Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XX

[Guelph Bruin]

They have to tank this the right way, compete until the deadline next year ...sell...bottom out and get another top 10 pick...save their money for better free agent than the pool this summer

 

[Fenian24]

I think the Bruins pursue Boeser, and I would rather they pursue Ehlers and his speed, or they even stand pat. Boeser is a legit 35-40 goal scorer on many teams, ones that have speed and playmaking centers. That obviously is not the Bruins.

Have to figure it will take a seven year deal to sign Boeser, you have Mittlestadt who is fast and a pass first center and you may wind up with Hagens or Misa who are fast playmakers. Seems a year or two of Boeser with Mittlestadt then moving him Hagens/Misa would meet your requirement for him.

I see him as a 30ish goal scorer, add that too Pasta and Geekie and you are building your top six quickly. A more offensive, less defensively aware DeBrusk.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Have to figure it will take a seven year deal to sign Boeser, you have Mittlestadt who is fast and a pass first center and you may wind up with Hagens or Misa who are fast playmakers. Seems a year or two of Boeser with Mittlestadt then moving him Hagens/Misa would meet your requirement for him.

I see him as a 30ish goal scorer, add that too Pasta and Geekie and you are building your top six quickly. A more offensive, less defensively aware DeBrusk.

I see the argument-except for Mittlestadt. However, Boeser,while being able to score from pretty much all areas, is rather one dimensional and would be lost for his first couple of years imo. Three or four bad years out of seven or eight is a lot of sunken money, and will cost you another better player down the line.
.... Then there is the whole tank for a stronger draft with a franchise player in it argument.

 

[Trashpass]

I think the Bruins pursue Boeser, and I would rather they pursue Ehlers and his speed, or they even stand pat. Boeser is a legit 35-40 goal scorer on many teams, ones that have speed and playmaking centers. That obviously is not the Bruins.

I really hope not. I wouldn't even consider Boeser, guy is Glen Murray so he's pretty useless without someone spoon feeding him chances. If people were frustrated with DeBrusk, Boeser would be a tier above that.

Ehlers I like, just concerned with his durability and lack of playoff success. Wouldn't love handing him a fat deal either but between the two it wouldn't be close, Ehlers easily

 

[RoccoF14]

I see the argument-except for Mittlestadt. However, Boeser,while being able to score from pretty much all areas, is rather one dimensional and would be lost for his first couple of years imo. Three or four bad years out of seven or eight is a lot of sunken money. .... Then there is the whole tank for a stronger draft with a franchise player in it argument.

I think a lot of it has to do with who our Head Coach is going to be moving forward and whether or not Boeser fits the style he wants to play.

I agree, I think he can score 30 in the right situation and that's something we need desperately, depending on whether or not the price is right.

 

[quietbruinfan]

I really hope not. I wouldn't even consider Boeser, guy is Glen Murray so he's pretty useless without someone spoon feeding him chances. If people were frustrated with DeBrusk, Boeser would be a tier above that.

Ehlers I like, just concerned with his durability and lack of playoff success. Wouldn't love handing him a fat deal either but between the two it wouldn't be close, Ehlers easily

Yeah.....Murray is a rather good comparison. Though I think Boeser is better close to the net.

 

[RoccoF14]

I really hope not. I wouldn't even consider Boeser, guy is Glen Murray so he's pretty useless without someone spoon feeding him chances. If people were frustrated with DeBrusk, Boeser would be a tier above that.

Ehlers I like, just concerned with his durability and lack of playoff success. Wouldn't love handing him a fat deal either but between the two it wouldn't be close, Ehlers easily

Fair points, but just about every UFA out there has some warts on him, no? Bottom line is we need guys who can put pucks in the net relatively consistently. That's a priority for me more than whether they play a 200ft game, or how they backcheck at the moment. We've got plenty of grinders, who can't hit water falling out of a boat....

Its all gonna come down to asking price...

 

[Trashpass]

Fair points, but just about every UFA out there has some warts on him, no? Bottom line is we need guys who can put pucks in the net relatively consistently. That's a priority for me more than whether they play a 200ft game, or how they backcheck at the moment.

Its all gonna come down to asking price...

Oh they do for sure. I'm not a big fan of this UFA class at all really, besides Marner(who again has his warts,although I think people exaggerate him being poor in the playoffs) I'd swing for the fences for Marner and if that didn't work I'd skip on the top name forwards altogether, sign some cheaper guys to fill out the roster and get Pionk for the D. See what big names are around in 2026.

 

[RoccoF14]

Yeah.....Murray is a rather good comparison. Though I think Boeser is better close to the net.

Murray is a good comparison but Boeser reminds me more of a skinnier version of Phil Kessel,

 

[pucksindeep92]

I think the Bruins pursue Boeser, and I would rather they pursue Ehlers and his speed, or they even stand pat. Boeser is a legit 35-40 goal scorer on many teams, ones that have speed and playmaking centers. That obviously is not the Bruins.

Scared you are right because he’s not going to be cheap. Unsure he would surpass 50 points on the not-Pasta line in Boston at the moment. Gotta think Sweeney is done with leftover Canucks, but ya never know. Boeser or Ehlers would be awesome in a top 6 lineup in 2-3 years if you get another forward that’s better than them by then, and you nail a quick developing top 6 center at this draft.

I wonder what Boeser/Ehlers get…
Points Per Game last 3 seasons:

Player​	2022–23​	2023–24​	2024–25​
Pavel Zacha	0.70	0.76	0.65
Nikolaj Ehlers	0.84	0.74	0.98
Brock Boeser	0.75	0.90	0.89

 

[RoccoF14]

Oh they do for sure. I'm not a big fan of this UFA class at all really, besides Marner(who again has his warts,although I think people exaggerate him being poor in the playoffs) I'd swing for the fences for Marner and if that didn't work I'd skip on the top name forwards altogether, sign some cheaper guys to fill out the roster and get Pionk for the D. See what big names are around in 2026.

I can see the argument for Marner, but I don't agree with it.

He's making what, $11mil now? Assuming you can sign him at a flat salary (big assumption I know....) would you rather dump $11mil/yr into him, or use that $11mil to grab 2 other forwards for $5.5?

Obviously depends who who the 2 players are, but I'd rather buy 2+ lottery tickets instead of one. We aren't 1 player away from contending right now.....

 

[Sheppy]

I can see the argument for Marner, but I don't agree with it.

He's making what, $11mil now? Assuming you can sign him at a flat salary (big assumption I know....) would you rather dump $11mil/yr into him, or use that $11mil to grab 2 guys for $5.5?

Obviously depends who who the 2 players are, but I'd rather buy 2+ lottery tickets instead of one. We aren't 1 player away from contending right now.....

Unfortunately anyone who they sign making $5.5M these days will be middle 6 players most likely.

 

[Dr Hook]

I can see the argument for Marner, but I don't agree with it.

He's making what? $11mil now? Assuming you can sign him at a flat salary (big assumption I know....) would you rather dump $11mil/yr into him, or use that $11mil to grab 2 guys for $5.5?

Obviously depends who who the 2 players are, but I'd rather buy 2+ lottery tickets instead of one. We aren't 1 player away from contending right now.....

Hmm, I don't think we are 2 5.5m players from contending either. I'd rather get Marner (but I don't think it will happen), at least make the playoffs next year which I think is realistic, and see what our lottery pick can bring the year after. As well as having another year of development for our young guys Bruins might be contending the season after next.

 

[RoccoF14]

Unfortunately anyone who they sign making $5.5M these days will be middle 6 players most likely.

Probably, but the logic still stands.

You wanna roll with Lauko, Letteri, Lysell and Koepke again next year as your middle 6 wingers?

 

[Sheppy]

Probably, but the logic still stands.

You wanna roll with Lauko, Letteri, Lysell and Koepke again next year as your middle 6 wingers?

Absolutely not.

 

[RoccoF14]

Absolutely not.

Horrifying, isn't it?

 

[BlackFrancis]

I can see the argument for Marner, but I don't agree with it.

He's making what, $11mil now? Assuming you can sign him at a flat salary (big assumption I know....) would you rather dump $11mil/yr into him, or use that $11mil to grab 2 other forwards for $5.5?

Obviously depends who who the 2 players are, but I'd rather buy 2+ lottery tickets instead of one. We aren't 1 player away from contending right now.....

The main positive is you know that Marner will earn his salary. There may be other FAs who earn their money and there may be bargains that have production far outstrip their dollars, but if you absolutely need production for the money you spend, Marner's really the only guy who's a guarantee.

Spending that much dough on a winger when you have no centers is a different kettle of fish.

 

[Trashpass]

I'm taking the best player every time. Same thing that happens in trades the team that gets the dollar usually ends up better than the team that gets the 4 quarters.

You aren't getting Marner for $11. I'd go $13.5 max. So say $13.5 you could get Marner or say Ehlers and idk Mangiapane or someone like that I'm taking Marner easily.

Marner is elite, you can pretty much guarantee he's going to be productive throughout his entire contract and he can make those around him better. Having arguably two of the best wingers in the game would also lessen the blow of not having an elite first line center.

 

[RoccoF14]

The main positive is you know that Marner will earn his salary. There may be other FAs who earn their money and there may be bargains that have production far outstrip their dollars, but if you absolutely need production for the money you spend, Marner's really the only guy who's a guarantee.

Spending that much dough on a winger when you have no centers is a different kettle of fish.

What do you think it would take to sign a guy like Marner, from an AAV standpoint?

What do you think it would take to sign Ehlers AND Bennett from an AAV standpoint? If you hate Bennett, you can swap in another player. Boeser maybe.

Ehlers and Bennett combined, make as much as Marner does now. I'm NOT saying that you could get both of those guys for the same price it would take to sign Marner. You wouldn't....But if you are gonna splash some cash this summer, which move do you make?

 

[RoccoF14]

I'm taking the best player every time. Same thing that happens in trades the team that gets the dollar usually ends up better than the team that gets the 4 quarters.

You aren't getting Marner for $11. I'd go $13.5 max. So say $13.5 you could get Marner or say Ehlers and idk Mangiapane or someone like that I'm taking Marner easily.

Marner is elite, you can pretty much guarantee he's going to be productive throughout his entire contract and he can make those around him better. Having arguably two of the best wingers in the game would also lessen the blow of not having an elite first line center.

Fair enough. We can disagree on that, but I definitely see your point.

 

[Trashpass]

Fair enough. We can disagree on that, but I definitely see your point.

This team needs talent plain and simple, top talent. So do you want another Pastrnak? Or two Pavel Zachas? The answer is easy for me

 

[BlackFrancis]

What do you think it would take to sign a guy like Marner, from an AAV standpoint?

What do you think it would take to sign Ehlers AND Bennett from an AAV standpoint? If you hate Bennett, you can swap in another player. Boeser maybe.

Ehlers and Bennett combined, make as much as Marner does now. I'm NOT saying that you could get both of those guys for the same price it would take to sign Marner. You wouldn't....But if you are gonna splash some cash this summer, which move do you make?

I think the biggest problem with Ehlers, Bennett and Boeser is the same - if you sign them, you need to play someone shitty to take their place when they hit the IR. Aside from that, in an average season, Boeser and Bennett will struggle to combine to outscore Marner.

Ehlers scares me off simply because the Winnipeg fans seem to alternate between feeling he's untouchable and wanting him gone. Well, that and the whole injury thing.

Marner's getting at least $13m. It'll be a big number.

 

[Hookslide]

I've been over this before. I'd like to see at least the top two lines able to ice a shooter/goal scorer that they can put out to keep the other team honest.

Pasta has shown he can play with just about anyone and help push them offensively. If Geekie can replicate just some of what he's doing on line 2 ( 25ish goals with a better team PP isn't out of the realm of conversation ) that's a win for the lineup, especially if Pasta gets a better player offensive player from it from free agency. They always have the option to go back to Geekie/Pasta if they so choose but I want to see them at least try to find another goal scorer for the health and balance of the top 2 lines.

All this is moot if the Bruins can't find a better top 4 option than Peeke/Joker though.

That doesn't work for me, they need to sign someone for the second line, that is how you build depth, not spread out your wealth, they should have signed a goal scoring wing the last two years.

 

[Hookslide]

I really hope not. I wouldn't even consider Boeser, guy is Glen Murray so he's pretty useless without someone spoon feeding him chances. If people were frustrated with DeBrusk, Boeser would be a tier above that.

Ehlers I like, just concerned with his durability and lack of playoff success. Wouldn't love handing him a fat deal either but between the two it wouldn't be close, Ehlers easily

What kind of contract would each be looking for and realistically sign?

 

[Trashpass]

I would think Boeser is around $7.5x6. Ehlers probably slightly more $8.5x7