JackFr
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The Dallas model is 1. draft better than any other team in the league and 2. get a franchise player 3rd overall
Salary Cap: 24-25 Salary Thread Crosbicles Volume MXVI: End of season wrap up
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AuroraBorealis
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Our primary objective should be to load up on 1sts and 2nds right now. Teams give them away too easily these days.
The trade deadline was a ridiculous sellers market.
With cap space I would take on bad contracts in exchange for picks. I'd also sign or trade for low-risk, high-reward players, to try and exploit the next trade deadline.
These next 3+ years would serve as development time for the prospects, as well as time for bad contracts to expire. Then when it looks like our next core is almost ready, that's when you go hunting for quality, nhl-ready roster players to support them.
You use your (at this point) crazy draft capital/prospect pool as trade chips.
We have 4 1sts over the next 3 years. That's only 1 more than the NHL gives you by default. It's not enough.
Jacob
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Crosby at the WCs looks like he’s got another 100 point season in him still.
The crying that will happen next year when Sid makes us pick like 8th instead of 6th is going to be terrible
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If they somehow lottery their way to McKenna I can Sid playing until he's 45. Celebrini and MacKinnon seem to have given him a new lease on life. I think he needs a younger superstar to be competitive with everyday.
Big Friggin Dummy
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Didn't we hear that multiple teams inquired about Acciari at the TDL too?
He's a loser, but GMs will always be some of the dumbest f***in' people.He’s awful at killing penalties. I guess some GMs are dumb enough but anyone who even takes a basic look at his EV or 5 on 5 numbers is going to see pretty easily he’s not good defensively and adds nothing offensively.
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plaidchuck
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His production regularly dropped by 20% from RS to playoffs. Even when playing with Sidney Crosby and the 1PP he only was at 22 points in 43 games on two cup winning teams.
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I don't think "playoff performance" for a guy like Hornqvist is solely based on points.
It sure isn't defense.
This subforum has blinders on for a guy who often disappointed and was a very limited player aside from low in the offensive zone. Plus he regularly slowed down Crosby's line.
AuroraBorealis
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0.65 P/PG in the regular season as a Penguin
0.58 P/PG in the playoffs as a Penguin
That's an 11% difference
Are you aware that goal scoring goes down in the playoffs, and that the quality of your competition gets better?
Also 22 goals in 66 playoff games is a 27 goal pace per 82 games. That's perfectly respectable for what he was being paid.
Not to mention all the intangibles, with how much he lifted the spirits of his teammates every day. And he set a great example with work ethic.
Without Hornqvist those Cups don't even happen. Dude had 9 goals in 2016. Even in the 3peat attempt, he had 11 points in 10 games (5g, 6a).
His numbers in 2018 (11 points) look pretty good on the surface until you realize that both his linemates had 21 points.
You put a lot of players in place of Hornqvist and they still win 2 cups. He was a contributor, but not a major one and certainly not a difference maker
AuroraBorealis
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Not a difference maker? What the f*** are you talking about? We took that 3-1 series lead with the Caps outplaying us, off his OT goal in 2016. In 2017 game 7 vs the Caps that was him that deflated the Caps with that bardown backhand, to go up 2-0 when they were pressing.
Game 6 Nashville???
And if you think his leadership had no impact, you're completely out to lunch. That shit is critical in tough situations (like game 7 OT vs Ottawa).
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Yeah that front net presence was something that they barely only ever had with Malone. I don't get this mindset lately that if the team sucks, we downplay anything good in the past.
AuroraBorealis
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Yeah that's another element that doesn't show up on the scoreboard.
How many goals off his screens @bambamcam4ever ?
Big Friggin Dummy
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Hornqvist was washed and didn't really justify keeping around by the time he was dealt, but that dude was great in those B2Bs. The Neal-Hornqvist swap was really step one of shifting away from the complacency and rot of the Shero/Bylsma era.
And how many opportunities were lost because he was too slow on the forecheck and the other team moved the puck cleanly? His was effective in front of the net but I don't think there is any evidence that he had a greater overall offensive impact than his point production would suggest.
I don't think the Caps outplayed the Pens in 2016 at all, but yea I would say he was a difference maker for sure. He kind of sucked on the top line at times in 2016 though I have to say. Made up for it with clutch goals, but yea.
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