Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VII

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Bruins are reportedly interested in players with term.

I'd be careful on that. Only one media person has that (Emily Kaplan) - no one else is saying they're looking at players with term. They could certainly be doing that, but I don't think they're looking to do what you outlined on purpose.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Does not look like all that reputable a site, but add Edmundson's name to the mix, I guess. As per Rob Ellis of mynhltrade rumors.com. He is a slightly better Forbort. I do not see the use of adding him.

 

[trenton1]

I'd be careful on that. Only one media person has that (Emily Kaplan) - no one else is saying they're looking at players with term. They could certainly be doing that, but I don't think they're looking to do what you outlined on purpose.

It's a discussion of theoretical options. It's not an outline per se.

 

[Hookslide]

I see a lot of people want to target forwards, I’d rather them aim for another steady top-4 defenseman if they’re going to be giving up valuable assets. Don’t know who’s available, but they’re one Lindholm/McAvoy injury away from being in big trouble come playoff time.

I see a lot of people want to target forwards, I’d rather them aim for another steady top-4 defenseman if they’re going to be giving up valuable assets. Don’t know who’s available, but they’re one Lindholm/McAvoy injury away from being in big trouble come playoff time.

That's why Chychrun makes sense but it would involve Carlo.

Look I know if I put a deal together you might piss yourselves laughing, so I won't ......hahaha......But I agree with both posters , injury comes to a d-man this team would be in trouble , I know Chycrun would cost some assets but other than McAvoy contract Lindholm, Carlo, and Chycrun would give you a serious top 4 D.......Now thinking down the line , and you are in good shape in goal . Now with that said those two positions give you some assets to move if necessary in the future too address a need top 4 D and top Goaltenders are all under 30 , to me that is sweet ...........I know people are throwing around some names that are good forwards and contracts that are not team friendly it may an expiring contract which means the assets you gave up are gone , or you maybe taking on a contract that hamstrings you more than you are now.........put a youthful player package together for the Coyotes and get Chycrun................if it takes a first try and make it next years, Lysell ok too , lets get it done .Debrusk is coming back , and who knows there might be someone that is available for the third or fourth line that is not going to hurt you down the line...........Sorry for the ramble, maybe someone will be able decipher what I am trying to say.......

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Look I know if I put a deal together you might piss yourselves laughing, so I won't ......hahaha......But I agree with both posters , injury comes to a d-man this team would be in trouble , I know Chycrun would cost some assets but other than McAvoy contract Lindholm, Carlo, and Chycrun would give you a serious top 4 D.......Now thinking down the line , and you are in good shape in goal . Now with that said those two positions give you some assets to move if necessary in the future too address a need top 4 D and top Goaltenders are all under 30 , to me that is sweet ...........I know people are throwing around some names that are good forwards and contracts that are not team friendly it may an expiring contract which means the assets you gave up are gone , or you maybe taking on a contract that hamstrings you more than you are now.........put a youthful player package together for the Coyotes and get Chycrun................if it takes a first try and make it next years, Lysell ok too , lets get it done .Debrusk is coming back , and who knows there might be someone that is available for the third or fourth line that is not going to hurt you down the line...........Sorry for the ramble, maybe someone will be able decipher what I am trying to say.......

I don't think they have the assets to get Chychrun w\o giving up Carlo or DeBrusk.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I don't think they have the assets to get Chychrun w\o giving up Carlo or DeBrusk.

AZ doesn't want a Carlo or Debrusk. They want more high end prospects and draft picks. They're in no rush to trade him as he has two more years after this. They can afford to wait for someone to meet their insane asking price.

 

[Hookslide]

I don't think they have the assets to get Chychrun w\o giving up Carlo or DeBrusk.

Defeats the purpose , but they have to try........

 

[sarge88]

AZ doesn't want a Carlo or Debrusk. They want more high end prospects and draft picks. They're in no rush to trade him as he has two more years after this. They can afford to wait for someone to meet their insane asking price.

Or see him get injured again and see is value plummet.

 

[LouJersey]

Sounds like a pretty good LTIR chip

Pass

 

[KillerMillerTime]

AZ doesn't want a Carlo or Debrusk. They want more high end prospects and draft picks. They're in no rush to trade him as he has two more years after this. They can afford to wait for someone to meet their insane asking price.

You never really know what Arizona may do until after the deadline.

 

[The don godfather]

AZ doesn't want a Carlo or Debrusk. They want more high end prospects and draft picks. They're in no rush to trade him as he has two more years after this. They can afford to wait for someone to meet their insane asking price.

Lysell and lohrei probably.

 

[bigbadbruins1]

Horvat was my ideal pickup since we have no good C prospects once Berg and DK retire. Now that he is off the table I say hold firm and don't move anyone. Don't forget DK and Bergeron have bonuses that if we don't have the cap room this year they get moved to next years cap number. Not to mention Zacha and (hopefully) pasta getting a raise. We will have to offload quite a bit of cap this offseason.

 

[Matt8871]

If you even think that you want horvat as a future C you should be legally required to show how the salary will fit, even assuming a conservative 7.5 x 7 deal.

 

[TCB]

Pass

Wouldn't matter if you like the player or not its the cap space he could create.

 

[BlackFrancis]

The Bruins have one player in the NHL's top 50 in expected high danger goals - Taylor Hall. This passes the eye test, as he's scored quite a few from in tight. They've got a bunch at the end of the top 100, but really no true garbage men aside from Hall.

Might be an area to look at solidifying. Acciari and someone like Bonino might fit, though those are low minute guys. The all-in option is Meier, for that reason, among many.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

The Bruins have one player in the NHL's top 50 in expected high danger goals - Taylor Hall. This passes the eye test, as he's scored quite a few from in tight. They've got a bunch at the end of the top 100, but really no true garbage men aside from Hall.

Might be an area to look at solidifying. Acciari and someone like Bonino might fit, though those are low minute guys. The all-in option is Meier, for that reason, among many.

You had me until "Acciari and Bonino"

 

[dugg133]

The Bruins have one player in the NHL's top 50 in expected high danger goals - Taylor Hall. This passes the eye test, as he's scored quite a few from in tight. They've got a bunch at the end of the top 100, but really no true garbage men aside from Hall.

Might be an area to look at solidifying. Acciari and someone like Bonino might fit, though those are low minute guys. The all-in option is Meier, for that reason, among many.

If Labanc is made available, a Bonino+Labanc package deal from the Sharks would be great imo. Gets a 4C upgrade, gets some much needed RW depth, and moves Freddy to the 4th line for even more depth.

 

[Kegs]

Horvat was my ideal pickup since we have no good C prospects once Berg and DK retire. Now that he is off the table I say hold firm and don't move anyone. Don't forget DK and Bergeron have bonuses that if we don't have the cap room this year they get moved to next years cap number. Not to mention Zacha and (hopefully) pasta getting a raise. We will have to offload quite a bit of cap this offseason.

Locmelis coming in hot

 

[Hookslide]

Lysell and lohrei probably.

Tell Donnie too make that trade NOW DAMM IT !!!!!!!

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Sounds like a pretty good LTIR chip

Might be worth it if cheap, but obviously very high risk. Don't really see where he is a match for out team needs

 

[Bmessy]

Does not look like all that reputable a site, but add Edmundson's name to the mix, I guess. As per Rob Ellis of mynhltrade rumors.com. He is a slightly better Forbort. I do not see the use of adding him.

I like him because he's a prick. Kinda hate him because he was a prick on STL in 2019.
How much more of an upgrade over Forbort would he be?

 

[wintersej]

I'm trying to put together what "Bruins are looking for term" and "Bruins are looking at LD", if true, could look like. So lets play a game called "the Bruins go after Chychrun".

1. I think dafoomie made a super super valid point about the Bruins having too much cap allocated in D. Probably about 5 million too much.
2. The Bruins have a lot of cap tied up on the left side with guys that are specialists / have holes in their game / are at least subject to much debate / are in Providence and not subject to much debate
3. They lack someone who can hammer the puck from the backend.
4. If you bring in Chychrun you are moving out two of Gryz, Carlo and Forbort and saving a couple million on the cap. You are still top 5 in spending on D, but you ain't number 1 anymore. Buying out Reilly in the offseason will help even more. With the teams goaltending costs going up next year (Swayman), Pasta's raise, and the Bergeron/Krejci bonuses, its going to be SUPER important to be able to try to carve out more money for the forward group. Like insanely important. The D cannot have so much money committed to it next year. Full stop. It won't work.

Chychrun - McAvoy
Lindholm - Carlo
Zboril - Clifton
Strahlman
Achan

I like that even when Clifton leaves as a UFA you are still pretty set. This will be an elite top 4, probably the best in the league, for half a decade. And by the time Chychrun needs his raise, the cap will be high enough for you to accommodate without killing your structure. Zboril and Achan can fight over who plays with some veteran RD in 2023-2024. I don't like that Zboril or Achan are in your top 6 in 2022-23... but maybe they just have to play 8-10 mins a game in the playoffs. Or maybe you can grab a cheap LD rental. Either way, its gonna be the Chicago model of playing your top 4D HEAVILY.

Chychrun - McAvoy
Lindholm - Clifton
One of Forbort/Gryz - Strahlman
Zboril

Talent more spread out. I would keep Gryz over Forbort and then kick myself when the PK explodes because both Forbort and Carlo are no longer on the team, so I understand the counter argument. The RD situation after this season is bleak.

I would think that Carlo is worth a 1st, Gryz a 2nd and Forbort a 3rd. Reilly you buy out next window. I think that the first scenario where you run an amazing top 4 and get by on million dollar depth is more appealing to me and I would keep Carlo.

You have to give up 1st + Lorhei (redundant) + one more significant piece to seal the deal for Chychrun. I would hope that last piece wasn't Lysell or the 2024 1st.

I dunno. Seems like it's all something you can deal with in the summer when you are gonna have to blow things up a bit anyway.

But, when I see "LD" and "term" I think these are the kind of conversations they are having. Although, maybe they are having them about Gavrikov with an extension in place, McCabe, Edmunson, Ekholm, ...whatever... instead of Chychrun.

edit: Do believe Ty Anderson said that jamie langenbrunner was out looking at Columbus last week so a little smoke there with Gavrikov more so than Chychrun.

 

[BlackFrancis]

I like him because he's a prick. Kinda hate him because he was a prick on STL in 2019.
How much more of an upgrade over Forbort would he be?

He was a pretty decent big, heavy D who could still move a couple years ago, before the fork got wedged squarely between his shoulder blades.

 

[quietbruinfan]

I'm trying to put together what "Bruins are looking for term" and "Bruins are looking at LD", if true, could look like. So lets play a game called "the Bruins go after Chychrun".

1. I think dafoomie made a super super valid point about the Bruins having too much cap allocated in D. Probably about 5 million too much.
2. The Bruins have a lot of cap tied up on the left side with guys that are specialists / have holes in their game / are at least subject to much debate / are in Providence and not subject to much debate
3. They lack someone who can hammer the puck from the backend.
4. If you bring in Chychrun you are moving out two of Gryz, Carlo and Forbort and saving a couple million on the cap. You are still top 5 in spending on D, but you ain't number 1 anymore. Buying out Reilly in the offseason will help even more. With the teams goaltending costs going up next year (Swayman), Pasta's raise, and the Bergeron/Krejci bonuses, its going to be SUPER important to be able to try to carve out more money for the forward group. Like insanely important. The D cannot have so much money committed to it next year. Full stop. It won't work.

Chychrun - McAvoy
Lindholm - Carlo
Zboril - Clifton
Strahlman
Achan

I like that even when Clifton leaves as a UFA you are still pretty set. This will be an elite top 4, probably the best in the league, for half a decade. And by the time Chychrun needs his raise, the cap will be high enough for you to accommodate without killing your structure. Zboril and Achan can fight over who plays with some veteran RD in 2023-2024. I don't like that Zboril or Achan are in your top 6 in 2022-23... but maybe they just have to play 8-10 mins a game in the playoffs. Or maybe you can grab a cheap LD rental. Either way, its gonna be the Chicago model of playing your top 4D HEAVILY.

Chychrun - McAvoy
Lindholm - Clifton
One of Forbort/Gryz - Strahlman
Zboril

Talent more spread out. I would keep Gryz over Forbort and then kick myself when the PK explodes because both Forbort and Carlo are no longer on the team, so I understand the counter argument. The RD situation after this season is bleak.

I would think that Carlo is worth a 1st, Gryz a 2nd and Forbort a 3rd. Reilly you buy out next window. I think that the first scenario where you run an amazing top 4 and get by on million dollar depth is more appealing to me and I would keep Carlo.

You have to give up 1st + Lorhei (redundant) + one more significant piece to seal the deal for Chychrun. I would hope that last piece wasn't Lysell or the 2024 1st.

I dunno. Seems like it's all something you can deal with in the summer when you are gonna have to blow things up a bit anyway.

But, when I see "LD" and "term" I think these are the kind of conversations they are having. Although, maybe they are having them about Gavrikov with an extension in place, McCabe, Edmunson, Ekholm, ...whatever... instead of Chychrun.

edit: Do believe Ty Anderson said that jamie langenbrunner was out looking at Columbus last week so a little smoke there with Gavrikov more so than Chychrun.

I do not like Chychrun's lack of d, never mind his injury history. There are other options, like Klingberg, to add offense especially to improve the pp. Money can always leave via a trade or two. In the long run, better keeping Lohrei is my guess. I like Gavrikov. He would be an upgrade on everyone through Carlo. I keep Grizz.

 

[wintersej]

I do not like Chychrun's lack of d, never mind his injury history. There are other options, like Klingberg, to add offense especially to improve the pp. Money can always leave via a trade or two. In the long run, better keeping Lohrei is my guess. I like Gavrikov. He would be an upgrade on everyone through Carlo. I keep Grizz.

Im not trying to advocate for Chychrun specifically, just trying to understand how going for a LD with term makes sense when they have so many LD already. I do think it’s hard to judge defensive play when you are on a team like AZ, though.