Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XII

[bp14]

You can also see that Frederic, Carlo and Coyle are missing from this equation. You are using them and the 1st to fill the first line XXX or expecting an early playoff exit or DNQ.

I would gladly move the 1st this year if it meant the first line C that the pick MAY possibly one day come close to being as as skilled as the 1st line forward you acquired.

Well I’d say it depends. Is the guy assessing whether the acquired player is a 1st line center the same guy who thought Lindholm was the 1st line center we needed?

 

[PlayMakers]

One thing I don't want to do is start dismissing off moves like Miller, Kreider etc the way fans on this board dismissed off Reinhart, Pavelski, Scheifele, Monahan, Necas, etc. I've been in that boat before and learned my lesson.

We get bored and restless and bored leads to boards where we look for reasons to not spend marginal or dwindling assets on talent.

Anyone else remember refusing to include Joe Morrow in deals? Knight? Spooner?

We all search for flaws but in the end, they teams hoisting the Cups are full of 'reclamation' projects or players that other teams felt had dwindling value while coveting their own prized prospects.

Would you take a chance on Zibanejad?

You mention reclamation projects and someone earlier mentioned Washington's retool and taking a chance on Dubois.

Is there an amount retained that makes Zibanejad worth the risk?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Well I’d say it depends. Is the guy assessing whether the acquired player is a 1st line center the same guy who thought Lindholm was the 1st line center we needed?

I feel like those bemoaning Sweeney for the signing of Lindholm should be reminded of how universally it was lauded at the time it was announced.

 

[CellyHard]

Good post. And I agree that we have some good middle6 guys to work with going forward. The issue I have with bringing all of them back is that the cost starts to creep up. It's one thing to pay one 3rd liner UFA money, but 3 of them can start to eat into the money you want to use to add top6 talent.

I'll also disagree that we don't have anyone to replace them with. You mentioned Poitras. If we're going the re-tool route I want Lysell in the lineup full time. Merkulov too, even though his previous call-ups were kind of quiet, he deserves an extended look.

If you sign all 3 of those guys, it makes it really hard for any rookies to get into the lineup. I know young players need to earn their place, and I agree with that philosophy, but it's not like you'd be asking them to beat out Tyler Johnson again. All three of those guys have roles that would be hard to replace with a rookie mid-season.

All that said, I like your Sabres and Devils deals and I'd like to see them add Ehlers this summer.

Ehlers would be a great add but regarding our FA's, I don't like our personal to replace them. I'm not high on Merkulov at all but Lysell should get an opportunity. If you are subtracting the likes of Freddy, Geekie, Braz for these kids you start to get rather small and soft.

I mean take Ehlers for example. Ideal top six forward but he's 172. That's fine because he brings a ton of skill but then you have Merkulov around 176 and Potsy and Lysell not much more. They really aren't the bottom six type. Next time Lysell is up it should be as 2nd line RW.

After watching these Florida games, I get we got outplayed to a degree but the physicality was there and it gave them confidence. I think the goal is to try to keep that but add a few more talented forwards. If it comes at the expense of it we are swinging back and forth between skill and toughness too much and losing a piece of our identity that I think is super important for playoff success.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Would you take a chance on Zibanejad?

You mention reclamation projects and someone earlier mentioned Washington's retool and taking a chance on Dubois.

Is there an amount retained that makes Zibanejad worth the risk?

The problem is it's 5 more seasons after this one. . Pretend they were willing to trade for Coyle, and pick up the difference. So you have him at Coyle's price through the end of next year. That would be ok, but then it's 4 more years

 

[Gifu]

While the Bruins desperately need some firepower on offense and Miller is a very good player at the moment, the Boston Bruins don't do it.

If these rumors about Miller and other players are true, it's no longer a coincidence. The same thing has happened before with Horvat, for example, when it was rumored that Miller and Horvat didn't have very good chemistry and Horvat was traded away. In all these cases, Miller is always on the other side.

Then there's the contract. The player is already old and the contract will go on for years. A declining player, if not now then in the years to come.

 

[GordonHowe]

Injured Bruins forward loved watching teammate avenge him

“It was really special. I mean, that’s the kind of guys we have in here and how tight we are, and I commend them a lot for stepping up and having my back out there,” the injured Bruins forward said of Trent Frederic's fight on Tuesday.

www.masslive.com

 

[quietbruinfan]

Ehlers would be a great add but regarding our FA's, I don't like our personal to replace them. I'm not high on Merkulov at all but Lysell should get an opportunity. you are subtractines of dy, Geekie, BrazFred for these kids you start to get rather small and soft.

I mean take Ehlers for example. Ideal top six forward but he's 172. That's fine because he brings a ton of skill but then you have Merkulov around 176 and Potsy and Lysell not much more. They really aren't the bottom six type. Next time Lysell is up it should be as 2nd line RW.

After watching these Florida games, I get we got outplayed to a degree but the physicality was there and it gave them confidence. I think the goal is to try to keep that but add a few more talented forwards. If it comes at the expense of it we are swinging back and forth between skill and toughness too much and losing a piece of our identity that I think is super important for playoff success.

if you are replacing those guys, you are getting faster and better.

 

[GordonHowe]

The way I see it, JT Miller was a nice player who's still very capable but has started his descent. He'll be 32 shortly and is getting $8MM per year until 2030. Vancouver is trying to solve their internal problem by shoving the older Miller off while keeping Pettersson. Should they want to do that, you don't help them. Perhaps with them retaining some salary and lowered expectations on return you have a conversation with them. Otherwise, let them stew on it and watch the trade value go down until, and maybe not at all, it's a more fitting/acceptable deal. I would also be more interested, as many others have already mentioned, if EP was the piece being moved. Let Vancouver, still one of our mortal enemies, choke on it.

It wouldn't surprise if they went ahead and did it.

But I do not want a 30-year-old 8 million player who will likely fall off the cliff soon enough.

Add to this conflict with EP and, evidently, a need to take some time off for whatever reasons.

No thank you.