Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XI

[Dennis Bonvie]

I love both Middleton and Foligno but you need a young scorer for McAvoy or a package of center prospects. At least 1 of whom can become a number 1.

McAvoy to Chicago for Dach, Nazar and Chicago's first. Your top 3 centers in 2 years Nazar, Poitras and Dach. If you get Misa or Hagens in the draft move Dach to wing.

Don't think you could get Chicago's first for McAvoy straight up.

 

[Knight]

E. Lindholm, Lohrei, and pick or two for JT Miller?

 

[Dr Hook]

Why are we interested in J.T. Miller here? The guy turns 32 this Spring and has three more years after this at $8m AAV. Leaving aside the locker room stuff, shouldn't the goal be to get younger and start building the next core? I understand rebuild is not very likely under this ownership, but a level of retool that prioritizes moving out overpaid underperforming vets and takes some risks on younger players is what I would like to see.

Not that Miller is not a good player on the ice- and he would fill an immediate need- but does this bring the Bruins closer to sustainable success over the longer term? If the goal is just to try and make the playoffs this year, I guess go after him, but it feels like it would be more of the same next season with even less cap space and whatever futures Vancouver might want. Cap space goes up, but so do average salaries so it ends up being a wash.

Convince me on Miller- I am open to having my mind changed on how this would be a good move both now and going forward. It does really feel like of all the things we've speculated about, Miller and Kreider might be the two guys the Bruins would make a move on. I'm already a no on Kreider for much the same reason I am leaning away from Miller.

 

[22Brad Park]

Don't think you could Chicago's first for McAvoy straight up.

I would try it ..Can't see anyone giving up chance like that at James Hagan though

 

[sarge88]

Why are we interested in J.T. Miller here? The guy turns 32 this Spring and has three more years after this at $8m AAV. Leaving aside the locker room stuff, shouldn't the goal be to get younger and start building the next core? I understand rebuild is not very likely under this ownership, but a level of retool that prioritizes moving out overpaid underperforming vets and takes some risks on younger players is what I would like to see.

Not that Miller is not a good player on the ice- and he would fill an immediate need- but does this bring the Bruins closer to sustainable success over the longer term? If the goal is just to try and make the playoffs this year, I guess go after him, but it feels like it would be more of the same next season with even less cap space and whatever futures Vancouver might want. Cap space goes up, but so do average salaries so it ends up being a wash.

Convince me on Miller- I am open to having my mind changed on how this would be a good move both now and going forward. It does really feel like of all the things we've speculated about, Miller and Kreider might be the two guys the Bruins would make a move on. I'm already a no on Kreider for much the same reason I am leaning away from Miller.

I think it's a by-product of a few things. First, this team is in the "habit" of being a contender over the past several years. (We can quibble either way about how legit of a contender they have been, but given their success in 2019, 2023 and 2024, it's hard to argue that they weren't legit cup contenders, at least in those seasons). Given that, I think a lot of us are still looking at them that way, and JT Miller is a legit 1C -- which is a glaring hole.

Secondly, as we've seen, you don't need to finish top 1-2 in your conference to win a cup. I think there's a possibility that many others are thinking --- just make the playoffs and anything can happen. Of course, you need to make the playoffs --- which based on the last week -- doesn't seem like the guarantee it once was.

 

[22Brad Park]

Why are we interested in J.T. Miller here? The guy turns 32 this Spring and has three more years after this at $8m AAV. Leaving aside the locker room stuff, shouldn't the goal be to get younger and start building the next core? I understand rebuild is not very likely under this ownership, but a level of retool that prioritizes moving out overpaid underperforming vets and takes some risks on younger players is what I would like to see.

Not that Miller is not a good player on the ice- and he would fill an immediate need- but does this bring the Bruins closer to sustainable success over the longer term? If the goal is just to try and make the playoffs this year, I guess go after him, but it feels like it would be more of the same next season with even less cap space and whatever futures Vancouver might want. Cap space goes up, but so do average salaries so it ends up being a wash.

Convince me on Miller- I am open to having my mind changed on how this would be a good move both now and going forward. It does really feel like of all the things we've speculated about, Miller and Kreider might be the two guys the Bruins would make a move on. I'm already a no on Kreider for much the same reason I am leaning away from Miller.

If they could ship out Lindholm salary maybe then its palatable..Seriously I want a rebuild this team is a complete mess

 

[TCB]

I’d be shocked if it was EP40 leaving town and not JT Miller.

Regardless, you need to be all in on either one.

You do,but I think they move who they can for the best return. JT has a full no Movement Clause so his will be a little more difficult to get full value, and they can trade Pettersson anywhere as his NMC doesn’t kick in till the end of this season.

 

[Dr Hook]

I think it's a by-product of a few things. First, this team is in the "habit" of being a contender over the past several years. (We can quibble either way about how legit of a contender they have been, but given their success in 2019, 2023 and 2024, it's hard to argue that they weren't legit cup contenders, at least in those seasons). Given that, I think a lot of us are still looking at them that way, and JT Miller is a legit 1C -- which is a glaring hole.

Secondly, as we've seen, you don't need to finish top 1-2 in your conference to win a cup. I think there's a possibility that many others are thinking --- just make the playoffs and anything can happen. Of course, you need to make the playoffs --- which based on the last week -- doesn't seem like the guarantee it once was.

I hear you- maybe a couple seasons ago he would have been a great add. The last two seasons, and with the exception of 19, the team has not been a great playoff team. Add the past two years of playoff flops plus the shambles of this season, and I feel like the reality is that the team needs a shakeup in its core and Miller does not really help that. If you could get him salary for salary with no futures, maybe it's worth it? I do agree he is a legit #1 center, though.

 

[TCB]

 

[Dr Hook]

If they could ship out Lindholm salary maybe then its palatable..Seriously I want a rebuild this team is a complete mess

That's the other wrench in the thing. Lindholm, I believe, is going nowhere, at least not until next year. The Bruins have been after him for a while (Sweeney's words) and they are not likely to give up on him this quickly. If he doesn't really rise to the level we need, that is another aging overpriced center. No need to add to that long-term.

 

[22Brad Park]

That's the other wrench in the thing. Lindholm, I believe, is going nowhere, at least not until next year. The Bruins have been after him for a while (Sweeney's words) and they are not likely to give up on him this quickly. If he doesn't really rise to the level we need, that is another aging overpriced center. No need to add to that long-term.

Sweeney should be trying to unload any salary he can outside Pastrnak and McAvoy .What a mess he has put together here this time.They have nothing in the system and are weak at centre still with no future core one could debate .I would fully support a rebuild but I don't want him being the guy doing it.

 

[JCRO]

This is fantastic news

 

[Dr Hook]

Sweeney should be trying to unload any salary he can outside Pastrnak and McAvoy .What a mess he has put together here this time.They have nothing in the system and are weak at centre still with no future core one could debate .I would fully support a rebuild but I don't want him being the guy doing it.

The only one of the high-priced vets I would keep is Pasta. McAvoy can go elsewhere with that salary if the return would be sweet enough- he could bring in a haul. And leave a huge hole in the D corps. I guess if any D man goes in the near future, it will be Carlo. I would support a rebuild too, but they are risky. I'd hate to be a Sabres fan.

 

[22Brad Park]

The only one of the high-priced vets I would keep is Pasta. McAvoy can go elsewhere with that salary if the return would be sweet enough- he could bring in a haul. And leave a huge hole in the D corps. I guess if any D man goes in the near future, it will be Carlo. I would support a rebuild too, but they are risky. I'd hate to be a Sabres fan.

McAvoy +4 playing over 23 mins a night with this team is impressive actually. Anyhow whatever is fine long as they are focused on rebuild not some foolish attempt like this at retooling.

The only one of the high-priced vets I would keep is Pasta. McAvoy can go elsewhere with that salary if the return would be sweet enough- he could bring in a haul. And leave a huge hole in the D corps. I guess if any D man goes in the near future, it will be Carlo. I would support a rebuild too, but they are risky. I'd hate to be a Sabres fan.

NHL killed Sabres handing McDavid to Edm to fill new rink they built

 

[TCB]

The only one of the high-priced vets I would keep is Pasta. McAvoy can go elsewhere with that salary if the return would be sweet enough- he could bring in a haul. And leave a huge hole in the D corps. I guess if any D man goes in the near future, it will be Carlo. I would support a rebuild too, but they are risky. I'd hate to be a Sabres fan.

If McAvoy willing to waive his no trade clause Id deal him, but there needs to be more than a couple of teams he's willing to go to, or your just not going to get full value.

Swayman on the other hand has no trade protection and Id move him. these NMC really handcuffs the GMs. I get it on why they do them, but dam it really handicaps their ability to make deals.

 

[Dr Hook]

f McAvoy willing to waive his no trade clause Id deal him, but there needs to be more than a couple of teams he's willing to go to, or your just not going to get full value.

Swayman on the other hand has no trade protection and Id move him. these NMC really handcuffs the GMs. I get it on why they do them, but dam it really handicaps their ability to make deals.

For sure I'd deal Swayman. I have soured on the guy substantially. Maybe unfairly, but it is what it is. If the team is outside the PO's at the TDL, I'd send him off, call up DiPietro and roll with him and Korpi and review things over the summer.

 

[TCB]

For sure I'd deal Swayman. I have soured on the guy substantially. Maybe unfairly, but it is what it is. If the team is outside the PO's at the TDL, I'd send him off, call up DiPietro and roll with him and Korpi and review things over the summer.

My exact thoughts! No clue what other teams think about him, but if the right offer came up, Bye _ Bye !

 

[TCB]

Don't think you could Chicago's first for McAvoy straight up.

Would he even waive to go there? My guess if he ever waives its for the Rangers, Islanders or Penguins.

 

[Greek_physique]

IMO, trade Brazeau and Trent. Get some draft capital in and unload those picks for someone else better, someone that can move the needle.

We can get creative and bring in salary.

 

[Son of Donegal]

Why are we interested in J.T. Miller here? The guy turns 32 this Spring and has three more years after this at $8m AAV. Leaving aside the locker room stuff, shouldn't the goal be to get younger and start building the next core? I understand rebuild is not very likely under this ownership, but a level of retool that prioritizes moving out overpaid underperforming vets and takes some risks on younger players is what I would like to see.

Not that Miller is not a good player on the ice- and he would fill an immediate need- but does this bring the Bruins closer to sustainable success over the longer term? If the goal is just to try and make the playoffs this year, I guess go after him, but it feels like it would be more of the same next season with even less cap space and whatever futures Vancouver might want. Cap space goes up, but so do average salaries so it ends up being a wash.

Convince me on Miller- I am open to having my mind changed on how this would be a good move both now and going forward. It does really feel like of all the things we've speculated about, Miller and Kreider might be the two guys the Bruins would make a move on. I'm already a no on Kreider for much the same reason I am leaning away from Miller.

I am 100% with you on Miller - WAY TOO MUCH RISK.

This team should not be buyers right now. In fact, I think this team could sell non-core players from this roster, plug in youth and jags from PROV and still end up exactly where they are now (bubble). Get whatever you can get in terms of draft picks, prospects and cap space and revisit things for 2025-26. Flip them if value can be found...or just get an early start on 2025-26.

 

[22Brad Park]

IMO, trade Brazeau and Trent. Get some draft capital in and unload those picks for someone else better, someone that can move the needle.

We can get creative and bring in salary.

I would definitely try to sell high on Brasseau now.On pace
for 20

 

[BruinsJoe]

Love me that Miller Montreal killer.

Miller was a beauty last night vs Habs and EP40 was a complet ghost. And about the Montreal killer, we ve seen a team that is scary good and hot right now with the young Habs TEAM and their best weapon the PP...and Dobes who looks just like a Carey Price on steroïds...

 

[Son of Donegal]

IMO, trade Brazeau and Trent. Get some draft capital in and unload those picks for someone else better, someone that can move the needle.

We can get creative and bring in salary.

Moving Frederic and Brazeau clears just over $3m. Not much you can do with that. That being said - I am all for selling high on Brazeau and getting a GM to overpay on Freddy.

I also wonder if Korpisalo would be attractive given goalie injuries across the league. Bring up one of the PRO goalers. Screw it. Sway wanted to job...let him sink or swim.

 

[BruinsJoe]

I would definitely try to sell high on Brasseau now.

Brazz has zero value right now even if he s doing good

 

[Greek_physique]

I would definitely try to sell high on Brasseau now.

He'll easily bring in a 2nd or 3rd rounder with his cheap salary.

I personally don't want to re-sign him and don't view him as a top 6 forward. Get something for him and flip that pick for something with term.

Poitras will come back to this team later this year, which will make us better than Brazeau here.