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Speculation: 2026-27 Trade/FA thread - Waiting for the SCF to be over….

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Except the two players we're adding are more integral than a scoring winger. Its certainly a win now move but it also sets the team up nicely for 4+ years with cost certainty which is huge when you're giving extensions to guys like Leo, Cutter and Beckett

Highly doubt McTavish, McQueen, and Minty will cost more over the next four years.
 
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Either one. Not both.



Their SH TOI aren't comparable.

Regular season:
- Mintyukov 163:02
- Zellweger 65:52

Playoffs:
- Mintyukov 28:48
- Zellweger 3:00
Imo you're hoping either ones of McTavish or McQueen turns into a solid 2 way 2c. Thomas IS one. We'd only control. McQueen for 7 years. Thomas is signed for what 5 more years? So we're giving up 2 years on the back end for 1-3 years in the front end guaranteed by having Thomas now rather than waiting to see if the other 2 can figure it out. We lose depth sure but depth in the bottom 6 is a bit easier to acquire than top 6.

As for the pk time you're right. Minty was used as a #1LD vs Zelly as a #2 based on pk time per game. Id say minty had limited success in that role. More in the regular season than the playoffs. Im not saying Zelly is better than minty just the downgrade from minty to zelly is probably less than the upgrade from helleson to Parayko.
 
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That is a GAHD DAMN trade if I ever seen one.

Thomas AND Parayko? Sign me up. I’m really hesitant on trading Mintyukov though. McTavish, McQueen, and Luneau would’ve probably tipped it over too. I don’t know what McQueens offensive ceiling is, and people are so eager to throw Luneau in when he hasn’t had a real true chance.

It’s pretty funny actually, didn’t St Louis have a bit of a streak going and they played better after the trade deadline?
 
Highly doubt McTavish, McQueen, and Minty will cost more over the next four years.
Well minty is likely going to get a brdge deal this summer that means his long term deal could easily be 8+ in 2-3 years if he keeps growing like we expect. If mcqueen hits like we want what's his next deal. Beckett is looking at a significant raise after his ELC ends. Probably similar to cutter. I think it's very easy for those guys to end up costing more than Thomas and Parayko do right now.
 
Imo you're hoping either ones of McTavish or McQueen turns into a solid 2 way 2c. Thomas IS one. We'd only control. McQueen for 7 years. Thomas is signed for what 5 more years? So we're giving up 2 years on the back end for 1-3 years in the front end guaranteed by having Thomas now rather than waiting to see if the other 2 can figure it out. We lose depth sure but depth in the bottom 6 is a bit easier to acquire than top 6.

As for the pk time you're right. Minty was used as a #1LD vs Zelly as a #2 based on pk time per game. Id say minty had limited success in that role. More in the regular season than the playoffs. Im not saying Zelly is better than minty just the downgrade from minty to zelly is probably less than the upgrade from helleson to Parayko.
3 years of ELC. + max contract of 8 years for McQueen, if Anaheim wanted. 11 years vs 5, not 7.
 
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If our window truly is open you have to wonder if Hellyebuck is someone verbeek takes a look at .

If he’s after paryako no reason he wouldnt consider Hellyebuck. In addition goalies tend to play well far into their thirties. Schiefle is also another interesting name that would nake a great 2C. Wonder if he’s tired of losing in WPG. Jets had interest in McTavish also
 
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If our window truly is open you have to wonder if Hellyebuck is someone verbeek takes a look at .

If he’s after paryako no reason he wouldnt consider Hellyebuck. In addition goalies tend to play well far into their thirties. Schiefle is also another interesting name that would nake a great 2C. Wonder if he’s tired of losing in WPG. Jets had interest in McTavish also
I dont think we have the cap space to add another top goalie.
 
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If our window truly is open you have to wonder if Hellyebuck is someone verbeek takes a look at .

If he’s after paryako no reason he wouldnt consider Hellyebuck. In addition goalies tend to play well far into their thirties. Schiefle is also another interesting name that would nake a great 2C. Wonder if he’s tired of losing in WPG. Jets had interest in McTavish also
I would definitely try to get Hellyebuck or atleast substantially improve our backup goalie situation and lower Dostals work load
 
After the Carlson trade, I’m convinced Verbeek has the marbles to make something big happen. Especially after they got to Game 6 in Round 2, on bad goaltending.
Our division seems to be weakening. Given the playoff format i think Anaheim should be aggressive. Look how close we were to the WCF and how the injury to Makar massively impacted things.

That being said I dont want to see Anaheim overpaying for B and C players that's how you get yourself stuck and in trouble
 
We had a team with a center on a broken leg, a center who missed serious time after the Olympic brake, and their 3C and 4C going out in the first few games take us to 6 games.

We are still seriously flawed.
And we took a relatively healthy Vegas team to 6 games. I think we can all agree defense is this teams biggest weakness and add Thomas and Parayko makes us significantly better in that regard, not that the trade is even still available.
 
And we took a relatively healthy Vegas team to 6 games. I think we can all agree defense is this teams biggest weakness and add Thomas and Parayko makes us significantly better in that regard, not that the trade is even still available.
Stone on one leg came back in and we did not look like a team that belonged there. Utah also took them to 6.

I agree that is a trade that makes us better, but I also think it dramatically shortens our cup window if we give up those pieces. I don’t think we can afford those pieces regardless (Cap-wise).
 
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Stone on one leg came back in and we did not look like a team that belonged there. Utah also took them to 6.

I agree that is a trade that makes us better, but I also think it dramatically shortens our cup window if we give up those pieces. I don’t think we can afford those pieces regardless (Cap-wise).
Agree to disagree. I think we'll be lucky if any of those pieces we give up get to the level of the players we would be getting.
 
If our window truly is open you have to wonder if Hellyebuck is someone verbeek takes a look at .

If he’s after paryako no reason he wouldnt consider Hellyebuck. In addition goalies tend to play well far into their thirties. Schiefle is also another interesting name that would nake a great 2C. Wonder if he’s tired of losing in WPG. Jets had interest in McTavish also
Hellebyuck only works when the team puts a very structured defense in front of him, if teams break down the D and can scream in on him, he caves, evidenced by the Jets Avs series. He thought he played well in that round.

It would require a complete overhaul of the defense and the defensive structure to get Hellebyuck to work. We'd frankly be better off with our current system getting Gibson back.
 
Agree to disagree. I think we'll be lucky if any of those pieces we give up get to the level of the players we would be getting.
Adding those two and subtracting Mctavish leaves 31,148,395 for Cap space.

10 forwards signed including Thomas.
Defense consisting of LaCombe, Parayko, Helleson, and Luneau.

Carlsson and Gauthier are not signing for the 9-11M people keep wishlisting here.

Like I said, regardless of whether or not the team works, and for how long, the Cap will make us worse next year.
 
We had a team with a center on a broken leg, a center who missed serious time after the Olympic brake, and their 3C and 4C going out in the first few games take us to 6 games.

We are still seriously flawed.

Picking up a prime, top end 2C and a legitimate shutdown RD takes care of the two largest flaws.
 

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