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I'm sure J.T. Miller who is a competitive guy who yells at his teammates for not competing will absolutely love coming to this shit ass team

I looked it up after Gurgs posted it, it's not true. They were in on him 2 years ago but not this year.

Wouldn't make any sense as a Dubas type of move at this point, considering what Miller would cost. Even with JR's loud mouth actively tanking his market:

 
Also I do find it hilarious that the Canucks tried hard to downplay the rumors of a rift between Pettersson and Miller and then Rutherford pops in from behind the curtain and says actually all of the rumors are 100 percent true and Miller's value has tanked so we might only get a 3c back for him.

Jr rules lol :laugh:
it is kind of refreshing isnt it?
 
it is kind of refreshing isnt it?
It's certainly different from the Ray Shero school of gming where you'd be hard pressed to get him to even admit that he uses a phone and talks to other gms

the Pens being linked to big names is weird anyhow. Even if you're the biggest Dubas hater on earth (and I know there are a few of you here applying for the position), there's 0 chance Dubas trades a 1st round pick any time soon, so wtf are we giving up for anyone of value, exactly?
All our pieces people would actually want are either off the table due to their youth or if they are a vet have nmc/ntc clauses. Like sure people would want Rakell but he has a limited nmc. Rust has a full on ntc until July.
 
the Pens being linked to big names is weird anyhow. Even if you're the biggest Dubas hater on earth (and I know there are a few of you here applying for the position), there's 0 chance Dubas trades a 1st round pick any time soon, so wtf are we giving up for anyone of value, exactly?
Dude come on, we are 1 or 2 players away from turning this around and being a legit contender man!! We cannot do this to Sid and Geno, we must trade all prospects and picks!! We owe it to them IC!!
 
I'm sure J.T. Miller who is a competitive guy who yells at his teammates for not competing will absolutely love coming to this shit ass team
*sits back and thinks about things this team actually NEEDS*

Well, he'd have plenty of opportunity here.
Also I do find it hilarious that the Canucks tried hard to downplay the rumors of a rift between Pettersson and Miller and then Rutherford pops in from behind the curtain and says actually all of the rumors are 100 percent true and Miller's value has tanked so we might only get a 3c back for him.

Jr rules lol :laugh:
I'd like to know what the rifts are. There are big ones and small ones. There's "Miller slept with EP's wife" and there's "he touches my hockey stick before the game".

You'd think Tocchet would be able to provide enough separation to where they can all do their own thing. Each have a top 6 line, each have a PP unit.

Thank god we didn't have to deal with that here between Sid and Geno, especially given what a bully Geno is :laugh:
 
I've been through a lot of bad years following this team, started in 84.... But I've never seen them so listless and boring and just, hopeless. If they lost in other down eras, at least it was shootouts or somewhat physical. This team is making Minnesota bland look f***ing psychedelic.
been with them from the biggening. and yep, i've seen worst. but with team, most of the time they don't even look like they are trying.
 
*sits back and thinks about things this team actually NEEDS*

Well, he'd have plenty of opportunity here.

I'd like to know what the rifts are. There are big ones and small ones. There's "Miller slept with EP's wife" and there's "he touches my hockey stick before the game".

You'd think Tocchet would be able to provide enough separation to where they can all do their own thing. Each have a top 6 line, each have a PP unit.

Thank god we didn't have to deal with that here between Sid and Geno, especially given what a bully Geno is :laugh:
I think here it worked because Sid, Phil, and Geno all mutually yelled at each other lol. It was very give-and-take. If Malkin yelled at Phil for f***ing up on the powerplay then Phil would just yell right back. They were all competitive guys but none of them would just sit there and take it.

Seems like maybe with Pettersson that him and Miller's personalities are different enough to be clashing.
 
I'd 100% pick up Saad. Geno's on LTIR and it's makes moving Raks or Bunts easier. Plus you might be able to flip him next summer.
Realistically though, what do you think we can get back for him at next year's deadline? You think we can get a 2nd for him? I'm thinking more 5th-6th rounder if we are even able to move him. Not sure i'd spend 4.5 on the cap for him.

Now if you call the blues and like Hayes they trade him to us and add a 2nd, I'd definitely consider that!
 
I don't think Saad is cooked. I just don't think he's as good as this board has been pretending for the better part of a decade.
This exactly.

No one would give a shit about him if he wasn't from Pittsburgh.

But if it meant pushing the Nietos out of the lineup, I'd claim him. But we all know Sully would probably scratch Beau or Tomasino first.
 


I'd actually claim him solely because it gives you an even easier justification to trading one of Bunting or Rakell. He's not having that bad of a season (7 goals and 16 points in 43 games) and had 26 goals last year.

He has this year and next year at $4.5 million, with a full NTC this year and a 12 team NTC next year. Seems like an obvious guy you can flip next deadline.

Or he could just dress Jesse…
 
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Realistically though, what do you think we can get back for him at next year's deadline? You think we can get a 2nd for him? I'm thinking more 5th-6th rounder if we are even able to move him. Not sure i'd spend 4.5 on the cap for him.

Now if you call the blues and like Hayes they trade him to us and add a 2nd, I'd definitely consider that!
Even if it's only a 5th next year I'd do it as it's a pretty low risk/high reward.

Pens have ~31M in space this summer so it won't kill them if he doesn't work and the chances he returns to a 20G/50P guy playing with Sid or Geno are decently high IMO.
 
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Saad had 26 goals just last year. I have no idea what's going on with him this year but my guess is "He old".
I watched him in St Louis last year on a business trip. He was having a much better season than this year, and he looked awful.

Obviously small sample size.
 
I think here it worked because Sid, Phil, and Geno all mutually yelled at each other lol. It was very give-and-take. If Malkin yelled at Phil for f***ing up on the powerplay then Phil would just yell right back. They were all competitive guys but none of them would just sit there and take it.

Seems like maybe with Pettersson that him and Miller's personalities are different enough to be clashing.

That seems to be the word. Age differences probably don't help either.

Also - without having chased this down to make sure - I've seen people say he had locker room issues in Tampa and New York too. Some guys are just abrasive. Tons of guys yell in the moment, a few never rein it back in properly after. Maybe that's Miller.

In any case, almost certainly none of this team's business.
 
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I think here it worked because Sid, Phil, and Geno all mutually yelled at each other lol. It was very give-and-take. If Malkin yelled at Phil for f***ing up on the powerplay then Phil would just yell right back. They were all competitive guys but none of them would just sit there and take it.

Seems like maybe with Pettersson that him and Miller's personalities are different enough to be clashing.
It was also said that Kunitz, Bonino, and Cullen were guys that were willing to speak up and out to anyone about things like effort. There were a lot of voices on those 16 and 17 cup winning teams.

Not that I think adding Miller changes anything but an added voice willing to rev guys up would be welcomed (though I am still on the tank for a top 5 pick train).
Or he could just dress Jesse…
He's too busy feuding with DK on Twitter.
 

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