Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread III

[wintersej]

Their numbers for next year are based on a 92M cap ceiling. They factor cap % into their projections.

But, yeah - who knows? We shall see.

Yeah what I think is that by % the middle class has been squeezed during this time period and we are going to see inflation there. Especially for guys with unique aspects to their game like Frederic having size, positional flexibility, and the ability to put up top six 5 on 5 stats from the bottom six.

 

[NDiesel]

What would it cost to get draisaitl if it was zacha+ and then they sign teraveinen

Teravainen-draisaitl-pastrnak
Marchand-Coyle-lysell
Frederic-poitras-geekie
Beecher-kastelic-brazeau

I get the feeling it starts with maybe Carlo or Sway

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I get the feeling it starts with maybe Carlo or Sway

Starts with McAvoy

 

[NDiesel]

Starts with McAvoy

Yeah would make sense too

 

[CDJ]

Does Nate Schmidt suck now? If he doesn’t suck he’s a decent fit next to Carlo

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Toffoli.

At 32?

 

[UncleRico]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807444492020031729

Interesting considering there was rumors Peeke was going to be bought out. Wonder if it would have been Peeke if he was still there.

 

[22Brad Park]

So he’s worth 6 million? Averages 3 goals a year and less than 15 points a season. He is a great penalty killer and very good defensively but he is not a great outlet passer. He skates the puck up the ice well but once he hits the red line he dumps it in. Don’t get me wrong I like him but he’s our only option to trade on the D. Lindholm have a no movement the next 3 years. Like I said I would want a big return for him.

Sweeney don't get big returns .Trade Carlo it just creates a big hole.I also think Carlo is valued in that room and they look at him as way more important then alot of fans .

 

[24giovanni]

At 32?

3 years too much for 32 yo who scored over 30 goals past 2 yrs? I dont think so. Or do u prefer Laine at 26. I am good with either.

 

[goalieman40]

The idea of signing Lindholm AND Stephenson is really intriguing. That would allow guys to slot in the lineup better and be more successful. Coyle to 3C, Zacha wing, bottom 6 guys in bottom 6.

Those two, if estimates are accurate, would be about 12/13 mil. Enough room for Swayman, and if he comes in lower than expected room for low cost D, which one of the buyouts might be a great option - Schmidt.

 

[NDiesel]

The idea of signing Lindholm AND Stephenson is really intriguing. That would allow guys to slot in the lineup better and be more successful. Coyle to 3C, Zacha wing, bottom 6 guys in bottom 6.

Those two, if estimates are accurate, would be about 12/13 mil. Enough room for Swayman, and if he comes in lower than expected room for low cost D, which one of the buyouts might be a great option - Schmidt.

Do you start Poitras in the AHL then?

 

[JoeIsAStud]

The idea of signing Lindholm AND Stephenson is really intriguing. That would allow guys to slot in the lineup better and be more successful. Coyle to 3C, Zacha wing, bottom 6 guys in bottom 6.

Those two, if estimates are accurate, would be about 12/13 mil. Enough room for Swayman, and if he comes in lower than expected room for low cost D, which one of the buyouts might be a great option - Schmidt.

Problem is you are locking 2 guys up into their mid 30s at the same position. It works well perhaps for a couple years, give Poitras a chance to develop in a less stressful role, but then what. No doubt they would both get NMC for at least 3 years, maybe 4, and then NTC the remainder

 

[Coach Parker]

Problem is you are looking 2 guys up into their mid 30s at the same position. It works well perhaps for a couple years, give Poitras a chance to develop in a less stressful role, but then what. No doubt they would both get NMC for at least 3 years, maybe 4, and then NTC the remainder

My concern as well; you can sign one guy over 30 to a long-term contract tomorrow. Just one. Any more is a real risk of having a couple Backes in the middle for half a decade.

 

[Dizzay]

@DominicT not asking for any insider info, but who do think is the big fish the Bruins sign?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Breaking this down a bit...

Ultra high-priced Forwards (~9.5M-12M AAV)
Sam Reinhart
Jake Guentzel

High-priced Forwards (~5M-7M AAV)
Elias Lindholm
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Jonathan Marchessault
Tyler Toffoli
Jake DeBrusk
Chandler Stephenson
Sean Monahan
Tyler Bertuzzi
Teuvo Teräväinen
Jonathan Drouin
Anthony Mantha
Victor Arvidsson

Mid-priced Forwards (~2M-4.5M AAV)
Anthony Duclair
Vladimir Tarasenko
Daniel Sprong
Warren Foegele
Alex Wennberg
Jason Zucker
Max Domi
Stefan Noesen
Jeff Skinner
Jack Roslovic
Danton Heinen
David Perron
Yakov Trenin
Cam Atkinson

Bargain Forwards (~800k-1.9M AAV)
Brandon Duhaime
Tomas Tatar
Jesper Boqvist
James van Riemsdyk
Tanner Pearson
Pat Maroon
Alexander Barabanov
Anthony Beauvillier
Jakub Vrána
Matt Martin
Marc McLaughlin
Tomas Nosek

High-priced Defensemen (~5.2M-8M AAV)
Brandon Montour
Brady Skjei
Matt Roy
Nikita Zadorov
Shayne Gostisbehere

Mid-priced Defenseman (~2.5M-4.8M AAV)
Sean Walker
Alexandre Carrier
Matt Grzelcyk
Brenden Dillon
Justin Schultz

Bargain Defensemen (~1.1M-1.8M AAV)
Joel Edmundson
Calvin de Haan
Ryan Suter
Tyson Barrie
Jani Hakanpää
Kevin Shattenkirk
Alec Martinez
Marco Scandella
Troy Stecher

Will Joel Edmundson be in that bottom tier?

If so, that $ seems wisely spent

 

[pucksindeep92]

The idea of signing Lindholm AND Stephenson is really intriguing. That would allow guys to slot in the lineup better and be more successful. Coyle to 3C, Zacha wing, bottom 6 guys in bottom 6.

Those two, if estimates are accurate, would be about 12/13 mil. Enough room for Swayman, and if he comes in lower than expected room for low cost D, which one of the buyouts might be a great option - Schmidt.

I’ve liked this idea for a while as you could also try to maximize return of Coyle this season/next summer with Poitras and Beecher, especially since geekie can also play center. Coyle plays a hard game as a puck possession monster, but is a few years older than Lindholm and Stephenson and doesn’t drive offense in the same way. Not saying Charlie is going to drop off this year or next age wise for that matter, but I like being proactive while a player has return value, and we need to start thinking about future chemistry and identity. If you’re going to pay over 5mil for your 3C, you should always be weighing options even if you like the guy.

Could also consider Monahan instead of Stephenson as he might be a little cheaper.

 

[UncleRico]

I’d be interested in nate schmidt for one year

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Will Joel Edmundson be in that bottom tier?

If so, that $ seems wisely spent

If Joel Edmundson costed that little, I'd jump on him in 2 seconds.

I have a feeling that won't be the case.

 

[Patdud]

Does Nate Schmidt suck now? If he doesn’t suck he’s a decent fit next to Carlo

he plays RD, hes an odd one that he plays his off side more comfortably.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

If Joel Edmundson costed that little, I'd jump on him in 2 seconds.

I have a feeling that won't be the case.

I agree. I think he’ll get a (AAV) raise over his last deal.

But no one is talking about him along those lines.

 

[Patdud]

Matchups, role, etc. +/- isn't a very good measure of these two players. That is not to say that McAvoy doesn't have a next level to reach in the playoffs but... c'mon.

I don't think improving the defense means choosing between those two, that's not really a problem that needs to be solved.

Carlo being the go to PKer where you dont get a minus for giving up a goal and McAvoy being the defacto 5v5 guy where you do.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Wow you like to go 100% literal don't you? In the future I'll up my emoji use to avoid any misunderstanding. Until then let me clarify for you:

1) No shit that Sway and his agent don't want to "screw us". Point is Swayman now has most/all of leverage with Boston. Arbitration last year probably (don't know) removed any desire to do a so called "team friendly" deal.

2) No shit those three centers would make anyone comfortable with YOU in goal. It was hyperbole. I don't think Korpisalo is worth $3M for one year, let alone four - and that $3M annual hit will likely come back to bite us at some point. Perhaps as early as this off season.

Better?

Much.

Sorry, I just prefer when someone says what they actually mean.

 

[dafoomie]

Interesting considering there was rumors Peeke was going to be bought out. Wonder if it would have been Peeke if he was still there.

I think he'd be in Toronto now instead of Tanev and they'd still buy out Boqvist.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Matchups, role, etc. +/- isn't a very good measure of these two players. That is not to say that McAvoy doesn't have a next level to reach in the playoffs but... c'mon.

I don't think improving the defense means choosing between those two, that's not really a problem that needs to be solved.

Agreed, but....

Taken out of the context of the previous posts makes the point quite a bit different.

There’s also zero pressure on Carlo to contribute offensively.

True.

Probably why McAvoy gets twice as much in salary.

 

[Babajingo]

My 0.5 cents, and I know it carries alot of weight with the top brass, is it's Lindholm or bust.