Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVIII ( if trades occur use specific trade thread)

[DiggityDog]

Obviously just a guess, but Pitlick signing is adding bodies because bodies will be going out the door shortly.

Again could be completely wrong

 

[wintersej]

I really think that every team can get any player they want, if they are willing to go far enough.

I mean -- I'm under no illusion that the B's are a front runner in this, but Rantanen is in the top 5% of forwards in the league, still shy of 30 and the kind of guy you can build around.

What I truly know nothing about is how interested he would be in signing here long term, which is really the crux of the situation. If they were given the chance to check in with him to see if he'd sign here and was willing --- then I'd be willing to send a package around Zacha and Carlo, which would at least allow them to ice a legitimate lineup in the wide open east.

Beyond that we have no idea what others would give up, but you have to assume that there would only be about 7-9 teams that;

A. He'd want to play for long term
B. Are willing to give up enough to get him
C. Have the cap space to pay him

Remember Carolina, is in bad position and almost has to allow teams to speak with him to gauge interest, or they are at risk of greatly minimizing the return he could get.

The thing is that Carolina has plenty of cash, is good, and NC ain’t a bad place to live. Just seems like he wants to be able to shop around for where he is going to make his life the next 7 years or he would be signing with Carolina. Which is a totally reasonable thing to do! I just don’t think Boston can do a better sell job than Carolina the last month of the season. If he makes it to UFA, go make the “Chara” pitch. Bruins truck. Make him captain for all I care. But, giving away the limit assets is just too risky without assurances I don’t think you could get.

 

[ON3M4N]

I don't think he's McDavid or Barkov tier at C but he definitely would do better in that role on both ends of the ice then Zacha, Coyle or Poitras.

Can he handle the defensive responsibility that asked of centers in the Bruins system? From what I've read he's not terrible defensively, but he's not always engaged defensively

 

[The National]

Good Providence signing and emergency depth. As long as they don't go over vet heavy down there, this is the kind of player they need to have around the young guys.

They kinda already are vet heavy which drives me crazy, but they always are. He’s been useful down there tho. Not bad signing.

 

[sarge88]

The thing is that Carolina has plenty of cash, is good, and NC ain’t a bad place to live. Just seems like he wants to be able to shop around for where he is going to make his life the next 7 years or he would be signing with Carolina. Which is a totally reasonable thing to do! I just don’t think Boston can do a better sell job than Carolina the last month of the season. If he makes it to UFA, go make the “Chara” pitch. Bruins truck. Make him captain for all I care. But, giving away the limit assets is just too risky without assurances I don’t think you could get.

Makes sense.

I mean, for me to be fine with giving up anything more than Brazeau for him, I'd want a pretty firm understanding that he's staying around.

But also, I want the B's to be willing to take a shot if things go awry in Carolina.

 

[wintersej]

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He's already with Providence, does this have something to do with playoffs for them?

I think it’s a “if the team trades a bunch of forwards they need to be able to ice a roster in Boston” move.

 

[Dr Hook]

They kinda already are vet heavy which drives me crazy, but they always are. He’s been useful down there tho. Not bad signing.

I agree with the vet heavy observation, but that is what happens when you have a different owner than the big club who has to make his team profitable and that only happens if you are winning.

 

[The National]

I agree with the vet heavy observation, but that is what happens when you have a different owner than the big club who has to make his team profitable and that only happens if you are winning.

Yeah I get that it’s a business, but as someone who cares more about prospects developing and getting out of there than the team’s record it always drives me nuts.

10 vets on the roster while Harrison, Kuntar, Mast, Duran, Nelson etc etc take turns sitting so they can play.

Oh well, is what it is.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

Can he handle the defensive responsibility that asked of centers in the Bruins system? From what I've read he's not terrible defensively, but he's not always engaged defensively

I'm not sure over a full season. You also very well could be right that there is a reason he's always played at wing and it could be another situation like with our current wing/center hybrids but my thought process was at least he's a top line talent and not a supporting cast guy if plan A didn't go totally to plan.

 

[LouJersey]

I still feel that way - but not in all contexts. If we don't expect to be able to return to the playoffs next year, for example - why would we not extract maximum value from what will soon be a depreciating asset?

After three seasons of playoffs missed Pasta will be 31 and you will have been on to something and I expect you to bump your thoughts now.

If I were a betting man- which I'm not but if I were lol- I'd lay money on Sweeney believing they will be back in the playoffs next season with some roster tweaks.

Pitlick is a great start. Was hoping for someone of his ilk.

 

[Over the volcano]

Its happening its happening!!!

 

[DiggityDog]

Rantanen is a long shot, I think we all acknowledge that.

Let’s say he was willing to come here and would play center, is there really a better option available to them? I don’t really think the Bruins are in a position to be overly picky about the center position at this time.

Just my opinion. He’s going to be expensive so you would have to be damn sure it would work.

 

[tnt410]

Not Bruins related but ...

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Not Bruins related but ...

for a 2nd round pick and a prospect.

 

[Dr Hook]

Pitlick is a great start. Was hoping for someone of his ilk.

It's an AHL signing. It would almost have been better if they didn't make an announcement because this was probably coming at some point regardless of how the big club is doing. The guy has been one of the PBruins top players, is on an AHL-only deal right now and they'd like to keep him around for another season, thus the 2-way NHL contract.

Not Bruins related but ...

He is from Biddeford ME, so surprised the Bruins aren't in on it lol

 

[sarge88]

Not Bruins related but ...

Good pickup for them --- now Coyle for their 1st plus a prospect!

 

[DiggityDog]

It's an AHL signing. It would almost have been better if they didn't make an announcement because this was probably coming at some point regardless of how the big club is doing. The guy has been one of the PBruins top players, is on an AHL-only deal right now and they'd like to keep him around for another season, thus the 2-way NHL contract.



He is from Biddeford ME, so surprised the Bruins aren't in on it lol

Am I crazy or is Pitlick’s deal not just for the remainder of this season?

 

[PB37]

If Dumoulin is fetching a 2nd and a prospect, it's easily a 1st + for Carlo.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

The thing is that Carolina has plenty of cash, is good, and NC ain’t a bad place to live. Just seems like he wants to be able to shop around for where he is going to make his life the next 7 years or he would be signing with Carolina. Which is a totally reasonable thing to do! I just don’t think Boston can do a better sell job than Carolina the last month of the season. If he makes it to UFA, go make the “Chara” pitch. Bruins truck. Make him captain for all I care. But, giving away the limit assets is just too risky without assurances I don’t think you could get.

Carolina also plays a completely chaotic style that does not play to Rantanen's strengths whatsoever. They have a hard time keeping players down there.

 

[ON3M4N]

After three seasons of playoffs missed Pasta will be 31 and you will have been on to something and I expect you to bump your thoughts now.


Pitlick is a great start. Was hoping for someone of his ilk.

Pitlick's contract though is only for the rest of this season. Did I read it wrong? I thought it said it was for '24-'25

 

[The don godfather]

Donny get vrana you give up nothing let's go with the Czech connection.

 

[Boston Bandit]

Duck boats????

 

[NeelyDan]

After three seasons of playoffs missed Pasta will be 31 and you will have been on to something and I expect you to bump your thoughts now.


Pitlick is a great start. Was hoping for someone of his ilk.

This is precisely what I’m trying to say - the decision of whether to move pasta or not is not only about his current state value, but equally a function of the overall state of the roster - one guy can’t do it all, and if the supporting cast is not there, you are essentially wasting his value.

 

[Dr Hook]

Am I crazy or is Pitlick’s deal not just for the remainder of this season?

Shit you're right lol, 24-25. Okay I was wrong on that one! I can own it. I still say it's a depth move to get him under contract so they can sign him next season without another team swooping in and offering him a two way. This kicks the can down the road. Then again, maybe some are right that the guy will see some time up here after a clean out?

 

[NeelyDan]

I know we already debated about moving him or not, but just curious what is 'soon' to you? I don't think he's going to be depreciating for quite a bit still. Elite players that don't rely on explosive skating, such as Pasta, generally age pretty well.

Depreciating in the sense that, as @LouJersey points out, if you’re looking at a 3 year playoff absence (for example) then his depreciation is a function of the overall team vs him as an individual contributor