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They have a right to have their say, I love it when oldies don't weigh in.Love when newbies weigh in
They have a right to have their say, I love it when oldies don't weigh in.Love when newbies weigh in
My fav is the 5th round pick swap Minny turned into Kaprisov.Alot of people should not be working in those jobs ( all teams) to pass 4 rounds on that guy.Just a bit of trivia on the Lucic trade back in 2015.
Since that deal they've never had a pick as low as the 13th overall they got from LA and used on "consensus pick" Zboril.
Colin Miller was poached by Vegas in their expansion draft.
Martin Jones was flipped for the 2016 1st rounder they used to select current fan favorite Trent Frederic.
And even then, having the team back out is still a f***-up. If that’s what you were totally banking on and it wasn’t secured, then when it falls through, you scramble and start tossing your papers around and go: “uh um we choose uh… Shesyschewaun!” that’s a massive f***-up.That's kind of my point, there is always a story with these guys and just not them saying "we f***ed up"
Hard no on this deal but if its EP40 yesA Vancouver fan on the main board suggested...
Zacha, Zadorov and a protected 1st for JT Miller.
For folks saying Carlo, Zacha and a 1st doesn't get the conversation started, this was coming from one of their fans and nobody really pushed back on him.
I may regret saying this… but I don’t like this deal.A Vancouver fan on the main board suggested...
Zacha, Zadorov and a protected 1st for JT Miller.
For folks saying Carlo, Zacha and a 1st doesn't get the conversation started, this was coming from one of their fans and nobody really pushed back on him.
Why do you love itThey have a right to have their say, I love it when oldies don't weigh in.
I don't like it either...for me it's a lot for Miller, although he does have that Savard feel around him - passionateI may regret saying this… but I don’t like this deal.
A Vancouver fan on the main board suggested...
Zacha, Zadorov and a protected 1st for JT Miller.
For folks saying Carlo, Zacha and a 1st doesn't get the conversation started, this was coming from one of their fans and nobody really pushed back on him.
I agree. I’ll add: all concerns about Zadorov considered, I wouldn’t want to lose him in this deal.I don't like it for two reasons
1. Replacing Zacha with Miller is a win but the Bruins are still down a top 6 forward
2. Bruins are in no position to be including a 1st round pick for a guy who will be 32 in a couple of months.
Why do you think this ? " No time to study for the 2015 draft" I just don't get this, what did he do lock himself in a Closet from 2006 till 2015. He began his front office career in 2006, as Director of Player Development to Director of Hockey Operations and onto Assistant General Manager for the prior 6 years before being promoted to GM. I find it very hard to believe Sweeney had very little knowledge gong into the 2015 draft.What am I missing here? Lucic since they weren't going to re-sign him I get...Hamilton deal was awful. First for Ullmark? That's a win? Zacha yes. Coyle yes. Peeke?
The funniest part about the Lucic and Hamilton deals was he got 4 picks in a draft "he had no time to study for"... made sense.
I don’t even know (or think) this is actually believed. But it was used as an excuse by multiple people about why they whiffed so bad in the first round.Why do you think this ? " No time to study for the 2015 draft" I just don't get this, what did he do lock himself in a Closet from 2006 till 2015. He began his front office career in 2006, as Director of Player Development to Director of Hockey Operations and onto Assistant General Manager for the prior 6 years before being promoted to GM. I find it very hard to believe Sweeney had very little knowledge gong into the 2015 draft.
Ive seen people hear blame Kieth Gretzky, Bradly, PC, hell just about everyone on the pay-roll, but in the end its the GMs job to make the final decision and I will never believe Sweeney never ever heard of Kyle Connor or Matt Barzal entering that 2015 draft, hell just purchase a red-line subscription.
Bruins brass probably should be thinking about finding a future top C in his 20s .Anyhow I have no say in it so just have to wait & see what they do or don't do.I don't like it either...for me it's a lot for Miller, although he does have that Savard feel around him - passionate
I'd still push for Carlo....
Or the 5th round pick they traded to pick up McQuaid - didn't seem so bad until it ended up with the Stars and they used it to draft Jamie Benn.My fav is the 5th round pick swap Minny turned into Kaprisov.Alot of people should not be working in those jobs ( all teams) to pass 4 rounds on that guy.
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Don't disagree....but what if long term you can live with Miller, Lindholm, Poitras?Bruins brass probably should be thinking about finding a future top C in his 20s .Anyhow I have no say in it so just have to wait & see what they do or don't do.
Big pass for me. Just don't see JT Miller being worth all that. I like Zadarov and what he brings to this team,Zacha and a future first Id just as soon keep as well, unless its for a Pettersson.A Vancouver fan on the main board suggested...
Zacha, Zadorov and a protected 1st for JT Miller.
For folks saying Carlo, Zacha and a 1st doesn't get the conversation started, this was coming from one of their fans and nobody really pushed back on him.
also no way they're moving Zadorov even if his contract would allow it.I don't like it for two reasons
1. Replacing Zacha with Miller is a win but the Bruins are still down a top 6 forward
2. Bruins are in no position to be including a 1st round pick for a guy who will be 32 in a couple of months.
Should be fun to watch how Bruins brass navigate this deadline.If ever there was one they cannot afford to mess up, it's this one.Don't disagree....but what if long term you can live with Miller, Lindholm, Poitras?
Feels a little like Savard, Bergeron, DK
You could be right about all of that.Good post. I disagree with your take on his drafting and your take on free agency. He has had some whiffs, but he's also picked up guys like Haula, who he turned into Zacha, and Ullmark who won a Vezina and he turned into a 1st round pick. I like Zadorov too. He's 2nd on the team in ice time, 58% Dzone starts and 2nd on the team in plus/minus. Lots of good minor free agent signings too, like Geekie, Brazeau, Nosek, Koepke... Free agency, like the draft, isn't going to hit all the time. I feel like his critics expect him to get everything right all the time, or always draft "the right guy" and never make a mistake because they seem to only focus on the mistakes and never acknowledge the wins. Take the draft for example, everyone focuses on the lack of a center, and that's true and fair, but he also needed to replace Chara and Rask, so he had 3 franchise holes to fill and he filled 2 of them. But that's never acknowledged, it's always "he should have reached for a player that turned out to be a star and I knew it all along because I read draft sites."
I also disagree that the mandate from Buffalo is to keep the Bruins profitable (or that that translates into building teams designed to fail in the first round). With the cap, the Bruins are a cash cow. They don't need to make the playoffs to be profitable, they don't need to win a round. I think your gripe was very true in the Sinden era but in my humble opinion you're holding onto something that died long ago.
Is this for the JT Miller that plays for Vancouver ? Keep dreaming Knucks fansI may regret saying this… but I don’t like this deal.
Right, who was the last player to get a top 6 forward/Center, an established top 4 dman, and a 1st in return for a trade?Is this for the JT Miller that plays for Vancouver ? Keep dreaming Knucks fans
No thanks. Zacha at 4.75 million is a bargain for 50 points.A Vancouver fan on the main board suggested...
Zacha, Zadorov and a protected 1st for JT Miller.
For folks saying Carlo, Zacha and a 1st doesn't get the conversation started, this was coming from one of their fans and nobody really pushed back on him.