24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

I for see in my crystal ball Brock Nelson becoming a red wing at something like 6 x 3 in the off season. I also see compher getting moved.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

I for see in my crystal ball Brock Nelson becoming a red wing at something like 6 x 3 in the off season. I also see compher getting moved.

With all the money about to open up, it's not crazy anymore for me to think a team would take Compher now.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Call me crazy, but I don’t want Pettersson. He seems like kind of a whiny baby. He can find that locker room at a perpetual loser that isn’t Detroit.

I asked this in the miller trade thread, but why the hell wasn’t the team captain involved in making those two idiots work it out? Is Hughes just that bad of a leader?

On initial comments it sure feels like Hughes was in the Miller camp on this one.

Given the Hughes boys are close with a lot of the Detroit guys in terms of offseason (in particular Larkin) this also gives me pause. My guess is our guys know this situation decently well and can talk to Stevie about it.

I know how good Pettersson is but it sure doesn’t look like he wants to be great… This has also been more evident in his post-season play and what he has done since the big contract.

I know Miller has had issues in other rooms. But it sounded like he rode Pettersson hard for not maximizing his talent or competing hard enough.

 

[raymond23]

Petterson looked small and weak last night. Some awesome plays but doesn’t feel like he fits the identity Stevie wants at all. Especially at that cap hit

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Petterson looked small and weak last night. Some awesome plays but doesn’t feel like he fits the identity Stevie wants at all. Especially at that cap hit

I wasn’t very impressed with him. If Vancouver kept Miller and traded Peterson for Tage Thompson or Byram + Cozens I’d say they were a better team, but I think they became notably worse. Miller may only have 4 or 5 good years left on his deal but Petey plays so uninspired so often I’d gamble on Miller. By the time you see real diminished returns he’s paid like every second liner in the league.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Marchenko for Columbus has a broken jaw and is out for the foreseeable future. Good for us but horrible for Columbus. Sad to see as he was really breaking out this year, tough break. They might be going to get a winger now at the deadline.

 

[ElProfessor]

Yzerman is a genius. Larkin, Seider and Raymond's salaries will all only account for about 5% of the total cap the last few yrs of their contracts.

We have enough cap space to sign Marner AND Rantanen this summer, honestly (w some small house-cleaning moves).

WE SHOULD DEFINITELY sign one of them. And a DMan to pair w Seider (Chychrun, Gavrikov).

Then sign hometown Kyle Connor next summer.

Red Wings Ready to Capitalize on Rising Salary Cap

The Detroit Red Wings received some encouraging news on Friday when the NHL and NHLPA jointly announced salary cap projections for the next three seasons.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[sepster]

The problem is that more than a few teams have the money to sign Marner or Rantanen now.

The Wings had a very favorable cap situation going into the offseason that is now somewhat negated by the cap projected to increase as much as it is. It allows more teams to get into the bidding war, which will inherently drive prices up.

While having Larkin, Seider, and Raymond locked in long-term at their current rates is great, those "price levels" are not going to hold going forward. Conceivably, in two years Edvinsson's agent is going to be asking for $10 mil AVV arguing that $10 mil in 2026 is really equivalent to $6 mil in 2024 when Seider was signed.

 

[norrisnick]

Veleno and Holl to Montreal for Savard.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I think we have a shot at connor in 2 years if he wants to come home... rantanen will want too much money and apparently there was concern from colorado he'd break down . Hes going to be 29 so we can assume his best years were spent in colorado

I'd give him 14-15 ×4 but I'm sure hed say no ... wait for connor and give him 7 years which unfortunately means he and raymond will expire same time but connor should also be towards the end of his career so the money wouldnt be too bad

Play danielson, mazur etc.. next year and connor will be the big get in 2026. We should make a trade for k'andre miller if drury is having doubts,hague or maybe the more realistic option of oleksiak who's signed for 1 more year

Wouldnt want to get into a bidding war for this crop of dmen free agents.

 

[Snuggs]

Yzerman is a genius. Larkin, Seider and Raymond's salaries will all only account for about 5% of the total cap the last few yrs of their contracts.

We have enough cap space to sign Marner AND Rantanen this summer, honestly (w some small house-cleaning moves).

WE SHOULD DEFINITELY sign one of them. And a DMan to pair w Seider (Chychrun, Gavrikov).

Then sign hometown Kyle Connor next summer.

Red Wings Ready to Capitalize on Rising Salary Cap

The Detroit Red Wings received some encouraging news on Friday when the NHL and NHLPA jointly announced salary cap projections for the next three seasons.

www.yardbarker.com

Gonna shock the world, wait and drop a godfather max-term offer to McDavid.

 

[SirloinUB]

It's not splashy but I want to add a package of Zetterlund and Ferraro.

Zetterlund scored 24 goals last year and on pace for 21 this year. He's a good forechecker so I think he would fit in well.
Ferraro blocks a lot of shots and has some good defensive metrics in hard minutes. He doesn't bring much offense but is a low key solid puck mover.

I think they are the kind of moves that are both low(ish) key and complimentary to the group we have. They would also be able to help out beyond this year. That said, it's probably not a cheap acquisition so I can appreciate if others would prefer to consolidate assets into a big swing for a single impactful player.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

It's not splashy but I want to add a package of Zetterlund and Ferarro.

Zetterlund scored 24 goals last year and on pace for 21 this year. He's a good forechecker so I think he would fit in well.
Ferarro blocks a lot of shots and has some good defensive metrics in hard minutes. He doesn't bring much offense but is a low key solid puck mover.

I think they are the kind of moves that are both low(ish) key and complimentary to the group we have. That said, probably not a cheap acquisition.

To be a bit of a wannabe insider. But Red Wings have been sniffing around Zetterlund before FWIW.

 

[sepster]

Every time I see SJS Ferraro pop up I get a little sad thinking about how the Wings had a Ferraro once....but that theirs sucked.

 

[SirloinUB]

Every time I see SJS Ferraro pop up I get a little sad thinking about how the Wings had a Ferraro once....but that theirs sucked.

Fun fact: Landon Ferraro is doing a decent amount of hockey analysis/media up here in Canada these days. He does a spot on the Oilers pregame show on one of the radio stations in Edmonton and is doing some work with a Vancouver station as well. Possibly others that I haven't heard.

He's pretty good. Sounds a lot like his father

I don't believe Mario is related to Landon/Ray.

 

[Euro Twins]

Maybe... he can just sit tight and change locker-rooms tomorrow.

So maybe Petterson was the cancer the whole time and not Miller? I'm confused.
Because they could have got a bag for Petterson and Miller costs less. They got depth for Miller. Seems like allvin really made a mess here

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

So maybe Petterson was the cancer the whole time and not Miller? I'm confused.
Because they could have got a bag for Petterson and Miller costs less. They got depth for Miller. Seems like allvin really made a mess here

Petterson was invisible last night. With his cap hit I don't even know if I would touch him given his reputation as well. The price needs to be a Detroit friendly deal or they can keep him

 

[Scottgaf1]

I dont want to see any more middling moves. It's time to go big or stand pat. Any moves this year should come with a long term deal for a superstar. The best move may be to do nothing at the deadline and go all in on a big time fa. Marner, Rantenen, etsc

 

[KJoe88]

lol all the more reason to stay away from EP40.

Let it die.

 

[Euro Twins]

Petterson was invisible last night. With his cap hit I don't even know if I would touch him given his reputation as well. The price needs to be a Detroit friendly deal or they can keep him

A lot of people want him (myself included, but only at $8m) for his point production for 2 out of 7 seasons. I'd take him in a heartbeat if they eat 3.6/year of his remaining cap, which they won't.

 

[SoupNazi]

Just caught up on last night's game while “working” today. I really don’t get the EP40 love. I just wasn’t impressed at all with him. Would he be an upgrade? Yes. At the rumored cost? No thanks.

 

[SirloinUB]

Just caught up on last night's game while “working” today. I really don’t get the EP40 love. I just wasn’t impressed at all with him. Would he be an upgrade? Yes. At the rumored cost? No thanks.

He’s a good player but hard to live up to 11.5 mil cap every game/season. On top of that we’d have to give up premium assets in a trade.

Hard to come out of those parameters with a positive outcome.

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

Big no on acquiring EP40. Soft, pouty, inconsistent and overpaid doesn't fit into what's being built at $8.5M (which his production would easily justify) let alone $11.6M. It's nice to think the Wings' situation, with established leadership and fellow Swedes in abundance, would be a great fit for him, but that's a costly gamble just to acquire him, then you have to pay him too. As for how the Canucks resolved the issue, they are still a young team and EP40 fits the bigger picture much better than Miller. They've removed one of his excuses so it's up to him now. If he puts up numbers, which he probably will, he'll still be a valuable trade asset in three years. Miller in his mid-30s by then not so much.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I'd take EP40 if they take Copp AND Holl in a deal. Copp Holl Veleno or Ras and a first.