Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIV

[sarge88]

I agree, but at the same time don't want to create more than one or two holes on the roster. Most general managers operate by moving what is replaceable in the short term-even in a rebuild.

Yeah….which is silly, IMO.

if you’re on the playoff bubble, or outside of it, and you move a guy or three who is in the top 10 on your roster, the plan should be clear.

There is enough positional flexibility, IMO that they can make several deals and have lineup legitimacy, as long as people understand some guys (Poitras, maybe Lysell and Merkulov) might be playing over their head for a bit to foster development and/or to figure out where and if they fit.

 

[Coach Parker]

NHL Network choose violence

 

[mjhfb]

A lot of that going around.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Yeah….which is silly, IMO.

if you’re on the playoff bubble, or outside of it, and you move a guy or three who is in the top 10 on your roster, the plan should be clear.

There is enough positional flexibility, IMO that they can make several deals and have lineup legitimacy, as long as people understand some guys (Poitras, maybe Lysell and Merkulov) might be playing over their head for a bit to foster development and/or to figure out where and if they fit.

I am not a prospect guy. Prospects are suspects to me until they can break in and produce for two years running.

Our three look particularly weak to me. I am on record as calling Poitras 4a. (He does look faster in this stint at least.) Merk is too slow for me. He has good vision, seems to work hard, but average nhl skater at best. Lysell, I don't know his deal, but I can see that his coach, and probably Sweeney and Neely et al do not like him. My guess is perimeter player with a bad attitude.

Edit: one prospect I do like is Ty Gallagher. He looks smooth, agile and intelligent from his Youtube clips. I do worry he is a mercenary since he did not finish at BU, but that also means he is good enough for two major college programs.

 

[LouJersey]

All I know is that if all the players on a team suck you can't blame the GM who picked all those players to be on the team. Those sucky players are failing him!

Don't you know the players have the power to trade themselves so they can maybe get better players? I would blame Lysell and Merkulov as well since they are players and are doing nothing to help this team.

 

[sarge88]

I am not a prospect guy. Prospects are suspects to me until they can break in and produce for two years running.

Our three look particularly weak to me. I am on record as calling Poitras 4a. (He does look faster in this stint at least.) Merk is too slow for me. He has good vision, seems to work hard, but average nhl skater at best. Lysell, I don't know his deal, but I can see that his coach, and probably Sweeney and Neely et al do not like him. My guess is perimeter player with a bad attitude.

I’m more interested in prospects from other teams in trade, over picks for a few reasons.

First, they are further along in their development, so their path is a bit more predictable.
(Provided those doing the evaluating know what they’re doing)

Second, while every GM hits and misses, the fact that they have been selected/vetted by other organizations can be encouraging. Not saying the Bruins don’t “hit” on occasion, but you’d think anyone they’d trade for, is someone they like….but also, the team that drafted them, clearly also liked them.

 

[EverettMike]

Don't you know the players have the power to trade themselves so they can maybe get better players? I would blame Lysell and Merkulov as well since they are players and are doing nothing to help this team.

It's not bad enough Lohrei can't play defense, he also can't find a top six winger on the market.

 

[LouJersey]

On the other hand I'm sure everyone here would still give Sweeney credit if he built a legit contender and the players blow it...oh wait

Everyone killed the players in 2023, and some of us were even told to go outside and touch grass it's not a big deal.

This is his tenth year, made it past round 2, once, in a season where they played the 6,7 an 8 seeds to get to the Cup.

He spent 26 million dollars this offseason on Swayman, Lindholm, Zadorov, Korpisalo, Jones, Tufte and Tyler Johnson,

I come from an era where the fanbase KILLED Harry Sinden for these kinds of results, what the hell is the allure with this guy?

 

[TCB]

Everyone killed the players in 2023, and some of us were even told to go outside and touch grass it's not a big deal.

This is his tenth year, made it past round 2, once, in a season where they played the 6,7 an 8 seeds to get to the Cup.

He spent 26 million dollars this offseason on Swayman, Lindholm, Zadorov, Korpisalo, Jones, Tufte and Tyler Johnson,

I come from an era where the fanbase KILLED Harry Sinden for these kinds of results, what the hell is the allure with this guy?

Your being to kind, with His overall body of work from what he started with, screams a change is needed imo. I could be way off, but I think its not to far away.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I'm gonna tread lightly on this one and hint at the other side:

Imagine you have a player who you think is elite. Who has played elite. Now imagine they never (I hate using absolutes) go to the coaches to get suggestions. Never stay late like Chara, never hit the gym. Never seem to come out and speak to the media after losses even though they wear a letter.

Now imagine you are a guy like Chara who expects you to stay late, work on the weaknesses, hit the gym, work on your game, get feedback. Imagine you are Chara putting up a PPG in the playoffs and the guy with more talent than you is clocking in and out quietly.

What do you do when Chara starts blasting him in the dressing room for his play? What if the only time you see him talking to the coaches is when Julien is the one to call him over and work on something.

After a loss and Chara is breaking sticks and screaming in the room, that guy is calmly undressing and getting ready to leave out the back door.

They are two entirely different personalities and the trick is to decide which one you want joining the Bruins dressing room. Which room is best for each?

One will scream at you until you match his intensity in the playoffs.
The other will be dead silent 24/7 and leave hockey at the rink as soon as the game ends.
One calls out teammates every time he sees a mistake, even when he makes them. Then he gets exhausted.
The other laughs it off and continues to try their best in their own quiet way.

It's just a different way of doing things. One thing for sure, the Chara guy puts up and rises when the playoff intensity is on but he has trouble turning it off in the regular season with his emotions.

This is a pretty biased take. You’re basically portraying JT Miller as some Mark Recchi type and Pettersson as some weak shrinking violet who doesn’t like hockey.

 

[GahdenRinkRat]

Not sure this is the correct thread for this question, apologies if it’s been answered before. Is there a pause/moratorium on NHL trades during the 4 Nations tournament ?

 

[Clode]

If the rumors are true, make a push for Boeser. He's still young enough to project as the team's second best goal scorer after Pasta on a long term contract. I'd be ok with the Bruins sending their 1st for a player like him.

Marchand has earned the right to choose what he wants to do - stay for another year, get traded for assets, or retire.

Trade Carlo, Coyle, Brazeau for younger/faster players/picks/cap space. Call up Lysell for the rest of the year.

I like Boeser but his injury history concerns me

 

[TCB]

Not sure this is the correct thread for this question, apologies if it’s been answered before. Is there a pause/moratorium on NHL trades during the 4 Nations tournament ?

NHL GMs See 4 Nations as ‘Soft’ Trade Deadline

Teams across the NHL have started preparing for the trade deadline which is set for March 7. While there are sure to be plenty of moves in the days leading up t

www.si.com

While the United States, Canada, Finland, and Sweden are battling in the first-ever 4 Nations Face-Off, the rest of the NHL will be paused. Trades and roster moves can still happen during the tournament, but teams would like to have the time completely off.

 

[GahdenRinkRat]

NHL GMs See 4 Nations as ‘Soft’ Trade Deadline

Teams across the NHL have started preparing for the trade deadline which is set for March 7. While there are sure to be plenty of moves in the days leading up t

www.si.com

While the United States, Canada, Finland, and Sweden are battling in the first-ever 4 Nations Face-Off, the rest of the NHL will be paused. Trades and roster moves can still happen during the tournament, but teams would like to have the time completely off.

Thanks, kind of strange wording “teams would like to have the time completely off.”

 

[dugg133]

I'm gonna tread lightly on this one and hint at the other side:

Imagine you have a player who you think is elite. Who has played elite. Now imagine they never (I hate using absolutes) go to the coaches to get suggestions. Never stay late like Chara, never hit the gym. Never seem to come out and speak to the media after losses even though they wear a letter.

Now imagine you are a guy like Chara who expects you to stay late, work on the weaknesses, hit the gym, work on your game, get feedback. Imagine you are Chara putting up a PPG in the playoffs and the guy with more talent than you is clocking in and out quietly.

What do you do when Chara starts blasting him in the dressing room for his play? What if the only time you see him talking to the coaches is when Julien is the one to call him over and work on something.

After a loss and Chara is breaking sticks and screaming in the room, that guy is calmly undressing and getting ready to leave out the back door.

They are two entirely different personalities and the trick is to decide which one you want joining the Bruins dressing room. Which room is best for each?

One will scream at you until you match his intensity in the playoffs.
The other will be dead silent 24/7 and leave hockey at the rink as soon as the game ends.
One calls out teammates every time he sees a mistake, even when he makes them. Then he gets exhausted.
The other laughs it off and continues to try their best in their own quiet way.

It's just a different way of doing things. One thing for sure, the Chara guy puts up and rises when the playoff intensity is on but he has trouble turning it off in the regular season with his emotions.

Let’s just be honest and say that the reason some of us want Miller is that he’s the only real avenue this team has towards getting a 100 point center to put with Pasta. It’s a real enough reason to make a trade worth consideration, we really don’t need to write fan fiction comparing Miller to f***ing Chara lol.

 

[TCB]

Thanks, kind of strange wording “teams would like to have the time completely off.”

Yea I mean im sure they would but I think its nothing more than speculation on their part. I just dont see an NHL GM taking time off during the season even if there is a 2 week break.

“Some GMs are looking at the start of the 4 Nations,” Dreger said. “And saying, ‘Hey, I’d like to get my business done before that tournament gets underway.’”

Quite a few players across the league have been spoken about on their respective team’s trade blocks, and with the tournament under a month away, there could be a flurry of moves well before the actual hard trade deadline.

Not every general manager is taking the same viewpoint as others, and will likely work through the tournament, but others could try and get their work in early before two weeks off.

“Depends on the GM that you talk to,” Dreger said. “Some look at the 4 Nations as a bit of a bump. Let’s get going, let’s get some trade activity before the 4 Nations gets underway.”

Who knows maybe Sweeney and Billy G can get together and get something done.

 

[Coach Parker]

Let’s just be honest and say that the reason some of us want Miller is that he’s the only real avenue this team has towards getting a 100 point center to put with Pasta. It’s a real enough reason to make a trade worth consideration, we really don’t need to write fan fiction comparing Miller to f***ing Chara lol.

I get what your saying and don't want it to be considered fan fiction. I just want to try and make it clear that what a lot of people consider harsh and demanding others consider a huge leadership strength and asset.

Winning paints its own picture and frames the narrative.

 

[Coach Parker]

This is a pretty biased take. You’re basically portraying JT Miller as some Mark Recchi type and Pettersson as some weak shrinking violet who doesn’t like hockey.

No I'm not Marchy. I was pretty clear about that. Take the one personality to an extreme and then take the other. Bruins examples to extremes. Not hard to figure out really.

I even went on to point out the positives of each one in Boston, but maybe you didn't see that.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

This is our one chance to get rid of E Lindholm I do what we gotta for either. Would love Garland back in a multiple player deal. Coyle E Lindholm and assets for Peterson or Miller and Garland please. Would drive Frederic to Van to seal that. Carlo can go as well.

 

[Coach Parker]

I found this is a great example of what it is really like here daily and has been since he signed:

Halford and Brough in the Morning

Boasting in-depth sports knowledge, entertaining on-air chemistry and a rolodex of sports’ biggest names, Halford & Brough in the Morning is ready to jumpstart the morning drive across Vancouver.

www.sportsnet.ca

Start at the 17:15 mark til the 24:00 mark.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

No I'm not Marchy. I was pretty clear about that. Take the one personality to an extreme and then take the other. Bruins examples to extremes. Not hard to figure out really.

I even went on to point out the positives of each one in Boston, but maybe you didn't see that.

Extreme JT Miller is not Chara. Its not even close to the right archetype. You like Miller I get it, but it’s a strawman too far.

But your portrayal of EP is probably even more biased.

 

[Coach Parker]

Extreme JT Miller is not Chara. Its not even close to the right archetype. You like Miller I get it, but it’s a strawman too far.

But your portrayal of EP is probably even more biased.

No, it isn't. Give the audio a listen.

Also, I know you like to come here and crap on peoples' opinions and call them baised but there is no need here today. Give the audio a listen as it summarizes the viewpoint of many here that you aren't privy to or part of here in Vancouver.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I found this is a great example of what it is really like here daily and has been since he signed:

Halford and Brough in the Morning

Boasting in-depth sports knowledge, entertaining on-air chemistry and a rolodex of sports’ biggest names, Halford & Brough in the Morning is ready to jumpstart the morning drive across Vancouver.

www.sportsnet.ca

Start at the 17:15 mark til the 24:00 mark.

Legit. That’s illuminating

 

[Babajingo]

Everyone killed the players in 2023, and some of us were even told to go outside and touch grass it's not a big deal.

This is his tenth year, made it past round 2, once, in a season where they played the 6,7 an 8 seeds to get to the Cup.

He spent 26 million dollars this offseason on Swayman, Lindholm, Zadorov, Korpisalo, Jones, Tufte and Tyler Johnson,

I come from an era where the fanbase KILLED Harry Sinden for these kinds of results, what the hell is the allure with this guy?

He wears glasses when he wants to look smart. People fall for it. Its an old media trick.

 

[Coach Parker]

Legit. That’s illuminating

It's what has been said for almost a year now behind the scenes. As the Miller stuff comes out, so does he Pettersson and why they just don't get along.