2025 WJC Discussion

[Giovi]

They’ve been hyping up this point streak he apparently has in the OHL. But his numbers are honestly not that impressive. Certainly nothing that screams superstar. And he turns the puck over way too much to be a defensively responsible middle sixer.

He's a Leafs draft pick so the Canadian media is bowing to his magnificence.

 

[ClydeLee]

Wasn't Cowan a joke and a disaster of guy given way too much time last year?

 

[clydesdale line]

Bolland's hands weren't anything special either. He relied on his hockey sense, bite and tenacity to be effective.

His hands are better than Moore's hands which was my point. I've seen enough fumbled pucks from Moore receiving passes or stick handling the past 2 years to see that.

 

[CallMeShaft]

If Moore hits, he's more likely in that Danault/Vermette type of player. Middle six, 200ft C with wheels.

 

[TLEH]

Guys bust at the 10ish pick range all the time. Going back to an earlier post of yours, I don’t see why it makes it a bad pick or reach.

Trust our scouting department until that give us reason to doubt them.

Sure. I never said it was a bad pick. But they were trying to trade up for him at 10. You don’t do that for a guy you think is a 3C. Pick 10 would have been a bad pick for Moore in my opinion.

Our scouting department is jury out.

 

[clydesdale line]

This Czechia team is very good. Sure they're beating up on a very less talented Kazakhstan team, but that team is legit.

Felcman has an assist in the game.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Only one second assist for Felcman when the Czechs scored 14 in the game if we need a new prospect to fret over.

 

[clydesdale line]

Danny Nelson scores for USA. I was high on him in the draft. Still wish Kyle and the staff would've picked him with one of our 2nd rounders in that draft.

 

[Styles]

Would you be happy paying JT Compher $28M over 5 years? Which 3C UFA contract would you be happy with from last year.

Roughly 1/3 of late 1st rounders bust, and a bunch of others just hang on and don't really contribute. Getting a top9 F or top4D is a huge win IMO.

That’s a bit of an extreme case of a bad contract. Not many teams pay that for a 3C. If you are in the be 3-4M range I think that’s fine. Maybe more AAV with less term like Dickinson.

 

[Pez68]

Team USA is just so structured. It seems like they always have the puck.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

There’s no point predicting how prospects will do based on WJC. It has very little bearing on their futures.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

That’s a bit of an extreme case of a bad contract. Not many teams pay that for a 3C. If you are in the be 3-4M range I think that’s fine. Maybe more AAV with less term like Dickinson.

IMO, Dickenson was a dumpster dive reclamation project. Obviously not a bad player who was awesome last year, but most years not a 3C on a legitimate contender.

I 100% believe the Hawks thought that Moore had 2C potential. Who knows, he still might. IMO, if he tops out as a good #3C, I still consider that a win.

 

[MTU34]

Team USA is just so structured. It seems like they always have the puck.

Two words: David Carle

There’s no point predicting how prospects will do based on WJC. It has very little bearing on their futures.

As an example of this: Cole Caufield was absolutely crucified for his performances at his two tournaments. Look at him now

 

[clydesdale line]

Height be damned... James Hagens is legit. I would love for the Hawks to get him. What is underrated about him is the kid has legit bite to his game.

 

[Pez68]

Two words: David Carle


As an example of this: Cole Caufield was absolutely crucified for his performances at his two tournaments. Look at him now

Their roster construction is also really good. Probably helps that most of these kids have played in the USNTDP for years.

These shot totals are totally flattering for Latvia. This really hasn't been a close game.

Filthy backhand by Nelson.

 

[MTU34]

Height be damned... James Hagens is legit. I would love for the Hawks to get him. What is underrated about him is the kid has legit bite to his game.

The brain is so incredible. Complete understanding of all 200 feet of ice

 

[Pez68]

The brain is so incredible. Complete understanding of all 200 feet of ice

The few mistakes made are because his teammates aren't thinking on the same level. Lol

Kid clearly has an incredible hockey IQ.

 

[Pez68]

How did Canada lose to this Latvia team? Lol

 

[ello]

Cole Hutson is literally a clone of his brother. Utter control over the flow of the game offensively. Shouldve just drafted him with a second, he can fill the role that we're hoping KK fills

 

[ClydeLee]

Cole Hutson is literally a clone of his brother. Utter control over the flow of the game offensively. Shouldve just drafted him with a second, he can fill the role that we're hoping KK fills

Is he a nightmare or just in a lack of care defensively like his brother? Because that's the makeup you can't live with in a top 4 dman if you want to be a contender.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

When I listen to people who have watched Moore play the first person that pops into my mind is Athanasiou.

Is that unfair or accurate?

He's nowhere near as talented and he works so much harder.

 

[giza]

He's nowhere near as talented and he works so much harder.

Extreme speed might be the only thing they have in common.

 

[belfour30]

He's nowhere near as talented and he works so much harder.

Is his hockey sense as bad as AA?

 

[hawksfan50]

Canada list to Latvia because the Latvia goalie stopped 55 shots .maybe the game of his life.. He alsobwas perfect in the shoot-out

.Canada lost t its best player early in the first few minutes of tte game..that was Dman Mathew Schaefer..He is now injured with a broken colkar-bone so out for the rest if the tournament...After he hit hurt very earlybi the game Canada never looked as good as whenSchaefer controlled games for them.. Tge Po was "off" ..the carry puck into o-zobe rushes wre off.. they still gotv5y shots on goal but it was hard to get clear open shots through the collapsing clog Latvia put up and alk the shot blocks they made and when shots did go in goal Felbegvs their goalie saved Latvia tonecand again.

You knew he could not be as good a walk vs U.S.A I the back to back gamevin just 17 hours rest You knew Latvia could not muster the same level of determination vs ISA beibg both tired and coming off tgevhightheir upset ofvthe century game..
Si U S A gedtibg a break nitvpkayong Latvia even at their best.
Festive this advantage. Again Oliver Moore pointless..

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[MTU34]

Is his hockey sense as bad as AA?

Depends on what you mean by hockey sense. AA is just straight up dumb. Moore is so much more complete and has a very advanced 200 foot game. Where he falters is finding ways to utilize his toolkit offensively