24/25 English Cup thread

[hatterson]

The wave goodbye into finger guns celly was a choice

It certainly takes some chutzpah.

 

[Savant]

what is Arsenal’s record in that all white kit? Pretty sure LFC knocked them out when they were wearing it last year too

 

[maclean]

I guess I hope the questions brought front and centre here lead to .. um, something positive happening

 

[Savant]

It certainly takes some chutzpah.

So does the the Utd’s keepers facial hair

 

[al secord]

Drinks on Dalot.

 

[maclean]

what is Arsenal’s record in that all white kit? Pretty sure LFC knocked them out when they were wearing it last year too

it doesnt even make sense for what its supposed to be

 

[Jussi]

What redemptions for Bayindir after the Carabao Cup game and for Zirkzee after being booed when subbed off.

 

[Jussi]

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

0/10 performance from Havertz.

 

[Jussi]

4th round:

Man Utd v Leicester
Leeds v Millwall/Dagenham and Redbridge
Brighton v Chelsea
Preston/Charlton v Wycombe
Exeter v Nottingham Forest
Coventry v Ipswich
Blackburn v Wolves
Mansfield/Wigan v Fulham
Birmingham v Newcastle
Plymouth v Liverpool
Everton v Bournemouth
Aston Villa v Tottenham
Southampton/Swansea v Burnley
Leyton Orient/Derby v Man City
Doncaster v Crystal Palace
Stoke v Cardiff

 

[Peen]

hahahaha

 

[Venkman]

Arsenal. Havertz in particular. Must have thought they were Spurs with those shirts.

Great finish by Bruno. Happy for Bayindir and Zirkzee. Ref was shit.

 

[Rob]

60 minutes at 11 vs 10 at home and you lose on PKs, pathetic

The might be acceptable against a team like Liverpool but not a struggling Man U. Absolutely humiliating.

No trophies for Arsenal this season.

 

[Jussi]

Arsenal. Havertz in particular. Must have thought they were Spurs with those shirts.

Great finish by Bruno. Happy for Bayindir and Zirkzee. Ref was shit.

The more Amorim gets to train with that team, the better they look like. More organized in defense and midfield, still weak in attack though.

 

[robertmac43]

As soon as the game goes to Pens, you just know we are losing

 

[S E P H]

As I mentioned in our last game...when you have a horrible transfer window, you will get horrible results.

Arsenal looking very vulnerable these past few games.

Bro, we are relying on headers from corners to win games and get us out of jail. We've been shambolic the entire season, not just the past few games.

 

[Savant]

As I mentioned in our last game...when you have a horrible transfer window, you will get horrible results.

This isn’t true

Bro, we are relying on headers from corners to win games and get us out of jail. We've been shambolic the entire season, not just the past few games.

This is true

 

[maclean]

This isn’t true

This was your whole argument for like, was it last season? Maybe the season before? I can't even keep track anymore

 

[S E P H]

This isn’t true

I am not going to be baited by this comment, but I will mention that we screwed our FFP by buying Havertz, so we couldn't spend any more on what we needed...which was a proper #9 because of the 70 million quid on Kai.

The only buys we were able to do were Merino at 28 million (who was a squad depth signing), Calafiori at 40 million (which wasn't exactly needed as we had Tierney/Zinchenko/Tomiyasu), and Raya at 27 million (not needed because we had Ramsdale). Did we improve? Yes, but not for the sake of fixing the main weakness. Yes, Merino fixes depth. Yes, Raya is better than Ramsdale. Yes, Calafiori was a great buy for his talent. And yes, we spent money, but AFTER selling ESR, Nketiah, Ramsdale, and getting a loan fee for Vieria. That 70 million on Havertz would have given us Osimhen. Our actual difference in transfer sum was -20 million Euros, not a lot for a club like Arsenal which is the wealthiest club in England with the highest ticket sales and Kroenke as majority owner. If you want to know, your last season's transfer sum difference was -112 million Euros, meaning you spent huge loads of funds last season.

 

[Savant]

This was your whole argument for like, was it last season? Maybe the season before? I can't even keep track anymore

Having a bad window does not help things, but it’s not a death sentence

 

[Savant]

I am not going to be baited by this comment, but I will mention that we screwed our FFP by buying Havertz, so we couldn't spend any more on what we needed...which was a proper #9 because of the 70 million quid on Kai.

And whose fault is that?

The only buys we were able to do were Merino at 28 million (who was a squad depth signing), Calafiori at 40 million (which wasn't exactly needed as we had Tierney/Zinchenko/Tomiyasu), and Raya at 27 million (not needed because we had Ramsdale). Did we improve? Yes, but not for the sake of fixing the main weakness. Yes, Merino fixes depth. Yes, Raya is better than Ramsdale. Yes, Calafiori was a great buy for his talent. And yes, we spent money…

This doesn’t even sound like a “horrible” window and certainly no one was saying it was “horrible” at the time either. And I’m sure Arteta will whine for more transfers this month too

but AFTER selling ESR, Nketiah, Ramsdale, and getting a loan fee for Vieria.

Yeah that’s how PSR works for every team. And none of those guys would be making a difference; and the depth that replaced them (stated above) was an improvement

That 70 million on Havertz would have given us Osimhen.

The funny think that the Arsenal fans don’t realize is Osimhen/Isak/Gyokeres/etc. would actually be the worst strikers to put into this team

Our actual difference in transfer sum was -20 million Euros, not a lot for a club like Arsenal which is the wealthiest club in England with the highest ticket sales and Kroenke as majority owner.

And whose fault is this?

If you want to know, your last season's transfer sum difference was -112 million Euros, meaning you spent huge loads of funds last season.

Yes, that was last season. Why are you taking about last season, when this season is being referenced. What did Arsenal spend last season? And this season? How much has Arteta spent in general?

 

[Savant]

it doesnt even make sense for what its supposed to be

Yeah. Wearing a shirt to signifiy…

Why are Arsenal wearing an all white kit?

Find out the reason why Arsenal are wearing a white strip for our FA Cup third-round tie against Manchester United

www.arsenal.com

…keeping people safe from violence, investing in safe spaces, continue “Social Action Projects”, and award “community champions…making a positive difference” while they continue to employ Thomas Partey doesn’t make sense at all.

 

[KJS14]

Pathetic loss today. I knew we were going to lose on penalties once it got to that, but boy did Havertz really put the cherry on top of his stinker with that pathetic penalty. Hard to blame penalties on a GK (especially in a game we should have won in regular time), but Raya was terrible on the penalties too - committed early to the same side every time, so much so that the United players didn't even have to guess a side.

But in reality, we should have won by 2-3 goals today if not for another game of god awful finishing. Bruno scored an inch perfect shot over Timber's shoulder, but we can't hit the net from within the 6 yard box. Havertz terrible. Rice should have scored his header - he pretty much hit it to the only area the GK could save it. Regular time penalty was undeserved, but Odegaard couldn't even finish that.

Just one of the most infuriating Arsenal games I've had to watch in a while...

what is Arsenal’s record in that all white kit? Pretty sure LFC knocked them out when they were wearing it last year too

Idk exactly, but I can't remember them ever winning in it. They definitely wore it in the loss to Liverpool last year.

Bro, we are relying on headers from corners to win games and get us out of jail. We've been shambolic the entire season, not just the past few games.

Shambolic the entire season is exaggerating. They've been really bad at finishing for the last few weeks especially. And while we can't finish any chances, our opponents seem to keep scoring goals off of 0.1 xG every week.

Doesn't help that Saka is out, and it may only get worse now with Jesus, Timber, and Jorginho coming off injured today to go along with Nwaneri, White, and Calafiori already out.

If we're serious about competing for the title this year, then we need to spend this month. Go out and pay the Nico Williams release clause and try to convince him. If he doesn't want to move, then fine, but there's no good reason we couldn't spend ~60M on him.

What did Arsenal spend last season? And this season? How much has Arteta spent in general?

Arteta has actually spent less than most (below table is gross spend and net spend since his first full season) - less than Chelsea, Spurs, and United who we've been performing significantly better than. On par with City (gross spend) who already had a billion dollar squad, and more than Liverpool who also already had a PL/CL title winning squad as opposed to the full rebuild that Arteta needed to do.

Has he spent a lot? Yes. Has he spent the money better than most? Also yes. Is he being criticized (seemingly way more than other clubs/managers that have spent more) for not winning the PL? Also yes.



To be clear, today's loss was pathetic.

But now it'll be more ammo for the false narrative that Arteta is a problem/can't win trophies, when in reality he's been great for Arsenal. Not sure how you can blame him when his team missed like 3-4 big chances inside the 6 yard box. Today was on the players, not Arteta.

 

[Jussi]

As soon as the game goes to Pens, you just know we are losing

Let's not bring the Penguins into this...

 

[Blender]

4th round:

Brighton v Chelsea

Tough draw already this early, unfortunate.