Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread III

[DominicT]

Why in the world would they want to do that?

I'd feel pretty comfortable with those 3 centers and Darren Pang in goal.

I don't know DB. I'd feel better if it was Gretzky, McDavid, Crosby, Bergeron.

 

[Son of Donegal]

Sorokin was coming up as a UFA when he got $8M. Was making $4M at end of his RFA contract I believe. I don't think he is getting $8M in arb.

Not saying Swayman will get $8, though I wouldn’t be surprised. However, I would be beyond pleasantly surprised if Boston gets him at $6x4 as Dan suggested.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Sign both trade Carlo

And before anyone laughs and says we need Carlo he this or that I ask, what have we accomplished with him being this or that since he's been on the team. Zilch.

Let him be a nice guy in Utah?


Wait until he's the starting goalie during Sways holdout , hehehehe

I think we are overreacting on his contract. He will be movable if need be, every player is at some point

What have we accomplished with McAvoy?

Could get a lot more for him than Carlo, even though Carlo has been better in the playoffs.

I don't know DB. I'd feel better if it was Gretzky, McDavid, Crosby, Bergeron.

We could be comfortable with Blaine Lacher in goal then.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

What have we accomplished with McAvoy?

Could get a lot more for him than Carlo, even though Carlo has been better in the playoffs.



We could be comfortable with Blaine Lacher in goal then.

Sure lol lets say Carlo is McAvoy are equal, good grief.

Carlo had a decent playoff last season sure, nice finally but that's not the point of adding two physical beast to replace him.

Not saying Swayman will get $8, though I wouldn’t be surprised. However, I would be beyond pleasantly surprised if Boston gets him at $6x4 as Dan suggested.

My god wouldn't that be amazing, highly doubtful though

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Not saying Swayman will get $8, though I wouldn’t be surprised. However, I would be beyond pleasantly surprised if Boston gets him at $6x4 as Dan suggested.

I would prefer 8x7.5

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Sure lol lets say Carlo is McAvoy are equal, good grief.

Carlo had a decent playoff last season sure, nice finally but that's not the point of adding two physical beast to replace him.


My god wouldn't that be amazing, highly doubtful though

Carlo has had only one playoff where he was a minus player. McAvoy 4 out of 8 times.

McAvoy -5 in the playoffs, Carlo +11.

In 91 games, McAvoy has 6 playoff goals. Carlo has 5 goals in 72 games.

 

[Ace0813]

Carlo has had only one playoff where he was a minus player. McAvoy 4 out of 8 times.

McAvoy -5 in the playoffs, Carlo +11.

In 91 games, McAvoy has 6 playoff goals. Carlo has 5 goals in 72 games.

There’s also zero pressure on Carlo to contribute offensively.

 

[Beyonder]

Carlo has had only one playoff where he was a minus player. McAvoy 4 out of 8 times.

McAvoy -5 in the playoffs, Carlo +11.

In 91 games, McAvoy has 6 playoff goals. Carlo has 5 goals in 72 games.

Matchups, role, etc. +/- isn't a very good measure of these two players. That is not to say that McAvoy doesn't have a next level to reach in the playoffs but... c'mon.

I don't think improving the defense means choosing between those two, that's not really a problem that needs to be solved.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Kiefer Sherwood, Nashville, had 10g 17a in 68 games, over 200 hits and one of the fastest skaters in the league according to EDGE stats on NHL.com
Give up some offense but on a line with Poitras ad Frederic I think his numbers would improve and Poitras would have a couple of physical guys on his line, one to open up space with his speed and one very good defensively who should score 20 goals next year.

My hope is to sign a player like this and then be able to trade for a player or assets. Sign Sherwood trade Geekie.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Sign both trade Carlo

And before anyone laughs and says we need Carlo he this or that I ask, what have we accomplished with him being this or that since he's been on the team. Zilch.

Let him be a nice guy in Utah?


Wait until he's the starting goalie during Sways holdout , hehehehe

I think we are overreacting on his contract. He will be movable if need be, every player is at some point

It’s all about the assets. If we move Carlo for McGroaty and a pick. It’s a way of getting younger and still competitive.

 

[UncleRico]

The old we want to acquire good players without having to give anything up

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It’s all about the assets. If we move Carlo for McGroaty and a pick. It’s a way of getting younger and still competitive.

It’s a way of getting worse too.

 

[NDiesel]

The thing is Sprong really isn't established as a top six player. He's essentially been an offensive bottom six player the last few years on multiple teams because his defense is so poor it has to be hidden against the weakest competition

Lot of people penciling him into the top six on something like a 4x3 and I would argue its just as risky as taking the gamble on Lysell

I'm not penciling him top 6 though, simply saying he's a good option to replace the speed and some offense that Debrusk brought

 

[Tbaybruin]

It’s a way of getting worse too.

Well how do we get younger with high end prospects? Marchand isn’t getting younger. You don’t build a team through free agency,you compliment it. If we can trade Carlo for a legit young forward you have to think out it. Problem is you have to give to get.

 

[22Brad Park]

Not saying Swayman will get $8, though I wouldn’t be surprised. However, I would be beyond pleasantly surprised if Boston gets him at $6x4 as Dan suggested.

Be shocked anything less then 7..See Tampa traded a 3rd to have Guentzel negotiation rights .

 

[KillerMillerTime]

I would rather spend on 2nd li e guy like Perron who can get you 20g 30a and be a PITA than a Lysell who has skill but appears to have a very selfish, me over the team attitude and has proven nothing.

I saw enough from Poitras last year that I am confident enough to pencil him in as the number 3 center with Frederic and a RW, either Brazeau or Geekie or a 3m UFA.

They cannot claim that the goal is to win the Stanley Cup and have Coyle and Zacha as the top two center again next year and only add DuClair and Foegele to the top 6. That said I have more faith in both of them being more productive than Merkulov and Lysell would be.

Perron is 36, I wouldn't bother with him. I watch a ton of Red Wings and he lacks footspeed big time.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Why anyone would advocate for trading Carlo still baffles me. At his cap hit he’s very good where he is. Now once he’s up and demands big money, yes it might be time then to look elsewhere

 

[NDiesel]

I’d rather give Lysell a shot and if it doesn’t work, then go out at the deadline and acquire someone. As opposed to paying sprong who is probably a bottom 1/3 defensive forward in the league

Not a bad option but now we are talking about giving up an asset at deadline vs a free player in UFA

 

[Tbaybruin]

The old we want to acquire gold player without having to give anything up

Always. I’m like a lot of other posters, I think our players are worth more than they are. Like 1 year of Ullmark and Lauko.

 

[wintersej]

Tampa, Colorado (sans Girard, but he was hurt), Florida have all had size and excellent puck moving from the backend on every pairing.

A bottom four featuring Zadorov/Dillon, Carlo, Peeke ain’t that. Now, I’m not saying playing copycat is the way to go in this league.

But when your team has continually lost because they can’t get out of their zone and can’t can’t any offense from the blueline, I do scratch my head about folks wanting to add Zadorov especially.

I guess of the Bruins think he can play with McAvoy and afford him protection you can see it, but not sure what Zadorov has shown to say he can do that for 82.

 

[22Brad Park]

If Boston trades anything on backend, I myself want it to be Lindholm not Carlo .With Lohrei there now to eat minutes I view him as expendable.He don't justify that contract either with 3 goals,which is what I believe he had if memory correct.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Why anyone would advocate for trading Carlo still baffles me. At his cap hit he’s very good where he is. Now once he’s up and demands big money, yes it might be time then to look elsewhere

So he’s worth over 5 million? He is so limited offensively and isn’t very physical. I like him but if we can better our team for the future and sign fee players now we should consider it no? My hope would be for a team to over pay for him.

 

[22Brad Park]

Tampa, Colorado (sans Girard, but he was hurt), Florida have all had size and excellent puck moving from the backend on every pairing.

A bottom four featuring Zadorov/Dillon, Carlo, Peeke ain’t that. Now, I’m not saying playing copycat is the way to go in this league.

But when your team has continually lost because they can’t get out of their zone and can’t can’t any offense from the blueline, I do scratch my head about folks wanting to add Zadorov especially.

I guess of the Bruins think he can play with McAvoy and afford him protection you can see it, but not sure what Zadorov has shown to say he can do that for 82.

I have watched a ton of Zadorov here in Calgary .He brings alot of bite but has one glaring issue.He wanders alot.

So he’s worth over 5 million? He is so limited offensively and isn’t very physical. I like him but if we can better our team for the future and sign fee players now we should consider it no? My hope would be for a team to over pay for him.

Sounds like Lindholm you are talking about

 

[UncleRico]

Always. I’m like a lot of other posters, I think our players are worth more than they are. Like 1 year of Ullmark and Lauko.

Ya we should have got more for both. Capitals got a 2nd for beck melanstyn who has 105 games 8 goals 16 assists going into his age 26 season. Yet we move up 12 spots in the 4th round and get AHL depth for Lauko.

By no means the end of the world but just weird how everyone else seems to be getting much more value for their players than us

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So he’s worth over 5 million? He is so limited offensively and isn’t very physical. I like him but if we can better our team for the future and sign fee players now we should consider it no? My hope would be for a team to over pay for him.

He’s absolutely worth over $5M. He’d get a ton more than that if he was on the market tomorrow.