But what about Brindley? Surely he has top 10 value as well, right?And the Sharks 9th. Byram had way more value around the league than we all thought.

But what about Brindley? Surely he has top 10 value as well, right?And the Sharks 9th. Byram had way more value around the league than we all thought.

Add in Kotkaniemi to center them, and you have the ultimate trio of Finnish underachieversPulju with Kakko on the new look fourth line.
Kekäläinen got Drury and Davidson into a bidding war. Can't think of a better situation for Buffalo and the results speak for themselves.So the Rags' 5th OA pick was on the table for Byram?
We could have had Necas for under this number, but CMac didn't want to pull the trigger in the summer and instead waited for Necas to score a bazillion goals in the first 20 games or so before signingTuch making 1m less than Necas in ridiculous
At least Laine and Pulju had top tier talent. Kotkaniemi going so high baffled even us Finns. Same with Juolevi before him. NHL teams definitely have big blind spots in their scouting in Europe. Wouldn't surprise me if they only see some of these guys play at the WJC.Add in Kotkaniemi to center them, and you have the ultimate trio of Finnish underachievers
Thanks for writing this up, I was thinking the same thing. Like, I remember being relieved that we got in the Byram trade before the next concussion forced his retirementIts fair to be critical of the Byram trade we made, especially given how Mittelstadt worked out for us...
But I think theres a pretty significant factor not being discussed enough on Byram in this little circle right now... Which is that his value has likely increased quite substantially from when we traded him.
The year we traded him, he had a career high of 24 points in a season, and in his 3 full seasons with the Avs, had played just a total of 91 regular season games to that point. The concussions were a major concern. Remember there was plenty of conversation back then about him being 1 more bad hit away from retirement.
But since that trade, hes basically put those concerns to rest. He played 73 games the year we traded him, and has played very single possible game since then as well.
So now he's basically proven to be fully healthy... And while I still think he's quite overrated(As evidence by some of the delusion from the randoms posting in this thread the last couple of days), he's certainly a legit Top 4D for sure and still young enough for teams to believe theres more upside in his game as well.
So, certainly the Mittelstadt deal worked out terribly for us, in hindsight its probably the worst trade CMac ever made for us. But Byram is a different player today then he was with us and his value is different in very large part because he's been able to stay healthy and drop those injury concerns from 3 years ago.
Necas held all the cards. He knew the team had just traded a franchise player for him and wouldn't want to lose him.We could have had Necas for under this number, but CMac didn't want to pull the trigger in the summer and instead waited for Necas to score a bazillion goals in the first 20 games or so before signing
I think if they had held onto Coyle rather than throwing even more assets into Nelson then the Byram trade doesn't get so much hate.Its fair to be critical of the Byram trade we made, especially given how Mittelstadt worked out for us...
But I think theres a pretty significant factor not being discussed enough on Byram in this little circle right now... Which is that his value has likely increased quite substantially from when we traded him.
The year we traded him, he had a career high of 24 points in a season, and in his 3 full seasons with the Avs, had played just a total of 91 regular season games to that point. The concussions were a major concern. Remember there was plenty of conversation back then about him being 1 more bad hit away from retirement.
But since that trade, hes basically put those concerns to rest. He played 73 games the year we traded him, and has played very single possible game since then as well.
So now he's basically proven to be fully healthy... And while I still think he's quite overrated(As evidence by some of the delusion from the randoms posting in this thread the last couple of days), he's certainly a legit Top 4D for sure and still young enough for teams to believe theres more upside in his game as well.
So, certainly the Mittelstadt deal worked out terribly for us, in hindsight its probably the worst trade CMac ever made for us. But Byram is a different player today then he was with us and his value is different in very large part because he's been able to stay healthy and drop those injury concerns from 3 years ago.
In the vast majority of draft boards, Kotkaniemi was supposed to go around 8-15. The only reason he jumped so much was that Montreal desperately wanted a center, and he was literally the best one available. It was all wingers and D at the top of the 2018 draft.At least Laine and Pulju had top tier talent. Kotkaniemi going so high baffled even us Finns. Same with Juolevi before him. NHL teams definitely have big blind spots in their scouting in Europe. Wouldn't surprise me if they only see some of these guys play at the WJC.
I think if they had held onto Coyle rather than throwing even more assets into Nelson then the Byram trade doesn't get so much hate.
Coyle is bigger younger and built for the playoffs and put up almost 60 points last year.
But the past is the past.
The future is Kakko and Carlo. They have the youth and bigness that the Avs need.
SanheimIf I was in charge of the Sharks I'd call up CBJ and offer that 2nd overall pick for Werenski.
They honestly could offer all their 2026 1st rounders (#2, #9, #27) IF Werenski would verbally accept to re-up thereIf I was in charge of the Sharks I'd call up CBJ and offer that 2nd overall pick for Werenski.
I don't believe they have any intention of drafting at #9.You figure Buffalo has got to turn around some of these draft picks and get immediate roster help. They've gotten crazy good value out of their trades, but on paper their roster is much weaker than how they ended their season.
Do they have 9 or 4, I’ve lost track?I don't believe they have any intention of drafting at #9.