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Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIII

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Coach Parker said:
I don't know how the team on the opposite side of the continent who you only play twice a year has TWO 1st line C available and Boston hasn't already gotten one of them. Either one of them will have so much to prove to the NHL after all of this nonsense that the team acquiring them should be salivating at the idea of a 1st line C becoming available at this low cost.

I think the only thing that I may enjoy more than Miller and Marchand out there together would be Pettersson and Pastrnak out there. Pick your player and build the next 4 years out around them, that D and Swayman in net.
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Only way I make any trade for them 2 underperforming malcontents is if Lindholm is included in the package.
 
KrugAvoy said:
Feels like Swayman is going to be the next Toivonen or Raycroft as opposed to Tuukka caliber . Guy was good but now is insanely frustrating despite the potential being there
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First couple weren't his fault and then he fell apart.

I'll take the recent performance and I don't really care how a goalie plays when a game is out of reach.
 
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bp14 said:
Isn’t the issue that the Bruins are so talented-starved that so many other teams could make better offers?

Or additionally, the asssets it would cost just to bring in one guy would be more than a team that is multiple players away should reasonably give?

I get your point for sure, but the Bruins are not a team that should be going all in on any one player. They’re a middle of the league team at best. They need a more significant overhaul IMO.
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First issue is Miller has a full NMC and gets to decide where he would play. That point just keeps getting skipped over here.

Second issue is if the Canucks do put Pettersson on the block, lots of teams would outbid the Bruins for him.

Easier to just throw your hands up and blame Sweeney though.
 
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MarchysNoseKnows said:
First issue is Miller has a full NMC and gets to decide where he would play. That point just keeps getting skipped over here.

Second issue is if the Canucks do put Pettersson on the block, lots of teams would outbid the Bruins for him.

Easier to just throw your hands up and blame Sweeney though.
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Who would you blame for this mediocre cast of characters? One coach has already taken the fall.
 
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Helsinki city boy said:
If it looks like Rantanen wont sign before TDL with Whalers, Boston should talk Swayman/McAvoy swap. Both players would be right on spot for Whalers.

Boston gets Rantanen and Whalers retain 50%.
Hartford gets Swayman/McAvoy and 2026 second pick.
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So Colorado trades Rantanen because he won't sign. In your scenario Carolina trades Rantanen because he won't sign.

Why would Boston trade for him? Unless you just want to get rid of Sway and McAvoy for nothing.

Might as well wait til July and try to be the highest bidder, because in this scenario it seems clear he is not interested in signing before UFA.
 
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MarchysNoseKnows said:
First issue is Miller has a full NMC and gets to decide where he would play. That point just keeps getting skipped over here.

Second issue is if the Canucks do put Pettersson on the block, lots of teams would outbid the Bruins for him.

Easier to just throw your hands up and blame Sweeney though.
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Yea I don’t blame Sweeney one bit for not going after either of those guys. In his shoes I wouldn’t even try, and as you point out, he doesn’t have the assets anyway.

What he needs to focus on is resisting the urge to throw away his picks on wishcasting for this years team. Just do that, and hopefully sell off some parts. Forget about Vancouver.
 
LouJersey said:
Who would you blame for this mediocre cast of characters? One coach has already taken the fall.
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The players?

bp14 said:
Yea I don’t blame Sweeney one bit for not going after either of those guys. In his shoes I wouldn’t even try, and as you point out, he doesn’t have the assets anyway.

What he needs to focus on is resisting the urge to throw away his picks on wishcasting for this years team. Just do that, and hopefully sell off some parts. Forget about Vancouver.
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The point is that he could very well be trying to trade for those guys. It's not up to him, and not even up to the Canucks only in Miller's case.
 
I know Elias Lindholm has been atrocious all year however, he is being paid almost 8 million per year. Play him with Marchand and Pastrnak. They tried this combo for a few games and didn't work but at this point what do you have to lose? Maybe it gets him going.

Can't have him playing on line 3 with plumbers.
 
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Bruins should start cleaning house and moving guys out. The east is tight and there's a lot of teams who'll be looking to add to push them over the Hump. Bruins should get the jump on everyone else and start auctioning off anyone not named Pastrnak, Swayman or McAvoy
 
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bruins4thecup65 said:
Boeser on the trading block in Vancouver, can we offer them Lindholm straight up?

I’m trading EL at the deadline to a contender for whatever I can get
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of course they can. two things to consider though. 1. he has a complete no move contract iirc. 2. good luck trying to attract other free agents to the team if you treat a new signing like that. especially if the player has a family. a terrible way to do business imo.
 
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kdog82 said:
I know Elias Lindholm has been atrocious all year however, he is being paid almost 8 million per year. Play him with Marchand and Pastrnak. They tried this combo for a few games and didn't work but at this point what do you have to lose? Maybe it gets him going.

Can't have him playing on line 3 with plumbers.
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But seriously, why not? He’s not proven the ability to drive a line in the top 6 here. If Zacha is a better option with Pasta and it makes sense to give Poitras some time to develop for our future, screw Lindholm. Let him play wherever makes sense for the team.

At this point it seems obvious he’ll be yet another marquee signing that Sweeney ends up paying some other team to take, but I see no reason to give him preference over a developing young talent or Zacha. He’s not a better option.
 
JoeIsAStud said:
So Colorado trades Rantanen because he won't sign. In your scenario Carolina trades Rantanen because he won't sign.

Why would Boston trade for him? Unless you just want to get rid of Sway and McAvoy for nothing.

Might as well wait til July and try to be the highest bidder, because in this scenario it seems clear he is not interested in signing before UFA.
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Obviously it should be trade and sign.
Sure Rantanen will try to sign still within this season to get better terms.
 
All last night does is make it more likely that Sweeney trades a 1st or multiple firsts to sneak into the playoffs. Ownership will not accept missing the playoffs so if they need to deal a 1st or 2 1sts and some contracts for Miller, that's what will happen.
 
bp14 said:
Isn’t the issue that the Bruins are so talented-starved that so many other teams could make better offers?

Or additionally, the asssets it would cost just to bring in one guy would be more than a team that is multiple players away should reasonably give?

I get your point for sure, but the Bruins are not a team that should be going all in on any one player. They’re a middle of the league team at best. They need a more significant overhaul IMO.
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They won't do an overhaul because that would mean missing the playoffs for a year. We both know thats never going to happen while anyone with the last name Jacobs owns this team. So they'll probably overreact and sell the draft to get a really good player and keep the train rolling. Maybe get to the 2nd round in a year or two and cap out at that. Really it doesn't matter as long as they make the playoffs. Right now the Bruins have the longest active playoff streak. They aren't giving that up.
 
LSCII said:
So the players are responsible for putting this flawed roster together? Weird, I never knew that's how it worked...:biglaugh:
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Well, I think the players are responsible for coming into camp out of shape and not ready to play. They're responsible for mailing it in too often, like last night. From one season to the next, huge dropoffs for Marchand, Coyle, Carlo, Frederic, McAvoy aren't the GM's fault.

And I'm someone who absolutely did not want Lindholm or Zadorov to be signed. Unlike about 80% of this board.
 
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