2025 WJC

[John Agar]

These figures are always a couple of years behind so it's only up to 2022 but it looks like the federal government held the line from 2009 to 2020 in terms of the debt to GDP ratio. Then there was a sharp spike during the pandemic (due to both increased spending and decreased GDP). Things look to be settling down, but there are all kinds of shenanigans happening as the current regime is in its death throes.

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Targeted analytics again... two years left out...

I can hardly wait for a new team in Ottawa...

As do many Canadians...

It's not political... it's personal now...

Many people of all stripes in Canada suffering...

And I am one of the lucky ones... well off... no threat to me...

But you just go on explaining away...

 

[cbcwpg]

After reading pages from economics majors trying to justify Canada's poor showing as a money problem, and after watching the CAN / US game....

Canada's problem is they filled the team with morons who can't help themselves from taking stupid penalties.

4 GP - 29 minors

 

[sipowicz]

Yeah, I guess all the services the government provides should be funded by Santa Claus.

I pay 17% for fed taxes here in the US and even with my $200 a month health insurance bill i still paid $4000 out of pocket wren I got appendicitis and that's without an appendectomy.

I can't believe people are so gullible as to belive what the wealthy are feeding them -- that it's the government's fault.

Take a look at c suite Execs salaries, shareholder dividends, corporate profits and the astronomically growing gap between the top 5% and the rest of the population.

These are all facts and hard data, they cannot be argued.

Yes, the government should be more efficient and less wasteful, but the reason practically every developed economy in the world is a shit show for average citizens is greed.

Eat the rich.

You sure are not taxed on after tax income when purchasing anything like here in Canada, heck we even get taxed on a tax when purchasing fuel in a Canada as the goods and services tax (GST) is even applied to the fuel carbon tax

After reading pages from economics majors trying to justify Canada's poor showing as a money problem, and after watching the CAN / US game....

Canada's problem is they filled the team with morons who can't help themselves from taking stupid penalties.

4 GP - 29 minors

Undisciplined entitled bunch, speaks volumes about Canada itself right now!

 

[bustamente]

I bet the Toronto media is shocked that Cowan has not dominated this tourney, maybe tone down the next great player shit because he does very well in Junior hockey

 

[jetdiehard]

Rather ridiculous the amount of penalties every game obviously the coach has no control of the players.
They can start by getting new coaches and possibly upper management.

 

[Bender Duster]

A couple days late to the conversation on the previous page, but for what it’s worth, yes, hockey is ridiculously expensive in Canada, but it’s actually more expensive to play on competitive teams in the US.

It’s the industry of the sport (and basically all kids activities these days) driving this, not politics.

 

[Buffdog]

Great pass by Yager on the PP. Nice to see him get player of the game

Cowen is not only not dominating, he's outright hurting the team. Leafs fans must be pissed, which warms my heart

Also, "Freebird" is an amazing goal song lol

 

[John Agar]

I bet the Toronto media is shocked that Cowan has not dominated this tourney, maybe tone down the next great player shit because he does very well in Junior hockey

And one of the most undisciplined players on that team...

 

[voyageur]

Great pass by Yager on the PP. Nice to see him get player of the game

Cowen is not only not dominating, he's outright hurting the team. Leafs fans must be pissed, which warms my heart

Also, "Freebird" is an amazing goal song lol

I was impressed by Cal Ritchie and Buium as our competitors prospects.

 

[surixon]

After reading pages from economics majors trying to justify Canada's poor showing as a money problem, and after watching the CAN / US game....

Canada's problem is they filled the team with morons who can't help themselves from taking stupid penalties.

4 GP - 29 minors

Rather ridiculous the amount of penalties every game obviously the coach has no control of the players.
They can start by getting new coaches and possibly upper management.

Yup, when a team stays this undisciplined through all 4 games the coach clearly can't control his players.

 

[10Ducky10]

I pay 17% for fed taxes here in the US and even with my $200 a month health insurance bill i still paid $4000 out of pocket wren I got appendicitis and that's without an appendectomy.

I can't believe people are so gullible as to belive what the wealthy are feeding them -- that it's the government's fault.

Take a look at c suite Execs salaries, shareholder dividends, corporate profits and the astronomically growing gap between the top 5% and the rest of the population.

These are all facts and hard data, they cannot be argued.

Yes, the government should be more efficient and less wasteful, but the reason practically every developed economy in the world is a shit show for average citizens is greed.

Eat the rich.

What cost 4000?

 

[Heldig]

Great pass by Yager on the PP. Nice to see him get player of the game

Cowen is not only not dominating, he's outright hurting the team. Leafs fans must be pissed, which warms my heart

Also, "Freebird" is an amazing goal song lol

Nope. It seems it is only Leaf haters dissing Cowan 'cause he is a Leaf prospect.

 

[Buffdog]

Nope. It seems it is only Leaf haters dissing Cowan 'cause he is a Leaf prospect.

In my case, there's definitely an element of that lol

 

[Gm0ney]

Targeted analytics again... two years left out...

I can hardly wait for a new team in Ottawa...

As do many Canadians...

It's not political... it's personal now...

Many people of all stripes in Canada suffering...

And I am one of the lucky ones... well off... no threat to me...

But you just go on explaining away...

Yes, the deficit has been ramping up again the last couple of years that aren't on that chart. Higher interest rates, some one time expenses, a desperate government flailing around doing dumb stuff.

Canada's problem - which it shares with most western nations - is that we subsidize demand but restrict supply. So it's very expensive and difficult to build stuff (houses, infrastructure) but we're always goosing demand with low interest rates and tax shelters (like FHSA). And you know what happens when you have high demand and low supply - Hockey Canada decides to build a junior team designed to compete with the 74 Flyers...

 

[Jet]

What cost 4000?

ER time, meds. It's obscene

You sure are not taxed on after tax income when purchasing anything like here in Canada

That's objectively false.

 

[Jet]

A couple days late to the conversation on the previous page, but for what it’s worth, yes, hockey is ridiculously expensive in Canada, but it’s actually more expensive to play on competitive teams in the US.

It’s the industry of the sport (and basically all kids activities these days) driving this, not politics.

Yup, sport is pay for play, and hockey is one of the most expensive to play.

 

[Bob E]

Canada typically has high drafted players in this tournament and the skill level is apparent. Not so much this year. Catton is the highest drafted player, though McKenna, Martone and Schaefer will be drafted very high in coming drafts. But when you don't include players like Sennecke, Misa, Yakemchuk or Parekh then you are really limiting your skill on the team. Its showing, and players who can not create offense get frustrated and take stupid penalties.

Biggest flop has to be Cowan. Poor effort on most shifts in most situations.

Ritchie is also playing outside his ability as the 1C on a WJC team, and there are just too many passengers on the bottom two lines. And Cameron, maybe alter your lines a bit when its obvious that there just isn't much chemistry amongst the players. Only Catton and McKenna seem to be generating offence consistently, but don't play as much as Cameron and co need to have Ritchie and Cowan out there every 2nd or 3rd shift.

 

[snowkiddin]

Cowen is not only not dominating, he's outright hurting the team. Leafs fans must be pissed, which warms my heart

They are not. I commented in the game thread last night after his giveaway for the empty net goal that he should’ve been stapled to the bench after his selfish penalty.

I was met by a series of retorts saying they can’t bench him because they were trying to catch up, and that people are only complaining about him because he’s a Leafs prospect. Seems like a great many of them believe Cowan is Canada’s best player.

 

[snowkiddin]

Yup, when a team stays this undisciplined through all 4 games the coach clearly can't control his players.

Ha, yeah, Cameron said in his post-game scrum that there’s nothing he can do to stop the parade to the penalty box, the players have to figure it out, and the tournament is too short to bench players for poor performance.

Hopefully this is the last we see of this jackass behind the bench, and even more so, hopefully Hockey Canada just goes back to stacking teams instead of obsessing over “playing the right way.”!

 

[WolfHouse]

Oh right i forgot, Yager sucks , won't amount to shit and.......

Thats better

 

[Gil Fisher]

You sure are not taxed on after tax income when purchasing anything like here in Canada, heck we even get taxed on a tax when purchasing fuel in a Canada as the goods and services tax (GST) is even applied to the fuel carbon tax


Undisciplined entitled bunch, speaks volumes about Canada itself right now!

oh sip, there's a quiver in my loins.

 

[Mud Turtle]

It’s interesting that Kieren Walton has a better points per game average this year (on a low scoring team) than so many players on Team Canada and many who were overlooked.

Sennecke
Iginla
Catton
Cowan
Luchanko
Gauthier
Pinelli
Yager
Howe
Beaudoin
Cataford


And so many others.

 

[Jet]

Ha, yeah, Cameron said in his post-game scrum that there’s nothing he can do to stop the parade to the penalty box, the players have to figure it out, and the tournament is too short to bench players for poor performance.

Hopefully this is the last we see of this jackass behind the bench, and even more so, hopefully Hockey Canada just goes back to stacking teams instead of obsessing over “playing the right way.”!

Yeah they got wayyyyy to f'in cute with this roster.

Pick the 23 best Canadians, and hope they gel. In a short tourney like this elite talent can outscore problems.

The US has now and will for all time usurp us as the most powerful hockey nation in terms of producing talent. They've passed us in registrations and that gap is only going to grow, for a few reasons:

A> Canada's population is diversifying and many of the new residents have sports like soccer, cricket, basketball as their go to's. Of course, many of these immigrants will embrace hockey and eventually start feeding the system.

B> Hockey is too f***ing expensive, but Americans are in a better spot than Canadians (which is shocking because shit is too expensive down here).

C> Hockey continues to grow based on the NHL's expansion and this will only continue.

D> Sheer population

 

[Buffdog]

Yeah they got wayyyyy to f'in cute with this roster.

Pick the 23 best Canadians, and hope they gel. In a short tourney like this elite talent can outscore problems.

The US has now and will for all time usurp us as the most powerful hockey nation in terms of producing talent. They've passed us in registrations and that gap is only going to grow, for a few reasons:

A> Canada's population is diversifying and many of the new residents have sports like soccer, cricket, basketball as their go to's. Of course, many of these immigrants will embrace hockey and eventually start feeding the system.

B> Hockey is too f***ing expensive, but Americans are in a better spot than Canadians (which is shocking because shit is too expensive down here).

C> Hockey continues to grow based on the NHL's expansion and this will only continue.

D> Sheer population

This is anecdotal, but I feel like hockey increasing in cost affects the game in Canada more than in the states.

When I lived in Georgia, every car in the parking lot at the arena was a BMW or Mercedes SUV. It's very much a white collar sport in lots of markets. The average family with kids who play down there is generally more well off than the average hockey family up here so the cost increase is likely less of a factor for them

Edit: That said, the best natural athletes in the States are less likely to play hockey vs thr best athletes in Canada, which gives us a bit of an advantage

 

[cbcwpg]

Watching SWE vs LAT.... looks like there is only one team on the ice.