GDT: #22 ⋅ LAK @ ANA ⋅ 12:30 PM PST

[ZegrassyKnoll]

Some mouthy ass 5’2” female Kings fans just told me to shut my mouth as we were walking out and I was talking to my mother about how the Kings are at best 1st round fodder.

Never change, low class fans. Never change.

I've been to hundreds of games and the only time I've ever gotten into a yelling match with somebody was a Kings game lol

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

Hard for me to be too upset about that game. Would’ve wanted a point but sometimes you gotta tip your cap and Portillo played excellent in a game the Ducks deserved to win. Play a full 60 minutes like that every night and they’ll be in good shape.

This team needs another scorer. Just one. Would do wonders.

 

[JAHV]

I'd be ecstatic with this effort, despite the loss, against anyone but the Kings. Screw the Kings.

 

[Leonardo87]

I don’t care how they looked. Need to pot goals. Enough is F’ing enough.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Final Shots report from Natural Stat Trick

We won the shooting metric between all three facets (Corsi, Fenwick, standard), but ran into a hotter goalie than ours. I wasn't expecting to win, but I do like how we played in this game even when the Kings clogged up the neutral zone throughout the game. We should earn more points playing this way. We should earn more points if we can also find a more competent PP coach. After today, our PP Eff stands at 14.9%. We are getting worse on the PP.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

The Kings have stifled many teams to scoring 2 or fewer goals this season. There is no shame in seeing the Kings hold us to 1 goal, like they did in the first meeting.

• Kings opponents (before today's game)
  • Scoring 0 goals against = 1 time
    Record: 1-0-0 (2 pts)
  • Scoring 1 goal against = 8 times
    Record: 7-1-0 (14 pts)
  • Scoring 2 goals against = 4 times
    Record: 3-0-1 (6 points)
  • Total = 13 times the Kings have prevented opposing team from scoring 2 or fewer goals.

We have had a difficult time scoring 3 or more goals all season. Here is our chart (before today's game against the Kings):

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First meeting with the Kings on Oct 20th.

• Score: Kings 4, Ducks 1
• SOG: Kings 36, Ducks 14
• PP: Kings 0/2, Ducks 0/3

2nd meeting with the Kings on Nov 29th.

• Score: Kings 2, Ducks 1
• SOG: Kings 18, Ducks 31
• PP: Kings 0/2, Ducks 0/3

That is a significant turnaround between the two team over a month apart in games. We lost this game due to two mistakes and great goal tending: Zegras missed pass in the neutral zone that lead to a 2v1 snipe and Gudas getting beat by his man to the loose puck in front of the net. Still, we do see significant progress here.

Next step is improving our PP.

 

[FlyingV09]

The Kings are known for a low scoring game. They made us play their game and their goalie had a great game. That toe save on Terry was amazing! Hot goalie > finishers. WE should know since we've stolen lots of games b/c of great goal tending. Conversely, why didn't you say, "This team needs a better goaltending!"?

Our problem was making mistakes against this veteran team. We could have won 1-0 if we didn't make mistakes. We could have earned a point if we didn't make a 2nd mistake. If our PP has a better design, then we might have scored another goal. We had trouble getting into the zone on the PP, which reduces our chances of actually increasing our chances of "finishing".

It's a 2-1 loss to a team that clogs up the neutral zone, especially with a lead, to make us tired before going into the Ozone. That's part of the Kings game plan in reducing goals against chances.

This was a good game even though we lost. We had our chances, but their goalie was on it today.

We had a ton of chances. That wasn’t the problem. We missed nets. We didn’t bury. We lack finish.

That toe save on Terry was more Terry than anything. All he had to do was hold onto it for half a second longer and he has an open net. The goalie was completely beaten.

 

[FlyingV09]

I don’t care how they looked. Need to pot goals. Enough is F’ing enough.

Yep. This team isn’t good enough to give games away if they want to be serious about sniffing the playoffs.

 

[2faded]

What a frustrating game. We have a few players that make the team look decent and whole lot of players that cant handle a puck or make a pass.

I think Vatrano sucks at everything except scoring goals and this season he sucks at scoring goals. The team would be better off without him on the ice.

 

[LuGBuG]

The McTavish hate is getting to be a lot. He’s super young and I didn’t find him bad at all this game. I think he’s moving faster but he still needs to catch up to the game speed a bit upstairs. He’s a gamer. Not the type of kid you worry about. If he wasn’t trying then I’d be worried.

 

[robbieboy3686]

The McTavish hate is getting to be a lot. He’s super young and I didn’t find him bad at all this game. I think he’s moving faster but he still needs to catch up to the game speed a bit upstairs. He’s a gamer. Not the type of kid you worry about. If he wasn’t trying then I’d be worried.

I agree with this for the most part, only that he needs to start trending the right way asap. He and gudas by far are the ducks 2 most disappointing players. I would’ve never imagined that ever being the case this season. It’s what makes this season extra frustrating. Zelwegger and heleson each have really surprised me. I would’ve guessed that helesson was our new Perrault, never given a chance with us and traded. I’m shocked he was called up at all. I guess that means lunea hasn’t showed much down with the gulls ?

 

[ScarTroy]

Vatrano, Gudas, and Killorn all suck, the vets you need to step up look like garbage, slightly less so for Killorn. I’m used to putting Strome in that category but he has been making some good plays lately. The kids can’t do much when the so called leaders are letting them down.

 

[LuGBuG]

Vatrano, Gudas, and Killorn all suck, the vets you need to step up look like garbage, slightly less so for Killorn. I’m used to putting Strome in that category but he has been making some good plays lately. The kids can’t do much when the so called leaders are letting them down.

This is just extreme. We played well and while they’ve had their moments they also bring a lot more then just their on ice production every game. Guaranteed they are important in that locker room.

 

[ScarTroy]

This is just extreme. We played well and while they’ve had their moments they also bring a lot more then just their on ice production every game. Guaranteed they are important in that locker room.

Disagree, and trust me I’m normally very optimistic and give guys the benefit of the doubt, but those three suck this season. If they are bringing something to the locker room that’s great, but it would sure be nice if they could translate that into their on ice play.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

We had a ton of chances. That wasn’t the problem. We missed nets. We didn’t bury. We lack finish.

That toe save on Terry was more Terry than anything. All he had to do was hold onto it for half a second longer and he has an open net. The goalie was completely beaten.

Completely beaten, yet the toe pick stopped the shot. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

As for didn't bury and lack of finish, then you can apply that to our own goalie situation. We don't have great goaltenders, it's just the other teams cannot finish.

• Teams that has 40 or more SOG's against us this year
  • Oct 18th, at Col
    • Score: Ducks 3, Col 4 OT
    • SOGs: Ducks 19, Col 49
  • Oct 29th, at NYI
    • Score: Ducks 3, NYI 1
    • SOGs: Ducks 22, NYI 41
  • Oct 31st, at Pitt
    • Score: Ducks 1, Pitt 2 OT
    • SOGs: Ducks 23, Col 45
  • Nov 11th, vs Clb
    • Score: Ducks 4, Clb 2
    • SOGs: Ducks 30, Clb 40
  • Nov 27th, vs Sea
    • Score: Ducks 5, Sea 2
    • SOGs: Ducks 33, Col 44

The Ducks earning 8 points in those five games means that the other team couldn't finish in regulation. Dostal and Gibby were not factors in those games at all. Just trade Gibby already and wait for Riemer to go on waivers again b/c it's not the goalies that are great, but the other teams cannot finish.

 

[FlyingV09]

Completely beaten, yet the toe pick stopped the shot. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

As for didn't bury and lack of finish, then you can apply that to our own goalie situation. We don't have great goaltenders, it's just the other teams cannot finish.

• Teams that has 40 or more SOG's against us this year
  • Oct 18th, at Col
    • Score: Ducks 3, Col 4 OT
    • SOGs: Ducks 19, Col 49
  • Oct 29th, at NYI
    • Score: Ducks 3, NYI 1
    • SOGs: Ducks 22, NYI 41
  • Oct 31st, at Pitt
    • Score: Ducks 1, Pitt 2 OT
    • SOGs: Ducks 23, Col 45
  • Nov 11th, vs Clb
    • Score: Ducks 4, Clb 2
    • SOGs: Ducks 30, Clb 40
  • Nov 27th, vs Sea
    • Score: Ducks 5, Sea 2
    • SOGs: Ducks 33, Col 44

The Ducks earning 8 points in those five games means that the other team couldn't finish in regulation. Dostal and Gibby were not factors in those games at all. Just trade Gibby already and wait for Riemer to go on waivers again b/c it's not the goalies that are great, but the other teams cannot finish.

You love to throw out stats so here’s a stat for you: The Ducks currently sit tied for last in the league for goals scored with 56.

We don’t score enough goals. WE LACK FINISH.

Terry deked that goalie out of his pants. Portillo was completely out of position and yes, beaten. All Troy had to do was wait a split second. I bet if you asked him, he’d say the same thing.

 

[FiveTacos]

Zelwegger and heleson each have really surprised me. I would’ve guessed that helesson was our new Perrault, never given a chance with us and traded. I’m shocked he was called up at all. I guess that means lunea hasn’t showed much down with the gulls ?

Not necessarily. Luneau is still only 20, has plenty to learn even if he has more ultimate upside. Helleson is 23 ... more physically mature, has a full pro season under his belt. Just more ready for the rigors of the NHL in the here and now.

If Helleson is the real deal (even if his ceiling is a 4/5), it makes what was already a strong future D corps that much better. I'll admit, I thought he was buried in our deep system and was going to have to leave to find a gig, but clearly they saw enough to give him the call up. And he's taken the ball and run with it.

Zellweger, OTOH, I fully expected this out of him. Yes, he's small, but his base is really strong so he plays bigger than his measurements, and his vision/IQ/processing speed is high level. It's not just the offense ... his general reads, zone exits, puck retrievals, stick work, transition D, etc. are all pretty good for the type of player he is, he's not one of those one-way guys who gets his points by taking ridiculous gambles nonstop like an Ozolinsh.

 

[slippingsloth]

The Kings have stifled many teams to scoring 2 or fewer goals this season. There is no shame in seeing the Kings hold us to 1 goal, like they did in the first meeting.

• Kings opponents (before today's game)
  • Scoring 0 goals against = 1 time
    Record: 1-0-0 (2 pts)
  • Scoring 1 goal against = 8 times
    Record: 7-1-0 (14 pts)
  • Scoring 2 goals against = 4 times
    Record: 3-0-1 (6 points)
  • Total = 13 times the Kings have prevented opposing team from scoring 2 or fewer goals.

We have had a difficult time scoring 3 or more goals all season. Here is our chart (before today's game against the Kings):

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First meeting with the Kings on Oct 20th.

• Score: Kings 4, Ducks 1
• SOG: Kings 36, Ducks 14
• PP: Kings 0/2, Ducks 0/3

2nd meeting with the Kings on Nov 29th.

• Score: Kings 2, Ducks 1
• SOG: Kings 18, Ducks 31
• PP: Kings 0/2, Ducks 0/3

That is a significant turnaround between the two team over a month apart in games. We lost this game due to two mistakes and great goal tending: Zegras missed pass in the neutral zone that lead to a 2v1 snipe and Gudas getting beat by his man to the loose puck in front of the net. Still, we do see significant progress here.

Next step is improving our PP.

Agree with the above.
Gudas getting beat was rough as was Zegras errant pass

Overall though if we looked like this the rest of the way it would be upgrade over last year. We are close…

 

[Reveille1984]

Yep. This team isn’t good enough to give games away if they want to be serious about sniffing the playoffs.

Yeah, we aren't running into "hot goalies". Our offense just sucks complete ass.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Not necessarily. Luneau is still only 20, has plenty to learn even if he has more ultimate upside. Helleson is 23 ... more physically mature, has a full pro season under his belt. Just more ready for the rigors of the NHL in the here and now.

If Helleson is the real deal (even if his ceiling is a 4/5), it makes what was already a strong future D corps that much better. I'll admit, I thought he was buried in our deep system and was going to have to leave to find a gig, but clearly they saw enough to give him the call up. And he's taken the ball and run with it.

Zellweger, OTOH, I fully expected this out of him. Yes, he's small, but his base is really strong so he plays bigger than his measurements, and his vision/IQ/processing speed is high level. It's not just the offense ... his general reads, zone exits, puck retrievals, stick work, transition D, etc. are all pretty good for the type of player he is, he's not one of those one-way guys who gets his points by taking ridiculous gambles nonstop like an Ozolinsh.

Helleson arriving means that we don’t have to put up with lacombe ( if he can’t get it together) need a larger sample on helleson, but so far so good.

 

[LuGBuG]

Yeah, we aren't running into "hot goalies". Our offense just sucks complete ass.

See I just can’t grasp this attitude with where we were expected to be, where we are, how we’ve been playing and how we just played that game.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

4 straight game giving up leads.