24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

ugh back to byram i suppose .

since miller is definitely gone and pettersson is gotta be staying at this point, just leaves us to go back to cozens? I don't actually hate it but what would it cost to get byram and cozens with retention/third party paying some of salary?

With cap going up like crazy, I guess it wouldn't be absolutely crazy to not have any retention on cozens, but he's gotta play at a 7 mil aav pace lol.

I’d be super cautious of Byram. He’s already had 3 concussions just in the NHL.

I’d offer a 1st this year top 8 protected, or Wallinder and a 2nd. He’s not on the PP, and would likely be next to Seider.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Dude ... I dont know what the hell your talking about lmao

He was talking about trading for both cozens and byram ... not 4th line guys... was zero mention of Miller a d rantanen. Miller had a no trade clause and basically forced his way to New York so the return was never going to be big

I said I wouldnt do the deal for both cozens and byram cause I wouldnt want to think about what the cost would be. We wouldnt get both of those guys for rejects and picks

I used them as examples of trade value. The big superstars in the league rarely get traded for what fans think they’re going to be traded for. Miller didn’t force his way to NYC. He waived his NTC after the rangers proposed a trade. Rantanen didn’t need to be traded, especially with the cap rising now.

And you stated you’d trade a 1st, Kasper, Compher/Copp, AlJo and Rasmussen for Byram and Cozens.

Cozens is looking like an overpaid 50 point guy. Byram an often injured 30ish point guy.

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

People hoping for a significant acquisition before June/July are going to be disappointed IMO. Wings have upgraded their top six and top four internally and that's going to be the M.O for a while. How things look at the break and then just prior to the TDL will influence things, but at this point all we're probably looking at is cheap improvements to bottom six and 6/7D. A rental or short-term winger so that Tarasenko can sit in the team suite and Veleno doesn't play more than 4th line minutes is about as big a move as I expect. They're 12-4-1 under Todd. They keep this up or just stay close to that pace, they won't have to worry about a WC spot, they'll finish third or higher.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I used them as examples of trade value. The big superstars in the league rarely get traded for what fans think they’re going to be traded for. Miller didn’t force his way to NYC. He waived his NTC after the rangers proposed a trade. Rantanen didn’t need to be traded, especially with the cap rising now.

And you stated you’d trade a 1st, Kasper, Compher/Copp, AlJo and Rasmussen for Byram and Cozens.

Cozens is looking like an overpaid 50 point guy. Byram an often injured 30ish point guy.

You cant compare those . One had a full Ntc and yes determined his destination. It's been long said he wanted to go back and trocheck and he always wanted to play together. Was always going to be n.y and the other is a pending ufa

Did I say I would trade them? I've stated multiple times I wouldnt make the trade, I was pushing for kasper months prior to the draft and defending the guy when ppl said he had no offense

I'm saying If we trade for both buffalo will demand kasper who they apparently coveted,theyll likely want a dman back and itll probably be a johansson.There were rumors of both being dealt in a big deal for pettersson. Were not getting them both for rejects

Cozens is just miserable and waiting to die in buffalo ,he'll explode when hes moved... your sounding like that guy who thinks we need to move a 1st finnie and buium for justin Barton lmao

You think buffalo will send cozens and byram for a 1st wallinder berggren. Wont be as cheap as you think

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Some people seem to think tarasenko will still be here to ease buchelnikov when he comes(he wont)

Was looking at the russian players in the league and was I doubt hes available but what if we can make a play for romanov??? Still young so would be a big piece here longterm

Romanov seider
Edvinsson pellikka
Buium/wallinder Johansson

Could work???

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

I don't see any trades being made to bolster the blue line this deadline. Any player who fits the current time line has either already been sold, or is on a playoff team.

 

[DTR]

Prices are high

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Prices are high

I just seen that ...beyond bonkers granlund got a 1st lmao cap went up so some teams are going nuts

Waiting for san Jose to trade walman for a 1st + and fans here to go bananas

 

[Detroit Knights]

I would love a cozens move cause I think hes just waiting to explode. Buffalo is where you go to die lmao

I dont think we'd go for both that whole be a huge trade and it's already a tough sell I think to get a trade between division rivals

Wouldnt hate byram but I'd like a dman who's big and physical and can play 20+ a night. I'm less concerned with offense on the back end cause edvinsson will only get better and pellikka is coming

Seider gets a good partner he can be let loose a bit more. Cozens and byram together I think wed have no choice but to include kasper which I'm not a fan of

1st+ kasper+Johansson+compher+Rasmussen for cap purposes... one of lombardi/finnie/kiiskinen ? + Something else? Ya I dont want to think about it lol


He signed a 2 year deal and has 1 more year left in the khl

I'd eat 50% off tarasenko and move him. Hasn't been a good fit

Yeah that’s a lot for both of those guys. I don’t think it would cost that much but I see your point

 

[Euro Twins]

Severely offended

I don't remember this episode

 

[Detroit Knights]

I’d be super cautious of Byram. He’s already had 3 concussions just in the NHL.

I’d offer a 1st this year top 8 protected, or Wallinder and a 2nd. He’s not on the PP, and would likely be next to Seider.

Didn’t know about the concussions but his deal expires after this season, so I was mainly going for an active point producing d man that could be added to the second power play. I’d be looking at trading Gustafson for him.

No salary held, I was thinking more of Gustafson + 2nd or 3rd for byram

For cozens with no salary held, I was looking more of veleno, copp or compher, and if I truly believed it was just cuz he was on the savres where good players go to die, then I’d seriously think about berggren instead of a high draft pick