dahrougem2
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"He uhhh... he had a sleep disorder and uhhh.... a sprained nose... yeah!"Trading Nuke is going to be super awkward when the other GM asks what his injury was.
"He uhhh... he had a sleep disorder and uhhh.... a sprained nose... yeah!"Trading Nuke is going to be super awkward when the other GM asks what his injury was.
Yeah I’d be ok with either signing him long term to those dollars, or do the one year arbitration thing since his case wouldn’t be very good.Drury is a nice player, but he believes he’s a 3C and wants to be paid like one.
What’s your solution?
Do you want to take him to arbitration, accept the 1 year deal and let him walk as a UFA next summer? I don’t.
Do you want to give him $3.5m-$3.75m AAV on a long-term deal? I don’t. He’s a 25 point forward who is usually an offensive black hole.
Given our cap situation and the unlikelihood of moving other guys, I would prefer to trade his RFA rights and recoup some assets.
Neither make sense. Trading Coyle last year lead to the Avs overpaying for Roy this year.It makes sense to move Nelson this summer like it made sense to move Coyle last summer.
Improperly diagnosed sleeping treatment."He uhhh... he had a sleep disorder and uhhh.... a sprained nose... yeah!"
I legit think he got injured sometime in February/March. What we saw in the playoffs from Nelson was the same as we saw down the stretch of the season.I believe more in the guy who actually produced in the playoffs than the guy who for 20 games has looked like he's scared of his own shadow
It's just way, wayyyyyy to large of a sample size to ignore at this point. Ask @Avs_19 how much I defended Nelson all year. I can't do it anymore. Not when you put up zero goals in 20 playoff games on a goalie. That's ineptitude not even 4th liners struggle through.I legit think he got injured sometime in February/March. What we saw in the playoffs from Nelson was the same as we saw down the stretch of the season.
I think people who criticize Nelson’s play in the 2025 playoffs however are out to lunch. Yes he was snakebitten but he was a force out there. I thought Nelson/Nuke/Landy were the Avs best line against Dallas last year but just couldn’t find the back of the net.
I’m not denying that he sucked in the playoffs. I’m just saying he’s proven he’s capable. I don’t think Father Time can show itself that drastically, that sudden. If it has, I’m completely on your side of the argument.
If Islanders fans saw posts over here they’d be wondering wtf is going on lol.It's just way, wayyyyyy to large of a sample size to ignore at this point. Ask @Avs_19 how much I defended Nelson all year. I can't do it anymore. Not when you put up zero goals in 20 playoff games on a goalie. That's ineptitude not even 4th liners struggle through.
I thought he was more than fine in the regular season, but playoffs clearly showed a guy who cannot put the puck in the back of the net when it matters. Kadri, meanwhile, may not look as strong during the season but when it matters he showed he could at least somewhat produce.
We aren't changing coaches unfortunately so I have no reason to believe Nelson will magically start scoring in the playoffs next season.
If Islanders fans saw posts over here they’d be wondering wtf is going on lol.
It’s fair for you to feel the way you do. I agree 20 games is a large sample size. But the guy also has a pretty good sample size of being a playoff monster. He’s also coming off a season of 33 goals and a Selke nomination. His analytics in both playoff runs with the Avs are also phenomenal. I just feel there’s a whole lot more pointing to what he’s likely to deliver than what he’s shown in those 20 games, as shitty as they were.
To be fair, there is a real possibility that the season catches up with him towards the end. If that’s the case, maybe poor results is what we should continue to expect for him. I’m going to do some digging on his first half/second half splits out of curiosity.I don't think this post takes into account the age-based regression between 161 years old and 166 years old
And that is a significant concern about this team in general. Old teams just don’t have the legs going through the playoffs to win cups and the Avs were what, the oldest or one of the oldest last year.To be fair, there is a real possibility that the season catches up with him towards the end. If that’s the case, maybe poor results is what we should continue to expect for him. I’m going to do some digging on his first half/second half splits out of curiosity.
If Islanders fans saw posts over here they’d be wondering wtf is going on lol.
It’s fair for you to feel the way you do. I agree 20 games is a large sample size. But the guy also has a pretty good sample size of being a playoff monster. He’s also coming off a season of 33 goals and a Selke nomination. His analytics in both playoff runs with the Avs are also phenomenal. I just feel there’s a whole lot more pointing to what he’s likely to deliver than what he’s shown in those 20 games, as shitty as they were.
The western conference final was the 2 oldest teams in the league.And that is a significant concern about this team in general. Old teams just don’t have the legs going through the playoffs to win cups and the Avs were what, the oldest or one of the oldest last year.
If Islanders fans saw posts over here they’d be wondering wtf is going on lol.
It’s fair for you to feel the way you do. I agree 20 games is a large sample size. But the guy also has a pretty good sample size of being a playoff monster. He’s also coming off a season of 33 goals and a Selke nomination. His analytics in both playoff runs with the Avs are also phenomenal. I just feel there’s a whole lot more pointing to what he’s likely to deliver than what he’s shown in those 20 games, as shitty as they were.
Can you pull last playoffs for comparison?They aren't; his analytics were just as bad as his performance. Both on Ice and Individual, he was near the bottom of pretty much every category, along with the other players who stunk to high heavens this postseason (Malinski, Nichushkin, etc.). 51% CF%, 43% GF, 48% xGF, 48% SCF%, 43% HDCF%.
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Everyone keeps bringing up the All Three Zones/J Fresh "chances contributions" stuff. The chances they're measuring are high danger shot attempts. Indeed, Nelson had numerous good looks this postseason. Most of them were blocked or missed the net (only 14 shots on 34 Corsi attempts (41%) at 5v5 - way below his 58% in the regular season). He should not be praised for this.
How’d that work out for Vegas?The western conference final was the 2 oldest teams in the league.
Can you pull last playoffs for comparison?
Still dont think we move Nuke:
Lehky - Mack - Necas
Landy - Nelson - Brindley
Roy - Kadri - Nuke
LOC - Hughes - Kelly
Toews - Makar
???? - Malinski
???? - Manson
Gagne
Woods
Drury goes for a depth Dman + pick, remain8ng cap space is used on another Dman.
That remaining cap space though is like 3 million. That’s not going to buy shit on the free agent market this year. And I’m not sure what can be done on the trade market with what we have.Still dont think we move Nuke:
Lehky - Mack - Necas
Landy - Nelson - Brindley
Roy - Kadri - Nuke
LOC - Hughes - Kelly
Toews - Makar
???? - Malinski
???? - Manson
Gagne
Woods
Drury goes for a depth Dman + pick, remain8ng cap space is used on another Dman.
I stand corrected. Saw wrong data.How’d that work out for Vegas?
I think we trade for a guy like Siegenthaler.That remaining cap space though is like 3 million. That’s not going to buy shit on the free agent market this year. And I’m not sure what can be done on the trade market with what we have.
I think we trade for a guy like Siegenthaler.
Even he makes too much for the roster you posted.
Sieg - $3.4m
Remaining - $700k
You can’t even ice a legal roster.
Please understand that Nichushkin is a dead man walking. Just a matter of time until he gets traded.