Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread V

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DKH

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Do the Bruins get more points in the standings if they win fights instead of losing them?
I didn’t take that deep a dive in his fighting videos but I did watch him coming out of London

I thought he would score more and be be a middle six with that size and skating

Not sure what happened but he’s certainly fell before my expectations and they got him basically in the hockey yard sale section, ‘whataya give me’

I won’t be surprised if he’s much better then he has been but also not holding my breathe

They need a relentless dogged fore checker who can play and hit hard ~ a playoff style in the regular season.

Guys rarely and don’t want to do it and you have to ‘arrive on time’ as Sweeney says and hit to slow down and cause turnovers

It’s not asking a lot and he seems it’s his floor
 
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To me, it depends on whether Duran has a view to a kill, or is hungry like the wolf. If he -serious- wants to be one of the wild boys... notorious, even, he's going to have to save a prayer for a new moon on Monday. His reflex will have to be to come undone, and aways be like, "Is there something I should know?"

That's a great deal to ask."

Bussi is older than Swayman, and an unrestricted Free Agent at the end of the season. He is not the future of the organization. If he beats Korp out in camp and plays well for a season, his pay may skyrocket towards the Korp level for next year. It probably won't get that high, but if he is good, he is likely looking at 2+ million a year.
I'll take that.
 

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When have they cared much about that? John Moore, Mike Reilly, Matt Beleskey etc etc: they will stick a guy there if it needs to happen, and a handful of hardcore fans raging about it won't make a bit of difference.
You know I started off by saying I can see it happening right?

All I'm saying is it won't look good and a light will shine even brighter on the blunder if the Bruins aren't doing good in the standings.

The difference between those guys is they all played a few seasons before being regulated to the minors. They at least got some value out of those contracts albeit not much.

If Korpi's full 12 million is buried in the minors to never play a game on the big club could be the worst contract decision in the Sweeney era so I could see fans and media getting on his back.
 
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You know I started off by saying I can see it happening right?

All I'm saying is it won't look good and a light will shine even brighter on the blunder if the Bruins aren't doing good in the standings.

The difference between those guys is they all played a few seasons before being regulated to the minors. They at least got some value out of those contracts albeit not much.

If Korpi's full 12 million is buried in the minors to never play a game on the big club could be the worst contract decision in the Sweeney era so I could see fans and media getting on his back.
Fair and I wasn’t having a pop at you or your post, just commenting that they don’t seem to give a shit about some diehard fans and beat writers giving them a hard time about contracts or decisions that don’t work out. If they lost merch or ticket sales they might be care, or be made to care more like, but otherwise don’t think they really do.
 

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Way too early for this but...

If none of our prospects is able to fill that 2RW i would be calling San Jose about Mikael Granlund. Final year of his contract, led Sharks in points last season & had good chemistry with Coyle in Minnesota.
 

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Have you ever been married ?

That’s pretty much the only thing I mastered
Ok, I have fun with this but let me say, I was half joking , I do not believe Gordon did anything wrong he posted something that had already been posted, big freakn deal, get over it. But I, must admit I,have enjoyed the blowback it has been fun...........oh yes I, am married 52 years, .........haha
 

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Ok, I have fun with this but let me say, I was half joking , I do not believe Gordon did anything wrong he posted something that had already been posted, big freakn deal, get over it. But I, must admit I,have enjoyed the blowback it has been fun...........oh yes I, am married 52 years, .........haha
You have a good sense of humor ~ I do enjoy you 80 % of the time ;)
 

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Ok, I have fun with this but let me say, I was half joking , I do not believe Gordon did anything wrong he posted something that had already been posted, big freakn deal, get over it. But I, must admit I,have enjoyed the blowback it has been fun...........oh yes I, am married 52 years, .........haha

Congratulations!
 
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I’d be ecstatic if lysel could fill the second line rw. I’m surprised the nhl posted that. I have a hard time with this. I am very high on lysell but how many guys get top six minutes in their first nhl season? How many times players can put up top six numbers in their first nhl season? I’d love to see some lists to compare. If he steps into the nhl and puts up40-50 points we should all be very happy
 
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I’d be ecstatic if lysel could fill the second line rw. I’m surprised the nhl posted that. I have a hard time with this. I am very high on lysell but how many guys get top six minutes in their first nhl season? How many times players can put up top six numbers in their first nhl season? I’d love to see some lists to compare. If he steps into the nhl and puts up40-50 points we should all be very happy
Lots of rookies get top six minutes. Happens all the time.

40-50 as a measure for top six forward is high. 50 points would have put you at 119 last year - guys who had 50 were Farabee, Peterka, and Slafkovsky. Guys who had 40-50 include Danault, Cozens, Skinner, ELindholm, Bertuzzi, Mantha, Sam Bennett. Debrusk had 40. Frederic had 40. Beniers and Anders Lee had 37 points. Etc.

The 192nd forward in points had 35 (Anton Lundell). 30-35 points if he were to play 70+ games as a top six wing would be good production for a rookie.
 

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Lots of rookies get top six minutes. Happens all the time.

40-50 as a measure for top six forward is high. 50 points would have put you at 119 last year - guys who had 50 were Farabee, Peterka, and Slafkovsky. Guys who had 40-50 include Danault, Cozens, Skinner, ELindholm, Bertuzzi, Mantha, Sam Bennett. Debrusk had 40. Frederic had 40. Beniers and Anders Lee had 37 points. Etc.

The 192nd forward in points had 35 (Anton Lundell). 30-35 points if he were to play 70+ games as a top six wing would be good production for a rookie.
I don’t see this as true. Especially with Boston. Bad teams give super high end first round picks top six minutes sometimes. Good teams don’t generally start them off in the top six. I think it’s more realistic that lysell ends up on the third line.

show me some examples of good teams playing rookies on the top six and I’ll believe you.
 

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I don’t see this as true. Especially with Boston. Bad teams give super high end first round picks top six minutes sometimes. Good teams don’t generally start them off in the top six. I think it’s more realistic that lysell ends up on the third line.

show me some examples of good teams playing rookies on the top six and I’ll believe you.
Matthew Knies would be the most apt recent example. Wyatt Johnston. Seth Jarvis…
 

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Wouldn’t it make sense to put an inexperienced player with two defensively responsible forwards?
I don’t think that’s what he’s suggesting. I think he’s saying that it isn’t a great second line.

Personally, I don’t think it’s ideal either. But ideal doesn’t exist with the roster under its current construction. We didn’t fill the hole that DeBrusk left, so instead we’re cobbling together the middle six.

This leaves Frederic - Poitras/Merkulov - Geekie as your third line. I don’t really like either of them and would prefer to attempt to find a better balance.
 
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I don’t think that’s what he’s suggesting. I think he’s saying that it isn’t a great second line.

Personally, I don’t think it’s ideal either. But ideal doesn’t exist with the roster under its current construction. We didn’t fill the hole that DeBrusk left, so instead we’re cobbling together the middle six.

This leaves Frederic - Poitras/Merkulov - Geekie as your third line. I don’t really like either of them and would prefer to attempt to find a better balance.
Then I don't know why their ages would matter.

I have no idea if it would be a good line as I've never seen Lysell play.
 

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Oh absolutely 100%. I just question if this should be a 2nd line as opposed to a 3rd line when considering each players age and/or experience.
Gotcha. I do think Marchand has to be a 2nd liner as we don't have anyone better but I get your logic now.
 

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I’d be ecstatic if lysel could fill the second line rw. I’m surprised the nhl posted that. I have a hard time with this. I am very high on lysell but how many guys get top six minutes in their first nhl season? How many times players can put up top six numbers in their first nhl season? I’d love to see some lists to compare. If he steps into the nhl and puts up40-50 points we should all be very happy
Check out Danton Heinen's first full season....
 
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