Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIII

[BergyWho37]

I think trading McAvoy would be a huge mistake.

Exactly. I don’t think some fans realize how hard it is to get a right handed defender with his tool box.
He is obviously no PP wizard but contributes offensively and basically is a lock for 50pts each year and without the puck he’s usually a rock with the odd miss coverage like every other defender in this league, his only real issue is trying to do to much occasionally and that’s mostly cause he’s wants to be a game changer whether that being trying hold the puck in or skating it down low to force pressure on the other team.
Honestly I don’t see why he receives so much hate other than I guess his salary which it isn’t that bad either specially considering the cap keeps going up.

 

[DiggityDog]

If some team offers a 1st for Geekie you take it and run.

Or you could keep the 26 year old RFA winger who has really good chemistry with your superstar right wing.

 

[Dr Hook]

Don't know that I agree with all that, but my point still stands. He has to score to be worth $7m.

There isn't a 40 point forward in the NHL worth $7m a year.

The Bruins paid David Backes $6m when the dollar wasn't worth as much. Apropos to nothing perhaps, but it does happen that teams will pay too much for the intangibles. I hope we don't go down that road again. Cozens of course is a different player, much younger, and I'd expect Buffalo to ask a mint for him.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Big Bad Zad is kinda all over the place (like many of my posts) but overall he’s good

Definitely needs structure/ early on he was going for skates all over the defensive zone

Zadorov & Lohrei although different types need a bit of structure but allowed to do their thing but be aware of surroundings, score, opposition on ice etc - just be responsible

I want them to be who they are but they got to be disciplined or it can go bad fast

Zadorov is +11 and Lohrei (easier mins and match-ups) is -9. Not comparable right now, IMO.

 

[Dr Hook]

No ,but they need to keep him away from the powerplay .

I am curious to see what the Bruins do when he comes back. Lohrei is doing at least as well as Mac ever did on the powerplay, and maybe a little better. My guess is the Bruins stick Charlie back on the #1 unit though. They are damned sure going to try to get every bit of that $9.5m AAV out of him

 

[DominicT]

Wonder if Dom and others agree with this:

From Geekie, Freddy, Brazeau, Koepke, Wotherspoon, Beecher

At least two won't be Bruins next year. And plenty of cases where it's 3.

What Should the Boston Bruins Do Moving Forward?

Boston Bruins President Cam Neely. Photo by Steven Senne/AP With the 4 Nations Tournament and the NHL trade deadline approaching, the Boston Bruins are in a challenging position. They hold a record…

dom.hockey

 

[Dr Hook]

What Should the Boston Bruins Do Moving Forward?

Boston Bruins President Cam Neely. Photo by Steven Senne/AP With the 4 Nations Tournament and the NHL trade deadline approaching, the Boston Bruins are in a challenging position. They hold a record…

dom.hockey

Nicely written, Dom. I am in agreement on the retool as well. It's time for the Bruins to look to the future rather than just the next playoffs.

 

[TCB]

Nicely written, Dom. I am in agreement on the retool as well. It's time for the Bruins to look to the future rather than just the next playoffs.

I am as well, but I’d have no problem moving Marchand as part of it, for the right price.

 

[TCB]

I’d love to grab one of those Buffalo wingers ~ Kulich, Quinn,Benson, or Rosen.

All look like they can be top 6 guys eventually

Peterka & Tuch can’t see moving

I would trade my first for any of the four up top but 0.0 happens

Chicago another team loaded with prospects

I would trade my first to them for Oliver Moore

Rosen was a guy, I really liked in the WJ and was hoping he fell to Boston in the draft.

Sabres have some real good talent, it’s too bad their so dysfunctional.

 

[the negotiator]

What Should the Boston Bruins Do Moving Forward?

Boston Bruins President Cam Neely. Photo by Steven Senne/AP With the 4 Nations Tournament and the NHL trade deadline approaching, the Boston Bruins are in a challenging position. They hold a record…

dom.hockey

Great article that balances short term and long term objectives in an objective way.

Whether DS is willing to make the tough decisions that you list is a major question to me...recommendations area blueprint for a quick re-tool without disturbing the foundational pieces already in place.

I like that you divided the moves into before the trade deadline and during the off season. A comprehensive re-tool ( no- that is not an oxymoron) means at least 5-6 players on the current roster are not here for puck drop in October and those 5-6 are not just re-stocking fourth liners and depth D players

 

[quietbruinfan]

What Should the Boston Bruins Do Moving Forward?

Boston Bruins President Cam Neely. Photo by Steven Senne/AP With the 4 Nations Tournament and the NHL trade deadline approaching, the Boston Bruins are in a challenging position. They hold a record…

dom.hockey

We can only hope. Geekie is a keeper if not traded...I might keep Wotherspoon but that is absolutely it. Bunch of 4 A junk.

 

[Dizzay]

Your third line guys are all right shots who have never played left wing in their careers.

Sorry.....more so was calling out the top 9 vs what the right combinations were/are. Not sure how that shakes out, move Poitras to 2C, Miller to 1C, Zacha to 3LW?

 

[CellyHard]

I have a good one for everyone

Geekie has obviously been a great complimentary piece to the 1st line slashing 15-11-26 in 46 GP. I saw someone say that we should be looking for more Geekies, not less and I totally agree.

What if I said there was another forward out there with more points (14-14-28) in less games played, with a minute less of TOI, and more hits than Geekie? He can play center too, and is amongst his teams best in +/-, producing almost exclusively at even strength.

Last I saw, his value was around a mid round pick and definitely on the trade block. I feel like we'd all be talking about how we could use a goalscorer like that for cheap, right?

Anyone want to take a stab at it?

 

[DominicT]

We can only hope. Geekie is a keeper if not traded...I might keep Wotherspoon but that is absolutely it. Bunch of 4 A junk.

I agree on Wotherspoon.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

If some team offers a 1st for Geekie you take it and run.

How can you pass on the chance to trade a guy who is skating on your first line for a player who there is maybe 1 30% chance will be a more valuable player in 4 or 5 years. But at least the extra first will help you be graded higher in prospect rankings for a couple of years

 

[TCB]

If some team offers a 1st for Geekie you take it and run.

And draft what another Senyshyn or Beecher ?

 

[PB37]

fans are out to lunch with the calls for trading McAvoy.

Mcavoy and Lysell for Kreider and Schneider. Anyone?

That's pretty gross. Change McAvoy to Carlo and it's much closer.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Would Mcavoy waive to go to Anaheim or Columbus. Both teams have lots of young centers.

Anaheim- Carlsson, zegras, McTavish.

Columbus- fantelli, sillinger, Johnson, and cal Lindstrom.

Start a package around 1 of the centers and a young defenseman.

Anaheim will happily give you Zegras for McAvoy, Um No thanks

Only way I consider a trade is if I get my pick of the candidates, not taking whichever they are willing to deal

 

[Number8]

So Schneider isn’t good? When did Mcavoy return to #1 form? He has little desire since he got his 9.5. I’ve seen enough and I wanted him named captain after Chara. I’m over and out on Mcavoy.

I’d bet a dollar that McAvoy on LTIR is not due to something new. Think he’s been hurt for a while AND trying to do much.

Selling low on McAvoy is a brutal idea in my book.

 

[Zillah]

I’d bet a dollar that McAvoy on LTIR is not due to something new. Think he’s been hurt for a while AND trying to do much.

Selling low on McAvoy is a brutal idea in my book.

I don’t think anyone wants to sell low on Mac but if his reputation dupes a team into overpaying do it . Anything that helps the rebuild . I haven’t seen the defensive zone play drop one bit since he’s been out . It was bad before and it’s still bad . I am much more looking forward to Lindholm getting back . No one should be untouchable on this mess of 3rd liners and bottom pair D

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I don’t think anyone wants to sell low on Mac but if his reputation dupes a team into overpaying do it . Anything that helps the rebuild . I haven’t seen the defensive zone play drop one bit since he’s been out . It was bad before and it’s still bad . I am much more looking forward to Lindholm getting back . No one should be untouchable on this mess of 3rd liners and bottom pair D

I think the defensive play being as good or better has to do with some of the guys really stepping up while our top two defenders are out.

Lohrei has been much better, focused, making strong plays in three zones and not giving the puck away near as much.

Zadorov has stepped into more of a leadership role, has really taken charge physically and is playing with far better control.

Peeke is playing about four minutes more per game than his season average, is noticeably stronger in every aspect and has been a plus player.

Wotherspoon has shown up and played really well. Hell, even Callahan isn’t looking out of place.

Controversial to say, but I think this blueline having to run without its top two players for a bit is maybe the best thing that could have happened for it. When Hampus and McAvoy get back, they won’t be required to take on such a heavy load… and 1 through 6 should look far more reliable after these reps.

This isn’t addition by subtraction.

 

[RoccoF14]

Calum Ritchie gets a lot of love on HFBoards but I feel like if was a Bruins prospect people would be saying he projects as a 3rd line center.

I know he's tearing it up at the moment but he's in his draft +2 year. At the same age Fabian Lysell was a point per game player in the AHL against men.

I'm not an expert by any means, I just wonder what Ritchie's value and upside really is.

I think Ritchie is gonna be a real solid 2C in this league.

 

[JCRO]

We get something unexpected and exciting at a good age and we want to put on the trade block

So who goes in that spot ?

Give me 3-5 names

Yeah I personally am just not convinced Geekie is a solidified presence in this top 6- which you may have to pay like he is this offseason. Though again as I said, maybe you get away with paying him less this offseason. But it would probably be shorter term. Not against this scenario.

Trade wise teams would overpay for him not only for his current production but because they also control him as an RFA. He could also be a piece in a bigger trade.

To answer your question and not to be a wise ass but I’m immediately throwing out names like Merkulov/Lysell/Poitras at you. See what you have and regroup this summer.

As I also stated in my post, I’ve seen Geekie mature. His game has improved. Heck, I was the guy defending him earlier in the season when there were a lot of pitchforks out and saying we would all like him a lot more if he wasn’t being force fed into the top 6. Well now he’s found a home with Pasta and Zacha.

But I still wonder how much of that is his improvement, and how much is it from the resurgence of the noodle guy.

 

[RoccoF14]

Nicely written, Dom. I am in agreement on the retool as well. It's time for the Bruins to look to the future rather than just the next playoffs.

I liked the article too, but I disagree on Marchand. If he's not extended prior to the deadline, he's gotta be on the trade block. You wanna show loyalty, then fine, do it now. Not over the summer.

I think people are waaaay to confident in the assumption that he's gonna automatically re-sign at a hometown discount. San Jose made that exact same mistake with Joe Pavelski. He was a 13yr, career player with San Jose and was their captain as well.

Instead of re-signing, Pavelski took a 3x$7mil offer from Dallas.....6 years ago. Its insane to think that Marchand won't get a similar offer and Boston has absolutely 0 leverage.

You either gotta extend him now, or trade him while you can still get some assets back. Letting him walk for nothing is unacceptable.

 

[JCRO]

I liked the article too, but I disagree on Marchand. If he's not extended prior to the deadline, he's gotta be on the trade block.

I think people are waaaay to confident in the assumption that he's gonna re-sign at a hometown discount. San Jose made that exact same mistake with Joe Pavelski. He was a 13yr, career player with San Jose and was their captain as well.

Instead of re-signing, Pavelski took a 3x$7mil offer from Dallas. Its not insane to think that Marchand won't get a similar offer and that's not a number I'd be willing to match.

You either gotta extend him now, or trade him while you can get some assets back. Letting him walk for nothing is unacceptable.

Same can be said about Frederic.

Decide before the TDL. Can’t walk for nothing.

Marchand I let him decide on if he’s staying or going like Dom alluded to. But if he’s staying then you need to get it done.