Speculation: Quinn Hughes acceptable trade packages

Mercer, Hamilton, Nemec, Casey, Silayev, 2026 1st.

There's not a snowball's chance in hell New Jersey gives up a package like that. They'll simply wait on Hughes to go into free agency or keep what they have. No team is going to gut their roster like that because he entirely defeats the point of getting Hughes in the first place.

We'd get a good package, but it'll be disappointing relative to what Hughes offers the team he goes to.
 
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Yeah, I don't think QH's next contract is as much about money and term as it is about legacy. Don't be fooled by his quiet demeanor... I think he wants to prove he is great enough to be THE reason his team wins the Cup.
Really?

This will be the first time he gets a choice in where he plays.

Do you think he picked the Canucks in the draft? That he told all the other teams there was no where else he would play?

That he lied when he said winning the cup was more important to him than the accolades of individual trophies? He lied?

You think he would want his legacy to be playing out west where most fans don't see him and maybe getting one shot at a cup?

I am pretty sure he is like most players the best legacy is having their names on the cup, the more often the better.

If he stayed here he could end up with a legacy like Nash's, remember him? One of the top players for a decade playing on a team just like this one, loser.

He has been here for 6/7years now and been losing all but one year, that ought to make him want to stay eh? Whereas he could end up playing for a cup if traded in 2026 or 2027.
 
There's not a snowball's chance in hell New Jersey gives up a package like that. They'll simply wait on Hughes to go into free agency or keep what they have. No team is going to gut their roster like that because he entirely defeats the point of getting Hughes in the first place.

We'd get a good package, but it'll be disappointing relative to what Hughes offers the team he goes to.

It seems like alot, and I added at the very end "Canucks add whatever is needed to receive back all 6 pieces" which could be anything.

But no thats what id take, and NJD have every reason to do it now, and somehow that entire package means diddly to them. They gut their trade chips yes, but keep their three 2nds to trade for forward help.

They have five solid defenseman even after trading 4 for 1.

Hughes - Hughes
Seigenhalter - Pesce
Dillon - Kovacevic

Hamilton vs Hughes is 1.15 capsavings for them along with another 4 for Mercer.

They make room and still ice a disgustingly good top6. Plus they unite the brothers. They can sign carbon copy of Mercer in Jack Roslovic for free to replace him.

Maybe Vancouver adds all their picks 3-7 to make it a 6 for 6.

Maybe NJD trade some of those pieces they and we dont need for players we do need and its a bigger deal.

Either way theyre a prime target swimming in valuable RHD if we were to shop Hughes.
 
Really?

This will be the first time he gets a choice in where he plays.

Do you think he picked the Canucks in the draft? That he told all the other teams there was no where else he would play?

That he lied when he said winning the cup was more important to him than the accolades of individual trophies? He lied?

You think he would want his legacy to be playing out west where most fans don't see him and maybe getting one shot at a cup?

I am pretty sure he is like most players the best legacy is having their names on the cup, the more often the better.

If he stayed here he could end up with a legacy like Nash's, remember him? One of the top players for a decade playing on a team just like this one, loser.

He has been here for 6/7years now and been losing all but one year, that ought to make him want to stay eh? Whereas he could end up playing for a cup if traded in 2026 or 2027.

Can you imagine the responses pegging him as a legacy Canuck if he played with the worlds best players at the Four Nations hahaha.

Out there dangling Finland and setting up all these great USA players while Canucks fans whisper to themselves about how he wants to win here and only here and it would mean alot to him.
 
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The time to discuss this topic is next summer, if no extension is agreed upon. Hughes is 100% not being traded now.

Things change a lot in 12 months so whatever "acceptable package" discuss now will likely not be relevant next year, so it doesn't make much sense to talk about it now. Re-open the thread next June/July if necessary.
If Hughes doesnt march up to Allvin and indicate he doesnt intend to sign an extension, thats when vancouver should be entertaining trading him. Nothing is telling me that he is that type of player, this is his team.
He is their identity right now, and all indication is that hes a good candidate to build around. l would rather talk about whether we should play each other's anthems with all the tensions between nations, than something completely premature like trading Hughes.
 
- You need star power to attract top talent.
- You need top talent to be a contender.
- We are too good to tank for top talent now, we have to recruit them.
- EP is not going to draw anyone until he has a sustained period of dominance like 2 years ago.
- Our ownership was just voted the 2nd worst in the whole dam league, Franky aint attracting anything other than lawsuits.

Whereas Hughes commands respect ever since Tocchet and Foote came in, if not for injuries and whatever hex this team incurred this year, he wouldve been neck and neck with Makar for another Norris.

We waited 50 years for someone like him.

Our management needs to move heaven and earth to keep Hughes, I would rather surrender the next 5 firsts to get Bedard to appease Hughes than to get to the point to let him go and start all over again.
 
Ouch, Boudreau just called out Jim's negotiation tactic.... For coaches at least. yeah, ownership does not have a good rep at all, if you want to see this team do any post season winning in the next 10 years, Hughes has to stay and be our McDavid.
 
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Think you are all missing a few points.

Hughes may be the best player we have ever had. That said, I think we have the best D in our history right now. If we were to trade him, and get the right assets, we would have a pretty good G if Demko holds. Our D would be good even without Quinn. So fill in 3 strong forwards, a top 6 centre, a top 3 winger and another decent forward and some picks. between the haul for QH and our cap space we could do this.

That said, I far prefer to convince Hughes that Vancouver is his future. He is going to cost a fortune to sign his retirement package here, but he would be worth it. Trade one of our good D men for a good forward and a good prospect, and we should be able to right the ship next year.

We have 3 decent draft picks, Lek, EP2, Raty, Willy, Romani, looking like our future is fine. Mostly young.

To misquote Rocky, we should be a contender. For years.

Maybe Mancini and our 2nd for a good forward now. But really, the value of our future D will only get better in a year or 2 in terms of trade bait.
 
We don't take any contracts back to make cap work for anyone. You want Hughes you must pay. We will be not be doing NJ any favors just so it works for them . IF HE DOES GET TRADED
If we trade him to NJ, the time is next year near the trade deadline ... Say a major player , a top prospect and 2 1st's and a 2nd. Assuming NJ is looking like a "contender".
 
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If we trade him to NJ, the time is next year near the trade deadline ... Say a major player , a top prospect and 2 1st's and a 2nd. Assuming NJ is looking like a "contender".
I agree at the TDL BUT not to NJD. They can't or wouldn't destroy their line up to equal the value of Hughes and those they would trade would be the one's they feel they can do without, leftovers. Unless it is a three team trade.

If Hughes continues to blow out scoring records here and stay in the apex of NHL defencemen there would be almost no forwards of the same stature available in the league now.

IMO there are 3 that could equal or be close to his value that MIGHT be attainable, Misa, McKenna and DuPont, all very young and as much pro experience as Willander, which is none. But all are starting off so there is nowhere but up and offer years of watching player improvement. Any could step into the show immediately and score as well as most of the forwards do now.

GMs seeking INSTANT GRATIFICATION would snap at a chance to trade a player not on their roster for a player of his caliber and a first(s) can be forgotten with success.
Buffalo doesn't need more top picks, that market has had great ones, they need wins and QH would help them do that, they have the future star level players already.
SJ is the same, they need wins more than hope
And Chicago need to "please" their super star and pump up the defence.

IMO him going to any of those teams give them instant winning at a invisible cost because like Vancouver, those markets have milked "hope" until there is very little left.

Why trade a super star for merely decent players? Why not do something similar that took 10 years here in 2 yrs instead. Making the playoffs next year for one year isn't the same as 10 years.

They should know enough to make their plan, I think July1 this year for negotiating with his agent/him, I think they can do that but not sign if agreed until he is in the last year of his contract. I doubt there would be much to discuss, he gets 20% of the cap and then only the term and clauses need be worked out. Obviously the Canucks will want to max out everything but the term would be an issue because after the first 100 million in 5 years he still might want to move on to play for a cup. Or resign for an additional 200 mil, that would be around 6 years or 30 mil a season by then and he would be THE player they have to keep. He would be 37/38 at the end of those two contacts and had over 20% of the total cap every year. 1/5th of the entire team's payroll.

It isn't like Edmonton, Vegas, Minnesota, Colorado, Dallas, Los Angles, Utah, even Calgary (with 4 1rst's the next two years) are suddenly going to tank. Utah has had 3 times the number of injuries to starters than the Canucks and still have 18 picks in the next two years. They all have more younger players on those teams and Utah and Buffalo both have the same number of RW's (26) as the Canucks.

That doesn't mean I am calling for a tank, just a bold and daring trade while QH is still under team control for the betterment of the franchise. One player for 2 or 3 studs and playoffs for another decade. One player does not make a TEAM, Bure didn't, Linden didn't, Naslund didn't, the Sedins were almost enough but did help keep the team in the playoffs for 11 of 14 years.
 
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Good to see most fans on the right page here. While most fans get excited over and like to armchair GM trades, having to trade Quinn Hughes is not something that needs to be considered until the 26-27 season and would be a complete fail state. Not really something that's fun for 'discussion' two seasons in advance.
 
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Buffalo doesn't need more top picks, that market has had great ones, they need wins and QH would help them do that, they have the future star level players already.

IMO him going to any of those teams give them instant winning at a invisible cost because like Vancouver, those markets have milked "hope" until there is very little left.

As soon as we missed out on Josh Norris I kinda pinpointed Buffalo as that team that could do something silly and has all the assets to grab all 3 brothers plus their friend Brady.

And your right they dont need more picks and prospects they need a player or two who drags them into the fight, like Quinn and Brady.

I also see Seattle as that team on the cusp of something silly, albeit for different reasons like creating a buzz in the market and Ronnie Franchise job security.

Quinn Hughes for Owen Power, Konsta Helenius, 1st (#7)

Elias Pettersson, Nils Hoglander for Matty Beniers, 1st (#5)

Canucks draft the two Swedes #5 and #7.

Both Power and Beniers, drafted 1 and 2 in 2021, are signed for 6 years giving us a new window of 6 years along with Hronek, MPetey and Debrusk.
 
Do you trade hughes? Ha no. You roll up a brinks truck and ask him what it will take and save $$ to try to sign his brothers or anyone he wants to play with period. He IS the team.

BUT!

Let's be realistic here. Our best centre since the Miller trade has ben Suter. Chytil has been more effective than Petey. Whatever issues he has it's absolutely screwed this teams ability to compete. Demko might never round back in to form either.

This team in 2.5 years went from 3 effectively first line centres, a top 5 goaltender and the best defenseman in the modern era and are now left with 1 centre with Gordie knows what issues. A goaltender with a recurring poplitius muscle issue and a defenseman who is being ridden in to the absolute dirt at 28+ minutes a game with a prospect pool that looks like
  • Lekkerimaki
  • Willander
  • E.Pettersson (D)
And a smattering of maybe Raty, Karlsson, Tolipolo and well that's really about it. It isn't pretty.

You sign Hughs for whatever he is asking. BUT!!! If you even sniff he plans to Tavares this team you find suitors for him immediately, trade him to the best bubble team with actual depth of prospects and picks that will move the needle and you accept the rebuild because without him and 2023/2024 Petey this team is basically in a rebuild
 
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Good to see most fans on the right page here. While most fans get excited over and like to armchair GM trades, having to trade Quinn Hughes is not something that needs to be considered until the 26-27 season and would be a complete fail state. Not really something that's fun for 'discussion' two seasons in advance.
I'd pull it off now and throw in Demko and Boeser to boot...might as well get rid of all the malcontents...how about to rival Seattle for Berkley Catton,Seattle's 2025 1st rounder,Carson Rehkopf,Kim Saarinen,Alexis Bernier,Jaggar Firkus,Vince Dunn,Jordan Eberle,Philip Grubauer,Andre Burakovsky and a partridge in a pear tree...Seattle retains half of Gru and Bura's contract for the remainder of their terms...I'd do it and I'm sure GMFrancis would do it too
 
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If Hughes doesnt march up to Allvin and indicate he doesnt intend to sign an extension, thats when vancouver should be entertaining trading him. Nothing is telling me that he is that type of player, this is his team.
He is their identity right now, and all indication is that hes a good candidate to build around. l would rather talk about whether we should play each other's anthems with all the tensions between nations, than something completely premature like trading Hughes.
IMO management should already have a Plan B, Plan C and Plan D for alternatives. There is no need to wait to make a plan, war games stuff.

A trade plan would already have fan response considered, the narrative needed to sour some fans on him, preparation of departure and when they could pry the biggest best return possible.

Identity, pretty sure it isn't one he would want, loser.
He gave all he has and is being given kudos for team success, but also team failures.
"A great player that did his best on bad team that never made a cup final".

Last year was a fluke, a surprise as stated by Rutherford and later Allvin, much better than they thought. So what did Allvin do? He decimated the team, destroyed the chemistry and bonding in the room. Disappointed the players more than the fans. And sold a winning playoff team from day one even though any real hope of a playoff depended more upon divisional teams failing than any improvement.

Management's big worry is a trade of the icon they created will be their jobs.

The best Plan for management to retain their jobs is to keep him at all costs. Then one injury, one absence, one decline in his game and the lack of cap space can be placed on the player or even the fans and not the architects of the contract.

I have been "following" (more than just that but) hockey and this team for a very, very long time.

My trade ideas are not based on all the players on the team now or making the playoffs next year at all costs, but what it could be in 2 or 3 years.

The cap space available, FAs that might available be then, possible RFAs and team draft picks. Looking at other teams in the division, conference and league.
It takes more time and there is no doubt I miss things but they can be flexible plans with a solid center line but lots of grey on the edges. There is lots of information available publicly.

Out of the box idea in this market, make Hughes a center.
That would be a "instant gratification" move but would hurt Hughes legacy as a great defenceman.
 
Let's make the league's best D man a centre. Brilliant..... just when I thought.....

A person would have to have the IQ of a shoehorn to not be able to think that Management has no idea of whether Quinn will commit for the long term in 2026. They and the agent know the temperature. The guardian has the thermometer in the wrong hole as per usual. So in their exit meetings in a couple of weeks, they will have a vibe one way or another whether he's dug in or he's got one eye on the door.

So if they get a sense that he's not wanting to sport the shitting whale for the next decade, they will float it out there at the draft. But a competent manager would move heaven and earth to sign this guy to an 8 year ticket at the earliest possible date.

McDavid's contract negotiations will be interesting to follow.

I think he re-ups for 15 x 8 July 1 2026.

I kinda think Chilliwack STH and long time Trump supporter had a good post saying if you have to move him, the 2026 deadline is optimum.
 

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