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I mean Kerfoot and Dumba while dropping Ryjo would be an upgrade for this team 100%. But... we've seen Kerfoot in the playoffs and it isn't pretty.
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I'd like Kerfoot at 1.75M for next year. At this price he'd be a valuable asset for a team in a cap crunch situation like us.
If we make that trade I'd pay AZ to retain.
Actually a RyJo for Kerfoot at 50% swap at the deadline would cost AZ around 3M in real money. It's not that bad.
What reason would Arizona have to retain? Kerfoot is producing just fine for what he's making.
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Ya don't think they would, but a swap for RyJo with us giving them an asset works for both teams.
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Because we need cap space and they don't? We'd give them assets to retain. It's a common thing.
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Sure, if its cheap to retain, I would too. But Arizona isn’t the type to take on actual $$. Cap for them is no problem, actual dollars are.
Let’s bring back players that couldn’t hack it in Co. bold strategy cotton
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Arizona already has one retained salary on the books, although I believe it is a weird one, so might not count. But if it does, the price for them to retain on Kerfoot might be quite high, with them also wanting to move Dumba and Zucker.
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Here's the thing...
Kerfoot at full cap hit stapled to the 2C spot sucks. If that happens we're doomed. However, Kerfoot at 1.75M as a swiss army knife type of bottom 9 player for this year and next year is a very valuable asset.
Kerfoot at full cap hit stapled to the 2C spot sucks. If that happens we're doomed. However, Kerfoot at 1.75M as a swiss army knife type of bottom 9 player for this year and next year is a very valuable asset.
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Yeah that's true. If they were to bring in Kerfoot(at 1.75) and then a legit 2C next year that could be pretty nice for next year. Especially considering I feel like Kerfoots playmaking could compliment Colton and Wood pretty well.
The issue would be if Kerfoot is supposed to be the 2C fix for this season.
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To me, bringing back Kerfoot is another middling option in the Wennberg tier, with the baggage of being a former player.
The pros are he's above average defensively, and does all of his offensive damage at even strength. Both of those are things the Avalanche need help with right now. Kerfoot's 9 power play points this year are by far his most since leaving Colorado; he had 9 power play points total in four seasons with Toronto, where he had 50 ES points one season.
We're all too familiar with the cons: consistency, size, and the question of whether he's really a center. He's played a lot of C this year, but is currently playing LW.
The pros are he's above average defensively, and does all of his offensive damage at even strength. Both of those are things the Avalanche need help with right now. Kerfoot's 9 power play points this year are by far his most since leaving Colorado; he had 9 power play points total in four seasons with Toronto, where he had 50 ES points one season.
We're all too familiar with the cons: consistency, size, and the question of whether he's really a center. He's played a lot of C this year, but is currently playing LW.
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obviously, if Kerfoot is being brought in for 2C, that’s not acceptable.
Straight up for RyJo to play bottom 6 for this playoff run? No issues with that.
Straight up for RyJo to play bottom 6 for this playoff run? No issues with that.
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Playoffs-Kerfoot is certainly not ideal. Maybe we can mix Playoffs-Ryjo with RS-Kerfoot. That could be a pretty good combination.
That’s just it. Kerfoot as 2C is a terrible idea. Now bringing in Kerfoot and a 2C so you can run a bottom 6 of:
Wood - Colton - LOC
Cogs/Landy - Kerfoot - Kovy/Parise
(I don’t buy that if Landy comes back in the playoffs he’ll be ready for top 6 minutes/duties especially right away)
Well that would really improve the offensive depth and give you 2 lines in the bottom 6 that you’re comfortable throwing out there for 10+ minutes a game in the playoffs
You know what the worst part about Kerfoot would be?
He's signed for next year, which means they wouldn't be looking at him as just a rental solution for this year and re-evaluate in the summer. They'd be getting Kerfoot for the 2C spot for the next 2 years.
I'll just go ahead and say right now if Kerfoot ends up being the deal we make, the window is closed. That would be a contention closing trade.
He's signed for next year, which means they wouldn't be looking at him as just a rental solution for this year and re-evaluate in the summer. They'd be getting Kerfoot for the 2C spot for the next 2 years.
I'll just go ahead and say right now if Kerfoot ends up being the deal we make, the window is closed. That would be a contention closing trade.
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I think I have the Avs figured out. They are acquiring Kerfoot so they can use him in a deal for Kadri with CGY. That worked out really good the first time around.
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Not quite a « contention closing trade » that would be acquiring Huberdeau
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Ya'll already finding ways of justifying bringing back Kerfoot and how it might work out need to go to a therapist to get your masochism checked out.
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Obviously like most I want the long term solution at 2C but those players feel unrealistic for this FO at the deadline.
I’d love loading up on depth as a 2nd option tho. People are to quick to shoot down certain names. Kerfoot by himself? Disaster. Kerfoot with retention followed up by a few more adds isn’t the worst thing in the world. Not sure if you can swing it with the cap but a Henrique/Kerfoot/Walker deadline without giving up Richie would awesome.
I’d love loading up on depth as a 2nd option tho. People are to quick to shoot down certain names. Kerfoot by himself? Disaster. Kerfoot with retention followed up by a few more adds isn’t the worst thing in the world. Not sure if you can swing it with the cap but a Henrique/Kerfoot/Walker deadline without giving up Richie would awesome.
Kerfoot for Ryjo, playing a 4C role? Sure.
Kerfoot with the intention of him being the 2C? f*** off, CMac!
Kerfoot with the intention of him being the 2C? f*** off, CMac!
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RyJo to Nashville for Barrie. Prospect to Zona for Kerfoot.
1st+ Kerfoot + Barrie to Calgary for Naz.
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You do realize there is this thing called the salary cap right?
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