24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

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I mean unless Yzerman is getting a long term player for the defense, you gotta upgrade it if youre heading into a potential playoff position. And would rather have Holl out there or someone like Martinez?

I'm skeptical that Martinez is actually an upgrade at this point in his career. Dude is getting caved.
 
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So imo, buying at the deadline would mean addressing one or more of these:

-partner for Seider
-middle 6 forward (hopefully pushing depth down to the third or fourth line)
-Holl replacement on the third pairing

I've listed them in order of what I feel is most to least important--though the injury news to Copp makes me think that might make a middle-sixer more pressing. I do think any buying should NOT be for a rental unless it's cheap. With that in mind, any suggestions or thoughts?
 
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The cap can be 110 million theres a 0% chance teams will be going after 6.5 mill 3rd pairing dman
It all depends on your defensive depth. For the Wings it won't really make sense as we have two guys that I think will be 25-30 min a night guys very soon. But I could see a 6.5 mil 3rd pair dman if you were doing more D by committee. If you were running more like a 20/20/20 setup and didn't really have any elite dmen, or if you had more of a 3rd pair offensive specialist I could see it creeping towards that.

Chia was solidly locking down the 3rd pair last year at 5.25 (6%)5. Ghost was 4.25 (5%). At 110 mil 6% would be 6.6 mil. I'm not paying a Holl that kind of money but a guy that could potentially move up the lineup if needed or an offensive specialist like a Ghost I could see creeping towards 6.5 at a 110 mil cap.
 
It all depends on your defensive depth. For the Wings it won't really make sense as we have two guys that I think will be 25-30 min a night guys very soon. But I could see a 6.5 mil 3rd pair dman if you were doing more D by committee. If you were running more like a 20/20/20 setup and didn't really have any elite dmen, or if you had more of a 3rd pair offensive specialist I could see it creeping towards that.

Chia was solidly locking down the 3rd pair last year at 5.25 (6%)5. Ghost was 4.25 (5%). At 110 mil 6% would be 6.6 mil. I'm not paying a Holl that kind of money but a guy that could potentially move up the lineup if needed or an offensive specialist like a Ghost I could see creeping towards 6.5 at a 110 mil cap.
The only way a 6.5 mill dman makes a teams 3rd pairing just like a 5 mill foward makes 4th line is because it was a failed signing and someone better came along and replaced him. No one will go out of there way to sign a 6 million player and then place him on the 3rd pair

Everyone here was trying to move chiarot at one point. And if cap goes up stars will take up more of the money, teams wont be able to afford 6 million dmen in free agency for 3rd pairing duties
 
I would trade for an extended Trent Frederic, if Copp is out especially, they could use the center depth and if he comes back you throw him on a wing come playoff time. The type of player the wings need
 
I would trade for an extended Trent Frederic, if Copp is out especially, they could use the center depth and if he comes back you throw him on a wing come playoff time. The type of player the wings need
I've thought of Frederic as well but to me that would mean using danielson in another big deal cause I see him more as a 3c (I'm sure others dont)

Id Try and be aggressive and dangle danielson in a package for Mason mctavish or cozens. Ducks seem like an underachieving team,bunch of kids but no huge stats for them.

Theyll be making moves sooner or later

Larkin
Cozens
Frederic

Or

Larkin
Mctavish
Frederic

I would personally just try and wait till the summer and get him in free agency and save the assets for another deal, I have someone else in mind for a trade from boston
 

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