Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread II

[NDiesel]

Yeah, I think this was the worst kept secret. Joshua would have gotten more on the open market, but there was almost no chance he was ever leaving Vancouver

I'm surprised he wouldn't test FA tbh, thought someone would way overpay for him

 

[BruinDust]

that deal will be a mistake in about 10 minutes

I disagree Canucks will get his age 28-31 seasons, he spent 4 full years in the NCAA he doesn't have the wear-and-tear of a lot of pro games (just 90 pro games outside of NHL). All he needs to do is keep doing what he's doing on their 3rd line and he's worth every penny. I think he left money on the table not going to July 1st.

This isn't Matt Beleskey signing a big contract to play on a scoring line. He had 17 EV goals last year. If he can give them 15G/15A and 200+ hits that's solid for what he's making.

 

[pucksindeep92]

If you really could make that pick swap with Karlsson and Geekie or someone like Brazzers/Lauko/picks I’m def in for the sake of moving up. Bill can dish it. Even more in if top FA wingers end up asking for too much. But still want Lindholm as the big signing.

Why?
Immediately improves center talent. We are deep at center depth in a sense (some are better suited for wing like Freddy/Zacha) but have no offensive centers in the making. Behind Elias, he would be our best offensive center, bringing more puck moving talent into the fold. It allows Poitras to breathe and condition before officially carrying the weight of the 2nd/3rd line. It allows you to have center flexibility depending on who meshes best with linemates. Zacha and Coyle can officially move to wing.

You also open up a lot of room for trade considering the bottom 6 has some redundant factors that can turn expendability into strengths/picks. And in the off chance Drai becomes available via trade, we will need to send a center out. This would make that hypothetical move hurt less if Coyle/Poitras were gone.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I'm surprised he wouldn't test FA tbh, thought someone would way overpay for him

You could say that about every player who ever resigns with their team before FA. He is happy and comfortable there, and they paid him a boatload of cash, even if he could have gotten a bigger boat

 

[Shoebottom88]

Let's just leave off the value of a really good goaltender in the deal. The day before the trade people were saying Chycrun and 25. A lot were saying they wouldn't do the deal if 25 was the best asset coming. Now it's 25 to take Korpisalo... and Ullmark for Kastelic?

Lol people on this board were saying all kinds of crazy shit. In reality, this is the value. Kinda funny nobody was offering more? The market wasn’t there

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I disagree Canucks will get his age 28-31 seasons, he spent 4 full years in the NCAA he doesn't have the wear-and-tear of a lot of pro games (just 90 pro games outside of NHL). All he needs to do is keep doing what he's doing on their 3rd line and he's worth every penny. I think he left money on the table not going to July 1st.

This isn't Matt Beleskey signing a big contract to play on a scoring line. He had 17 EV goals last year. If he can give them 15G/15A and 200+ hits that's solid for what he's making.

And even if it drops to a more reasonable 12-13 - 25 it's basically fine. I don't think 21.4% shooting percentage is sustainable for him , but he'll be at worst a slightly overpaid 3rd liner

The problem with Belesky is when he couldn't become a scorer, he was largely useless.

 

[Shoebottom88]

One of my favorite justifications I’ve heard so far is by taking on Korpisalo we upgraded from the Sens 2nd to the 1st.

Apparently the cost to dump the worst statistical goalie in the league on a bloated 4 year contract is ~15 spots in the draft.

Makes zero sense

Don’t know what to tell you buddy, but that’s exactly why Korpi is a Bruin. Guess you’re smarter than Sweeney & co. BTW how do you explain the fact that Ulmark has worse stats than Korpi in the playoffs? Is Ullmark the worse playoff goalie ever lol?

 

[NDiesel]

You could say that about every player who ever resigns with their team before FA. He is happy and comfortable there, and they paid him a boatload of cash, even if he could have gotten a bigger boat

For sure, nothing but respect for guys who care less about the money vs being comfortable, just surprised nonetheless

 

[BlackFrancis]

Lol that’s exactly what trades are. There is always risk involved. And the $1.5 figure is the overpayment for Korpi.

What specific overpayment? Per season? Over the entirety of the deal? His 2025 actual salary of $5m?

 

[sleepyh]

How the hell is Heinen worth some of these projected figures?

 

[NDiesel]

Let's just leave off the value of a really good goaltender in the deal. The day before the trade people were saying Chycrun and 25. A lot were saying they wouldn't do the deal if 25 was the best asset coming. Now it's 25 to take Korpisalo... and Ullmark for Kastelic?

Ya...I mean the options are we all overvalued Ullmark or Sweeney and management is completely clueless to their own guys value, one sure seems a lot more plausible to me though.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Ya...I mean the options are we all overvalued Ullmark or Sweeney and management is completely clueless to their own guys value, one sure seems a lot more plausible to me though.

Or as usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle. People overestimated the market, AND Sweeney rushed into a deal because the "timing" was more important to him than " the return".

 

[JCRO]

 

[NDiesel]

Or as usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle. People overestimated the market, AND Sweeney rushed into a deal because the "timing" was more important to him than " the return".

Probably, but I'm starting to wonder if his poor playoff stats may have scared some teams off. At the end of the day we are speculating, maybe we are right or maybe there truly wasn't the types of packages we thought there would be for him.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

They didn't trade for a very good sounding board. That's speculation. That's a possible future.

They traded for a shit goalie on an awful contract.

What you propose they are doing is buying a bunch of penny stocks, at a premium, then counting their billions.

So you can read into the future and come to the conclusion he will be a shit goalie here as well?

I propose its not as bad as you think, I believe he will be a very good back here, IF he even stays.

 

[CDJ]

I disagree Canucks will get his age 28-31 seasons, he spent 4 full years in the NCAA he doesn't have the wear-and-tear of a lot of pro games (just 90 pro games outside of NHL). All he needs to do is keep doing what he's doing on their 3rd line and he's worth every penny. I think he left money on the table not going to July 1st.

This isn't Matt Beleskey signing a big contract to play on a scoring line. He had 17 EV goals last year. If he can give them 15G/15A and 200+ hits that's solid for what he's making.

I think the contract is a steal tbh I was expecting him to get 4/16 or more

 

[Dr Quincy]

So you can read into the future and come to the conclusion he will be a shit goalie here as well?

I propose its not as bad as you think, I believe he will be a very good back here, IF he even stays.

If you are so confident that he'll be a very good back up here, then why wouldn't he be on the team? I don't understand.

 

[BamBamCam]

Horton all over again.
I don't like the way Sweeney does business.

 

[Sevendust]

Let’s bring back the gang!

Heinen 3.25m
Forbort 3.5m
Mike Reilly 3m
Craig Smith 3.5m

Who needs cap space let’s fill the roster with utility guys

If Sweeney would do: It's all part of the plan!!!

 

[pucksindeep92]

 

[veganbruin]

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Sweeney should be on the hot seat if this is legit.

 

[NDiesel]

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Thats pretty hard to believe even with no retention from Ottawa

 

[Bruinfanatic]

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They had to have been getting someone else from Philly

 

[KrugAvoy]

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So the cost for Philly to take Korpisalo was the 7th overall but spaghetti brain Sweeney took 25th.... make it make sense please

 

[Oates2Neely]

Ok. That was a bad season. Would you call all the players on Ottawa shit? LA dealt for him. And Ottawa gave him a huge contract. That means he’s got some talent. Is Ullmark shit cause his playoff stats are shit compared to Korpi’s? Korpi is not a starter, but he is a decent backup. Ottawa expected him to be the starter, Boston doesn’t have as lofty expectations

Please re-right this post in crayon so I can understand