Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIII

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Because he’s going to want a hefty raise and the Bruins should focus on rebuilding not giving a guy in his mid-late 20’s a lengthy extension.
You could have something here. The Bruins trade Geekie and Zacha and play some other 3rd liners with Pasta every 15-20 games,and trade them until they actually end up with legit top 6 players other than Pasta and Marchand.:sarcasm:
 
If/when Hampus and McAvoy are both back, I want them paired together. Then replace Carlo with a better all-around D-man who can skate and handle the puck to pair with Zadorov or Lohrei on the 2nd pair depending on the situation. What the Bruins really need is a true No.2 D-man to anchor that 2nd pair.

Pair A --- #3 Hampus - #1 - McAvoy

Pair B --- #4 - Zadorov or Lohrei (depending on the situation) - #2 - ?????

Pair C---- #5 Zadorov or Lohrei (depending on the situation) - #6 - Peeke/Wotherspoon

I wonder what a Carlo + for Rasmus Andersson deal would look like.

I’m more of the mind of a Clifton level guy that can be support on a pairing getting more offensive zone time. I think handing McAvoy o-zone starts like he an offensive defenseman is a misuse of his talents as a defender and puck transition guy and they should be giving him more shutdown deployments to get the team transitioning to offense instead of getting hemmed in. And if you are going to subsequently give Lindholm and especially Lorhei more offensive time, Carlo is just a wet blanket. They don’t need an alpha with Lindholm or Lorhei, but someone who can be the 5th person on the attack instead of having a 4 man attack like when Carlo is out there.
 
He might get a lot more if this keeps up. As long as it keeps up that number works for me as well, but it’s going to end up being a Zadorov level contract if he regresses back to the player we saw last season.

He had basically a 40 point season last year centering the 3rd line (39 in 76, 17 goals).

He had a rough start to the year with a now fired coach that was using him rather strangely. He's been on a goal-every-other game pace since late November. (14 in 28).

I don't expect that to continue long term. But if you can get somewhere in the middle (say 25 goals, 20 assists) at 4.5-5.0 with cap expected to go up that would be good value.
 
IF, IF he can continue his production at a decent clip (say 10 more the rest of the way, 31 games left), is 4-5 million on a mid-term deal outlandish for a 26-year old RFA? Comparable to what they gave Zacha during his first season here.
It isn't, I think anything in the $4-5 million range for 4 years would be a great deal for the Bruins. I would be way more comfortable with the Bruins giving Geekie that kind of contract than Frederic for example.
 
It isn't, I think anything in the $4-5 million range for 4 years would be a great deal for the Bruins. I would be way more comfortable with the Bruins giving Geekie that kind of contract than Frederic for example.

1000%. I don't know what Frederic's next deal will bring but I'm not giving him 4+ over 4 years. I'd prefer they move him out if at all possible. They need to overhaul the forward group still and Frederic isn't part of the solution IMO.
 
IF, IF he can continue his production at a decent clip (say 10 more the rest of the way, 31 games left), is 4-5 million on a mid-term deal outlandish for a 26-year old RFA? Comparable to what they gave Zacha during his first season here.
They paid Zacha $3.5m.

Due to Geekie taking a leave of absence for the first two months of this season, any arb number will likely come back low. Arbitration is the incredibly obvious move for the Bruins, as they should not want to commit money/term on a guy feasting on Pasta-assisted tap ins and feverishly high shooting percentage one timers - at least without Geekie proving it's not a fluke.

They should not and can not give $5m with term to a guy who had Geekie's October and November.
 
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They paid Zacha $3.5m.

Due to Geekie taking a leave of absence for the first two months of this season, any arb number will likely come back low. Arbitration is the incredibly obvious move for the Bruins, as they should not want to commit money/term on a guy feasting on Pasta-assisted tap ins and feverishly high shooting percentage one timers - at least without Geekie proving it's not a fluke.

They should not and can not give $5m with term to a guy who had Geekie's October and November.

No, they paid him 3.5 coming from NJ. Midway through his first year here they handed him 4.75 per year, not even one full strong season here under his belt as a Bruin.

And you can't ignore Geekie's first season here either where he was a half-a-PPG player playing center on the 3rd line. That will factor into an arbitration case.

He's the right age, I'm not looking to sign him to a 7-8 year deal here. But taking him to arbitration if there is a deal to be made here is the wrong move IMO.

Let's be honest about 4-5 million in today's league with supposedly rising cap. It's not what you think it is.

They may play hardball with him and take him to arbitration. For a team desperate for guys who can shoot and score, I think that is a mistake. If they can show faith in Zacha mid-way through year 1, why not Geekie after year 2?
 
1000%. I don't know what Frederic's next deal will bring but I'm not giving him 4+ over 4 years. I'd prefer they move him out if at all possible. They need to overhaul the forward group still and Frederic isn't part of the solution IMO.
Agreed. For me, it's no coincidence that Frederic's best games this year have come from him playing center. He needs to be engaged to bring the best out of him, and he's too slow on the forecheck to play on the wing. I like him, but if his future on the Bruins isn't at center, the Bruins should either trade him to the highest bidder or package him for a better forward.
 
Your right it does depend on how one judges elite. You saying a 3 time Norris Trophy winner in Erik Karlsson wasn't an elite player player, when only 3 players in history of the league has won more, is a perfect example.

I mean Sweeney signed Ullmark who was certainly Elite the year he won the Vezina, at least in the regular season,and he did receive a return for linus looking towards the future. So that to date is probably his biggest/best move. So maybe using Elite was a bad choice of words, but the point being is Sweeney just hasn't been a guy to acquire, shall we call it a difference maker or a highly skilled player through a trade in his tenure and who's made an offensive impact on this team, imo.

Hall made a positive offensive impact on the team as a skilled player. DeBrusk was too. I agree though, not enough.
 
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