In the interview that Dubas did last week, he straight up said that offer sheets will be something they will look at. I think it will be a priority this summer to steal a young player from a cap strapped team
He would have been happy with a '26 1st IF he liked the prospect offered. He just didn't like Clarke. Moore is a solid roster player and a couple years younger than Rakell. I think he wanted a different prospect. One the Kings wouldn't offer.He didn't want picks, just NHL ready players. So, what I posted is pretty much what he was looking for.
Good roster player and 2 top prospects. Give or take depending on if more was added to the deal.
Problem is the cap is going up, which is why not trading Rakell was so stupid. Other teams will have more money to retain their players as a result.In the interview that Dubas did last week, he straight up said that offer sheets will be something they will look at. I think it will be a priority this summer to steal a young player from a cap strapped team
Rakell was gotten with a 2nd rounder because he was UFA (Edit) in a capped cap league, but like the Pens now, the Ducks were not letting him go cheap when he had term. The Pens tried for years to get him. Rakell is a very good player when he's with top players. Which is what he'll be with. Age is not a factor here, but his term and super low cap hit in a cap going up league is very attractive when you're talking a 25/30 goal scorer.He would have been happy with a '26 1st IF he liked the prospect offered. He just didn't like Clarke. Moore is a solid roster player and a couple years younger than Rakell. I think he wanted a different prospect. One the Kings wouldn't offer.
We're talking Rakell here! Not some world beater!
Just for context, we got Rakell for a 2hd rounder, he's soon to be 32 yrs old. We shoulda made that deal.
Hell if it were two 1sts that'd be great relative to what we gave up to get him. Again, THAT was a mistake! I think it's insane KD had that level of a ridiculous ask. So much so that no GM in their right mind would meet it.
He blocked a shot.... He tried to go late in the game and couldn't. Day to day.What’s going on with Tommy Novak, is he done for the season? Looks like he is not skating, bummer, I was looking forward to seeing what he could do
Agree to disagree that's a ridiculous ask for a player who's had a history of an up and down career. Two late 1sts for a soon to be 32 yr old would have been fantastic on a team going nowhere! And we were getting Moore who's a solid player in his own right. It was a bad decision. And they weren't necessarily gonna be that late in the draft. Not if it's LA. Besides, we could have had Clarke, Moore AND a '26 1st. You take that and run!Rakell was gotten with a 2nd rounder because he was UFA (Edit) in a capped cap league, but like the Pens now, the Ducks were not letting him go cheap when he had term. The Pens tried for years to get him. Rakell is a very good player when he's with top players. Which is what he'll be with. Age is not a factor here, but his term and super low cap hit in a cap going up league is very attractive when you're talking a 25/30 goal scorer.
Two very late firsts do not help this team more than already seasoned prospects.
The ask isn't so ridiculous. You want to pry Rakell away considering all his positives it's.....
Moore, and 2 of Clarke/Turcotte/Spence/Helenius
Agree to disagree that's a ridiculous ask for a player who's had a history of an up and down career. Two late 1sts for a soon to be 32 yr old would have been fantastic on a team going nowhere! And we were getting Moore who's a solid player in his own right. It was a bad decision. And they weren't necessarily gonna be that late in the draft. Not if it's LA. Besides, we could have had Clarke, Moore AND a '26 1st. You take that and run!
Also, if he weren't here it would have made it harder to go on this win streak, which hurts us in the lottery. Him helping us win now is destroying our ability to get a difference maker in the draft.
No, we don't have to trade Rakell, you're right. We can suck in perpetuity. We can finish just out of the playoffs year after year and not garner a single blue chipper as a result, fantastic!Talk to Blake when they get romped by the Oilers again, and all he did is Kuzmenko for a 3rd. The major point is the Pens don't have to trade him. They will be fine either way. They are essentially a 1-line team. They are making Crosby happy while they accrue assets and try to retool.
The plan is the plan.... No matter how much we all like/hate it.
Seravalli said it in his podcast. Another guys that reports on the Devils said "basically a 1st, a conditional 1st, and a prospect." Someone that reports on the Habs said the same as Seravalli.People are making shit up. What you've attributed to Yohe is the standard 1st ask for a star player and probably what Dubas asked for and they usually settle for 2 of the 3.
It's reasonable to expect one of mid 1st/young middle 6er/legit prospect, plus one of low 1st/B-prospect. If they wanna dump stuff our way they can pay for it.
Also, Rakell is still 31 and will be at the end of the regular season. Whoever trades for him would get his whole 32, 33 and 34 year old seasons at 5M or less. People just straight up lying about his age around here. And acting like this year is the aberration as if last year we didn't all watch him getting screwed around by Sully while averaging under 17 minutes a night. Same people I'm sure blame Malkin for not being able to produce like Sid does, as if he's not having to play with scrubs.
The problem is, there aren't many cap-strapped teams come this off-season. As I said before, I think the better route is to offer the Stars what the offer sheet price tag is.In the interview that Dubas did last week, he straight up said that offer sheets will be something they will look at. I think it will be a priority this summer to steal a young player from a cap strapped team
Another victim of playing the right wayHe blocked a shot.... He tried to go late in the game and couldn't. Day to day.
Often referred to as “the Boston guys” in hockey circles, FSG has had a controlling interest in the Penguins franchise for only a few years, and with an aging roster and new GM, it’s been a bumpy ride. An attempt to retool rather than rebuild has gone poorly, to the point Pittsburgh sits at the bottom of the standings this season, and a fan base that has been spoiled with so much success is already souring on the ownership group.
FSG scored especially poorly under “franchise vision,” where fans ranked them 24th. Organizational stability wasn’t much higher, at 21st.
Fan perspective: “We all miss Mario and are skeptical that these guys want to really win.”
“FSG is still new to hockey, and while it shows, it’s tough to really give them fair grades. They purchased the team entering a difficult period of the team’s cycle, so we’ll have to see how they come out of it.”
“They should have bought the Bruins instead.”
If you think Sullivan wants to turn us into 'zero-event defensive-first hockey', then why are we such a high-event team this season?I hate everything that the 90s Devils stand for, so I don't agree there. And Bobby Holik is a family friend, so don't think I haven't told him so!
Basically, I hate zero-event defensive-first hockey, which is what I see Sullivan turning us into. I mean, even with his recent comments about making sure young players learn to grind, I just hate that kind of hockey. It's boring. It's not even particularly effective!
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FSG ranked 24th out of 32 ownership groups in the NHL. Too high imo. Interestingly, 62% of fans surveyed said they had less confidence in ownership in 2025 as opposed to 2024, ranking 31st in the league.
You know damn well they will instead sign a bunch of mid Sully grinders. But hey, maybe Mr. Pivot can flip these guys for fourth rounders! Success!In the interview that Dubas did last week, he straight up said that offer sheets will be something they will look at. I think it will be a priority this summer to steal a young player from a cap strapped team
Problem is, there's no potential cornerstone pieces in the pipeline with the possible exception of Murashov.“An attempt to retool rather than rebuild has gone poorly“
Pretty much this. Even if Groats and Koivunen come up next year it will take time if they do become good players. I doubt very much either of those guys jump right in and make an impact.
This years first will be a year or two at least before he’s ready. Free agents like Marner are a pipe dream.
Not sure how Dubas is going to pull off this off. All I see is more losing in the foreseeable future.
These other teams have been teasing us for years now, the bastards.Other teams would hire Sullivan in a heartbeat
They haven'tI'm not even sure this team has attempted a retool, let alone rebuild yet. They gave one last home run swing with EK, it failed, and now they're just beginning the process of selling pieces with value--starting with Jake, who made this team's decision for them.
Literal insanity"Of course I hear it, I'm not stupid," said Sullivan, "I'm just incredibly stubborn. The more you say I'm dumb for doing something, the more I'm going to prove I'm right for doing it," he continued.