Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXVI: Sid is Still Goat

[Hockey4Lyfe]

This teams schedule the next couple weeks is rough. Not seeing many wins on their schedule this month. Which is good.

 

[PamBallam]

The dumbest thing the Penguins could do is not offload some of the miscellaneous guys in the bottom 6. What is the point of having a season this awful if they don’t in turn spend some time finding out how the young prospects perform in the NHL?

The last 15 games should be spent finding out if they can play with the big boys. Not watching retreads leading us to our worst record in 20 years.

Preach, dawg. We're a bottom 5 team in the league with all the old guys. Who cares if we (somehow) lose even more with the kids. Let them play

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't see how you're able to move Heinen, Hayes or Acciari at the deadline and I'm skeptical Lizotte would bring back anything to justify moving him. Teams tend to not want bottom-6 players with term that aren't performing well.

Beauvillier and Glass are probably the only depth forwards that would have interest, and Beauvillier is basically guaranteed to be traded. Beyond that, there's pretty much no one else the Penguins could move and you can't just stash them in the AHL due to AHL veteran rules.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

and you can't just stash them in the AHL due to AHL veteran rules.

Pretty sure you can send them to the AHL. The veteran rule, I think, just applies to players dressed for a game. Not a limit on the roster.

 

[ChaosAgent]

I have a feeling that we don't do much at the deadline. No Rakell move. No EK move. I'd love to be proven wrong but that's my gut feeling.

I think guys like Grzy and Beauvillier might get moved but that's about it. Spare parts players for 3rds and 4ths. It won't be very exciting.

My biggest fear right now with the Pens' upcoming moves isn't that they hold onto Rakell or EK too long though. My biggest fear is that Dubas tries to accelerate the rebuild by moving that Ranger's pick. And he brings back an asset who ends up being worse than the pick would have been.

I truly hope the Pens are patient with that pick and don't move it. It's too good of a potential asset to move.

Rakell will never have more value than right now. It would be a huge blunder not to move him.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Pretty sure you can send them to the AHL. The veteran rule, I think, just applies to players dressed for a game. Not a limit on the roster.

You’re correct but sending down a bunch of vets and calling up young guys will result in WBS probably not having enough guys to have a full lineup. They can’t just say replace Poulin and Ponomarev with Acciari and Hayes and be fine.

In the context of “get rid of these veteran bottom-6 guys and play young guys”, they can’t just waive the veterans and call up young guys. Even if they could hypothetically make it work, it’s not practical to do that.

 

[Pens x]

Rakell will never have more value than right now. It would be a huge blunder not to move him.

Blunder is Dubas’ middle name

 

[SEALBound]

The dumbest thing the Penguins could do is not offload some of the miscellaneous guys in the bottom 6. What is the point of having a season this awful if they don’t in turn spend some time finding out how the young prospects perform in the NHL?

The last 15 games should be spent finding out if they can play with the big boys. Not watching retreads leading us to our worst record in 20 years.

You're assuming there's even a market for them...

 

[Pancakes]

Rakell will never have more value than right now. It would be a huge blunder not to move him.

I'm not against it, I just don't think it happens. My gut says prepare to be disappointed.

 

[Malkinstheman]

I'm not against it, I just don't think it happens. My gut says prepare to be disappointed.

This place is gonna be fun when neither Rakell or EK get traded on Friday lol

 

[DearDiary]

Nothing is happening because the Pens are competing against teams that employ a full time GM, while the Pens employ a guy working part time as one

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I'm not against it, I just don't think it happens. My gut says prepare to be disappointed.

Nah, I think you're right. They'll trade him next TDL for like a 3rd or some bullshit when they could've had a 1st+ this week. Nobody loves waiting way too long to make a move like this team does.

Experience Penguins hockey™

 

[Ulf5]

Nothing is happening because the Pens are competing against teams that employ a full time GM, while the Pens employ a guy working part time as one

I don't know how you can say this with a straight face. 30 other GMs were sitting around in a drunken stupor at the gluttonous 4Nations gala. Kyle was sweating out the minute details of a very complicated blockbuster trade. Tough crowd.

 

[cygnus47]

The dumbest thing the Penguins could do is not offload some of the miscellaneous guys in the bottom 6. What is the point of having a season this awful if they don’t in turn spend some time finding out how the young prospects perform in the NHL?

The last 15 games should be spent finding out if they can play with the big boys. Not watching retreads leading us to our worst record in 20 years.

They're helping us suck and the next two years is a perfect time to suck, so they're kinda doing a good job in their suckage. Let the young guys cook in the AHL and have some success before they're put in the NHL SullyTM grind of 7 minutes every 3rd game on the 4th line.

If Sully decides he's too good for the NHL and we get a coach that can develop guys, sure bring em up and dump the bottom 6.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Rakell will never have more value than right now. It would be a huge blunder not to move him.

Also if we get out of this deal, we can use his remaining 15 mil on bad contracts for picks.
7M on Hayes netted a 2nd. 2.5M on Glass got a 3rd and 6th.
Hell, if you unload him without retention then you have 5M more you can flex at this deadline.

Whereas if you keep him you're essentially burning that cap for no gain. There's no excuse.
Giving Sid a proper winger during rebuild years is not a valid reason.
Their prospect pool is not good enough for luxuries like that.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Also if we get out of this deal, we can use his remaining 15 mil on bad contracts for picks.
7M on Hayes netted a 2nd. 2.5M on Glass got a 3rd and 6th.
Hell, if you unload him without retention then you have 5M more you can flex at this deadline.

Whereas if you keep him you're essentially burning that cap for no gain. There's no excuse.
Giving Sid a proper winger during rebuild years is not a valid reason.
Their prospect pool is not good enough for luxuries like that.

I don't know how much space we'll have for cap-dump players on the roster while also trying to bring some of the kids up to play. Also, with the cap going up as much as it will be in the coming seasons, there won't (or at least, shouldn't) be as many opportunities to take back players like that.