GDT: #21 - 11/19/18 | stars @ RANGERS | 7:00 - MSG

[NYR]

Shattenkirk leads the Rangers in shot differential, is second behind ADA in even strength +/-, and leads the Rangers in expected +/-.

Sure we would all like more points but he's not getting 1PP time, so

I'm @ happy hour buzzed and waiting for the game to start then I had to actually rub my eyes for a sec bcuz after reading this...I thought you actually posted the very elusive +/- sign??

This is huge news and could possibly be as big as the stat shredding video!! Lol

I thought +/- didn't matter??

While +/- is extremely relevant, #22 has been a 3rd pairing slug and I pray for the day this clown is off my team.

I wish I can sell this bridge I have for an extreme discount to JG

Zib, -5 with 3 ESG??

No opinion on that or just gets an automatic pass bcuz #Skillzz?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

A Yeti...

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Expect big time games from Mike Modano, Ed Belfour, and Derian Hatcher

Your stream man...

 

[romba]

It's a bit easier since I'm on vacation. Or as the Europeans call it, on holiday.

I was in Spain for a week last week on vaca and I managed to watch only 1 game, and only because I wasn’t able to sleep that night. Was really looking forward to an afternoon game but it wasn’t to be. All the power to ya!

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Who needs to play and develop young defensemen when you have Marc Staal?

I take it Zucc is still out?

This x100

The Rangers only have 2 defensemen with under 100 games each who are turning into top 4 regulars with Skjei out of the lineup who has under 200.

Total logjam. Thanks AV...

 

[FultonReed]

Re: Mangold, what does seeing that do for you? not being a jerk, I'm just trying to understand.

I mean, he was definitely bombed. it's the same as if someone else not famous was banging on the glass, heckling players. double bonus if the player heckles back. his credentials just make him a hero

 

[NYR]

From 2012-2017 he played the third most minutes on the Blues, with over 2,300 more minutes than the guy in fourth place.

He's literally never been a third-pairing defenseman. It's made up.

He is being deployed as exactly that right in front of your eyes.
What exactly is made up?

 

[Machinehead]

I'm @ happy hour buzzed and waiting for the game to start then I had to actually rub my eyes for a sec bcuz after reading this...I thought you actually posted the very elusive +/- sign??

This is huge news and could possibly be as big as the stat shredding video!! Lol

I thought +/- didn't matter??

While +/- is extremely relevant, #22 has been a 3rd pairing slug and I pray for the day this clown is off my team.

I wish I can sell this bridge I have for an extreme discount to JG

Zib, -5 with 3 ESG??

No opinion on that or just gets an automatic pass bcuz #Skillzz?

I'm using GF%, which I substituted for even strength +/-, because that's what it is, and is easier to understand that way.

Particularly over large samples, GF% can be very useful.

Traditional +/- is irrelevant, not because the concept of it is flawed, but because it's wildly inaccurate.

I mad a long post -I'll see if I can find it- about Leetch being -18 in 2000-01 by the traditional count. Meanwhile, his relative GF% was a ridiculously good +10.3.

So it's not that I'm not using +/-. I'm using better +/-.

 

[Jayan]

LGR

 

[Machinehead]

He is being deployed as exactly that right in front of your eyes.
What exactly is made up?

Again, factually incorrect.

He's 4th in ice time for the Rangers. He's right behind 3rd and 5th is nowhere near him.

That's a 2nd pair D.

 

[effen]

This x100

The Rangers only have 2 defensemen with under 100 games each who are turning into top 4 regulars with Skjei out of the lineup who has under 200.

Total logjam. Thanks AV...

Yes but if we're not getting everything we want at all times the coach is a moron.

 

[Ghost of jas]

No one cares, Gianonne.

 

[Machinehead]

Traditional +/-, for reasons humans will never understand, counts shorthanded goals.

Zibanejad plays a ton of PP. That means he's already -9 sitting in his house in July.

 

[will1066]

Your stream man...

It's going to be slow

 

[will1066]

I was in Spain for a week last week on vaca and I managed to watch only 1 game, and only because I wasn’t able to sleep that night. Was really looking forward to an afternoon game but it wasn’t to be. All the power to ya!

I'm gonna try at least haha

 

[NYR]

I'm using GF%, which I substituted for even strength +/-, because that's what it is, and is easier to understand that way.

Particularly over large samples, GF% can be very useful.

Traditional +/- is irrelevant not because the concept of it is flawed, but because it's wildly inaccurate.

I mad a long post -I'll see if I can find it- about Leetch being -18 in 2000-01 by the traditional count. Meanwhile, his relative GF% was a ridiculously good +10.3.

So it's not that I'm not using +/-. I'm using better +/-.

OK that's fair and while I still feel +/- is relevant, how about we address the elephant in the room since nobody else will and I know you for the most part likes to keep it real.

Zib has (3), THREE! 5v5 goals over 20 games is a huge problem for me but all I read on here is how he's mysteriously is talked about as if he's a top 10 center in this league..

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

This game should help keep me sane while I wait for chiefs rams

 

[Machinehead]

OK that's fair and while I still feel +/- is relevant, how about we address the elephant in the room since nobody else will and I know you for the most part likes to keep it real.

Zib has (3), THREE! 5v5 goals over 20 games is a huge problem for me but all I read on here is how he's mysteriously is talked about as if he's a top 10 center in this league..

No, I'm not letting you change the subject.

Admit I'm right about Shattenkirk in this instance and we can talk about Zibanejad.

 

[Good Intentions]

No one cares, Gianonne.

He needs to go.

I can’t stand his voice, the period intermission monologues are awkward, and his postgame questions are brutal.

 

[Killem Dafoe]

Feeling like this will be a high scoring game. LGR

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

It's going to be slow

You up to the toe in the crease part of the Dallas game yet?

Just tap the “Go Live” button on the stream on your Compaq Palm Pilot.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

 

[NYR]

No, I'm not letting you change the subject.

Admit I'm right about Shattenkirk in this instance and we can talk about Zibanejad.

Bro..He should be on the top pairing and excelling in order to justify the contract he signed so I can't agree.
He's beyond the injury excuse and has been playing this way for years.
#DamagedGoods
IMO

 

[Thirty One]

Traditional +/-, for reasons humans will never understand, counts shorthanded goals.

Zibanejad plays a ton of PP. That means he's already -9 sitting in his house in July.

Empty net goals is the true crazy in +/-

 

[Thirty One]

Aren't those the exact top two lines from last game, Les?