Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIX

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I’m all set with Brown. Zero reason to play another game. Bring up Farinacci and see what you have. I’m also all set with Beecher. He’s the one guy who didn’t seem any different since the deadline
Brown is a UFA to be so it will be over soon no doubt.Was reading about Carlo retainment by Bruins & it's 615 grand this year and next year.Reilly 1.33 off books after this season is a plus.
 
Ehlers- 8.1
Geekie - 4.9
Joki- 3.55
Lohrei- 3.3
Khus- 1
Minten- 817k
Farinacci -1
Beecher/Merk - 1
Wotherspoon - 1
= 2.3mil left.

*Bonus*
Work on a trade for the rights to Conor Zary using Peeke & Lysell. Use the now 5.8mil to sign Zary and Perbix. If not Zary, flip Peeke for pick, sign Hall at 3m.
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Sorry hits? Ullmark, Krug, Geekie and probably Vatrank are “hits” and the only guys I’d go back and resign.

The rest of those guys are either net neutral or scratch level (Koepke, Tufte, Jones, Brazeau, JVR etc).

Sure, he paid very little and got back little on most of those guys, so as signing, they’re “wins”, or fair value. There isn’t a hit among them aside from the few I listed up top.

And notably, the whiffs were prominent signings for bigger dollars, and they all sucked. Including Zadorov whom you somehow counted as a hit??? Why?

IMO DS gets more heat for his drafting than he deserves. His trades have been very good. But his UFA work on top half of the roster players is terrible, and that’s what we are lacking. I only hope he takes a summer off.

Halak was a hit. He was a good 1B his first year and an above average backup the rest of the time here.
 
I’d avoid big expensive contracts (Ehlers) this summer for wingers. I’d wait for Eichel or maybe a trade for a 1C.

In the meantime as suggested above take swings at reclamation projects (Geekie) for short term/ money. Count me in on Taylor Hall reunion. 2 years/ 3m per. He’s half the player he was in NJ but he’s elite at skating the puck through neutral ice and entering the o zone. Still a great passer. Can help fill the Marchand void.
 
I’d avoid big expensive contracts (Ehlers) this summer for wingers. I’d wait for Eichel or maybe a trade for a 1C.

In the meantime as suggested above take swings at reclamation projects (Geekie) for short term/ money. Count me in on Taylor Hall reunion. 2 years/ 3m per. He’s half the player he was in NJ but he’s elite at skating the puck through neutral ice and entering the o zone. Still a great passer. Can help fill the Marchand void.
This. Stay away from Ehlers. The Jets are playoff underarchievers every year and he is a big part of that. He is also rumored to be traded since forever. Top line center is the number one priority for the next two offseasons.

I also would be very careful of the contract given to Geekie. He rode the Pasta wave to get up his value but without him he is back to being a very good third liner. I wouldn't go above 4 million and or more than 3 years. In other news Poitras somehow became redundant with the arrival of Mittelstadt and Minten, Lindholm with an long term contract on the team and still the need of an number one center to add. Then you have the question mark if he can handle the physicality of the NHL. I think it could be wise to package him with a pick and fill the need on the top six wing.

Hall is rumored to sign an extension with Carolina and even if not, injuries derailed him too much.
 
Sorry hits? Ullmark, Krug, Geekie and probably Vatrank are “hits” and the only guys I’d go back and resign.

The rest of those guys are either net neutral or scratch level (Koepke, Tufte, Jones, Brazeau, JVR etc).

Sure, he paid very little and got back little on most of those guys, so as signing, they’re “wins”, or fair value. There isn’t a hit among them aside from the few I listed up top.

And notably, the whiffs were prominent signings for bigger dollars, and they all sucked. Including Zadorov whom you somehow counted as a hit??? Why?

IMO DS gets more heat for his drafting than he deserves. His trades have been very good. But his UFA work on top half of the roster players is terrible, and that’s what we are lacking. I only hope he takes a summer off.
How isn't Brazeau a hit? He was signed for free and turned into 2 decent assets and a late pick.
 

David Pastrnak is grounded in the here and now.

The Bruins' prolific scorer and longest tenured member has his sights set on making a playoff push, which continued Tuesday night with Boston’s 3-2 winover the reigning Stanley Cup champion Panthers at TD Garden.

“Right now, we have 17 games left and that’s my main focus to build on those two games [against Carolina and Tampa Bay],” said Pastrnak, who added to his team leads with his 33rd goal and 48th assist. “We played pretty good hockey last two and this has to be our standard for the rest of the season and see where it takes us.”

The events of last week took their toll on the roster, but it was a quick turnaround from a business side, as Pastrnak and his teammates had to play a game 24 hours after the trades of captain Brad Marchand and fellow veterans Brandon Carlo and Charlie Coyle. The turnaround is a little slower when it comes to the personal side.

“Obviously professionally, yes,” said Pastrnak, when asked if he’s been able to wrap his head around the changes. “On the levels of friendships and human nature, obviously it’s been tough and obviously lots of friends in the room and beautiful families that are on the move and so yeah, definitely professionally you have to flip the page and there is a group you kind of have to lead and so that’s my focus now. I thought the Tampa game was a great step one and watching practice excited about the group. There’s some really nice, good speed addition and some skills in the group, so that’s where my main focus is now. Obviously, when you are home it’s a little harder to know that you don’t have those guys in the room.”

With former captain Marchand in Florida and alternate captain Charlie McAvoy on the shelf with a shoulder ailment, Pastrnak will be the first player teammates look to to provide leadership.

While he won’t shy away from being the point person, Pastrnak, an alternate captain for the last two seasons, isn’t politicking to wear the ‘C.’

“I [haven’t thought] about it, honestly,” he said. “I got the ‘A,’ and I haven’t changed a bit. Obviously, the role changed a little bit. You lead more, but you’re just trying to stay being yourself.”

Pastrnak has benefitted from playing with former captains Zdeno Chara, Patrice Bergeron, and Marchand. All had their unique styles. All were very effective and respected.

“It’s an incredible job,” said Pastrnak. “I’ve been around them. They’re always different but similar at the end of the day and I had a pleasure to be with them every single day and work with them. They try to make you better as a player, as a person, and make you grow up fast. So, I’ve seen a lot of stuff I’ve learned from them, and I can’t thank them enough with what I’ve been through with them and obviously you’re going to have to try to carry that over to this group.”

Despite myriad changes around the organization over the years, Pastrnak has always remained upbeat and energetic.

“With all the experience and [all I have] learned from these guys, it’s amazing and I couldn’t be more thankful for the opportunities I had when I got here and the way I grew, but at the same time, there’s a reason I got to the position where I’m at,” he said. “I will never change, no matter if I play NHL or if I’m still the 10-year-old kid playing hockey. I don’t want to change because of the position I’m in, [because of] how much money I make or stuff like that. So just being myself is one of the important things in life for me.”
 
Also:

Poitras sent to Providence​

Kind of lost in the shuffle of bodies over the weekend was Matt Poitras’sassignment to Providence, where he was placed on the Baby Bs roster in order to be eligible for their playoff run.

In two stints with the varsity totaling 33 games, Poitras has a goal and 11 points. He’s had trouble consistently generating offense. That will be a point of emphasis at the AHL level.

“There’s just not a lot of room out there. The ice gets tighter, space becomes less available,” said Bruins coach Joe Sacco. “It’s just something that he’ll continue to work on in his game trying to find and create some space for himself out there. And he did some good things, but right now I think he’s a guy that needs to be playing too, so he’s not going to be here and not play.”
 
How isn't Brazeau a hit? He was signed for free and turned into 2 decent assets and a late pick.
This is an issue of semantics I think. I thought when he called those players “hits” he meant they were major contributors. Not a one of those signings have been a major contributor.

If we are defining hits as signing that netted out positive, I’d agree Brazeau is one. He didn’t do a lot for us and didn’t get back a lot for us, but we probably got more than we paid.

Ultimately, back to my original point, his major signings (term, dollar, roster slot) IMO have been brutal. Backes, Beleskey, Lindholm, Moore, and yes I’d add Zadorov, were all signed to play top 6F or thererabouts and top 4D. I think all were overpaid and overextended. And we had to actually pay teams to take a few of those guys, and seem likely to be paying yet again to have a team to take lindholm and maybe Zadorov at some point.

So I stick by my point - I hope Sweeney stays away from any major signings this summer. Nibble around the edges to fill a roster is fine by me.
 
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This is an issue of semantics I think. I thought when he called those players “hits” he meant they were major contributors. Not a one of those signings have been a major contributor.

If we are defining hits as signing that netted out positive, I’d agree Brazeau is one. He didn’t do a lot for us and didn’t get back a lot for us, but we probably got more than we paid.

Ultimately, back to my original point, his major signings (term, dollar, roster slot) IMO have been brutal. Backes, Beleskey, Lindholm, Moore, and yes I’d add Zadorov, were all signed to play top 6F or thererabouts and top 4D. I think all were overpaid and overextended. And we had to actually pay teams to take a few of those guys, and seem likely to be paying yet again to have a team to take lindholm and maybe Zadorov at some point.

So I stick by my point - I hope Sweeney stays away from any major signings this summer. Nibble around the edges to fill a roster is fine by me.
I don't disagree about your overall point - I generally like what Sweeney has done, but he always scares me when he has money going into Free Agenecy
 
The forward Roster we have right now is literally half Ahlrs/4th liners. What about the following 2026 signed forward group and a 104 estimated salary cap tells you guys don’t try to sign a “big contract winger” like Ehlers or Boeser? Your next best options ant cheaper prices are overpaying for aging vets. You want to wait and see if Eichel decides not to resign? Thats fine, but nothing will look attractive to star centers if you don’t have some potent wingers in your lineup after Pasta, some JAGs in the top 6, and a bottom 6 that may combine for 25 goals collectively all year and looks like it was built to tank. Also means another year of grinding Pasta down unnecessarily hard so that he is a cripple by the time an actual contending window roles around. Thats how you lose the room and momentum, by keeping talent away from the team. If you’re trading for a top 6 winger, that’s going to be a big contract too, but with cost to acquire. We have little assets without protections to trade as it is after Mittelstadt, Zacha, Poitras, picks which are helping fill some of those holes we already have, but not enough considering Patrick Brown, Lettieri, and Tufte were seen all too often this year amidst an impotent scoring group. We lost so many top line and top 6 players in the past 3 years, and you guys are scared to give a quality winger 7.5-8.5 mil on a rising cap system? I’m down to trade to improve quality at positions, but looks at how the rest of the lineup is constructed and be aware of how that looks to free agents, and the the stars you need to keep happy and healthy is all I’m saying.
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With Chara being a team consultant, I wonder if he's been down in the room with the boys after the trade deadline.
Wouldn't surprise me.

I have a feeling Chris Kelly has been doing a lot of the talking since Friday. He knows all about being on an underperforming team on top of turmoil. I remember how stunned he was to get traded let alone to Boston. Chia fleeced Ottawa in that deal btw.

Ottawa went full sell in 2011 and traded Mike Fisher and then Kells was traded to Boston. After that they dumped a few other guys on deadline day. They also were in nasty contract disputes with Spezza and Chris Phillips.
 
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I get Lysell has stunk in Prov but just try it. Also get the if it ain’t broke don’t fix it argument. Just would like to see this at some point to see what the kids have. Zero reason for guys like Letteri, Brown, and Beecher to be playing.
 
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I get Lysell has stunk in Prov but just try it. Also get the if it ain’t broke don’t fix it argument. Just would like to see this at some point to see what the kids have. Zero reason for guys like Letteri, Brown, and Beecher to be playing.

Lettieri is JAG but he is starting to earn his spot on the roster IMO. Skates hard, grinds, hits, gets his shot on the net, active all over the ice. I like what I've seen from him.
 
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I'm hoping some guys can find their footing so you can have the bottom 6 with majority of their players making ELC money or even around 1-1.5M per. Easier said than done, but it's just hopeful. Like there's zero, absolutely zero reason to re-sign Beecher for $2M per or something dumb like that. You can get those players on PTO's.

That way you can grab a few high end players for the top 6/9.
 
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Do you really think Vegas is gonna let Eichel hit free agency, though?

I'd be shocked if that happened. Not sure why Eichel would want to leave, either.....
Did you think Buffalo was going to let him go? Did we think Rantanen would be shipped out of Colorado? I’m only suggesting not spending JUST to spend on guys like Ehlers and Boeser, who in my opinion are both skilled but softish wingers. With Zacha & E.Lindholm here who play a similar type game, I’d prefer if they signed some players who are FAST, or physical.

IMO you can’t build a team by just signing the biggest name free agents. You need a good blend of skill. I’d like an Alex Tuch type on the wing in the top 6. I’d love a speedy center. Identify the type of player you want and go get one.
 
The forward Roster we have right now is literally half Ahlrs/4th liners. What about the following 2026 signed forward group and a 104 estimated salary cap tells you guys don’t try to sign a “big contract winger” like Ehlers or Boeser? Your next best options ant cheaper prices are overpaying for aging vets. You want to wait and see if Eichel decides not to resign? Thats fine, but nothing will look attractive to star centers if you don’t have some potent wingers in your lineup after Pasta, some JAGs in the top 6, and a bottom 6 that may combine for 25 goals collectively all year and looks like it was built to tank. Also means another year of grinding Pasta down unnecessarily hard so that he is a cripple by the time an actual contending window roles around. Thats how you lose the room and momentum, by keeping talent away from the team. If you’re trading for a top 6 winger, that’s going to be a big contract too, but with cost to acquire. We have little assets without protections to trade as it is after Mittelstadt, Zacha, Poitras, picks which are helping fill some of those holes we already have, but not enough considering Patrick Brown, Lettieri, and Tufte were seen all too often this year amidst an impotent scoring group. We lost so many top line and top 6 players in the past 3 years, and you guys are scared to give a quality winger 7.5-8.5 mil on a rising cap system? I’m down to trade to improve quality at positions, but looks at how the rest of the lineup is constructed and be aware of how that looks to free agents, and the the stars you need to keep happy and healthy is all I’m saying.
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I’d avoid Ehlers & Boeser completely. IF, Eichel has interest in coming back to Boston area it’d be great to have the cap space.

I’d be more inclined to take the recent draft picks acquired and attempt to trade them for some young RFA’s who maybe will price themselves off their current teams.
Gabe Vilardi (WPG)
Mason Mctavish (ANA)
Marco Rossi (MIN)
Jack Quinn (BUF)
Alex Holtz (VEG)
Could one of the above shake loose for a 1st + 2nd + prospect package?

I’d look to sign a Gavrikov as a UFA to skate in Carlo’s spot. Shutdown D who could pair well with Lohrei.

Hampus • McAvoy
Lohrei • Gavrikov
Zadarov • Jokiharju (or Peeke)
 
I’d avoid Ehlers & Boeser completely. IF, Eichel has interest in coming back to Boston area it’d be great to have the cap space.

I’d be more inclined to take the recent draft picks acquired and attempt to trade them for some young RFA’s who maybe will price themselves off their current teams.
Gabe Vilardi (WPG)
Mason Mctavish (ANA)
Marco Rossi (MIN)
Jack Quinn (BUF)
Alex Holtz (VEG)
Could one of the above shake loose for a 1st + 2nd + prospect package?

I’d look to sign a Gavrikov as a UFA to skate in Carlo’s spot. Shutdown D who could pair well with Lohrei.

Hampus • McAvoy
Lohrei • Gavrikov
Zadarov • Jokiharju (or Peeke)
Holtz doesn't fit on that list. Nowhere near worth that kind of package now. He's not done well at all.

Gavrikov would be at least $6M per year. Don't feel like that would be a good allocation of resources.
 
Holtz doesn't fit on that list. Nowhere near worth that kind of package now. He's not done well at all.

Gavrikov would be at least $6M per year. Don't feel like that would be a good allocation of resources.
I’d flip a pick for Holtz. Considering we’re playing a bunch of jags in the bottom 6 at the moment. Not a 1st or 2nd.

Let’s see how Jokiharju looks after another month here maybe he’s your top 4 solution. I’m hoping a lesson was learned with the Elias Lindholm signing. Doesn’t sound like it did with some here wanting Boeser. He would be a major mistake imo
 

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