2025 WJC Discussion

[Hattrick Kane]

Canada looks like shit and Schaeffer is dead.

 

[bwanajamba]

Canada looks slowww

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Hockey Canada is beyond a joke

 

[Styles]

LOOOL Canada.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

@TLEH Your boy Catton was Jones level atrocious this game.

 

[bwanajamba]

Unbelievable upset

 

[TLEH]

@TLEH Your boy Catton was Jones level atrocious this game.

Seems like all of Canada was terrible. But I didn’t watch.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Seems like all of Canada was terrible. But I didn’t watch.

Him and Cowan and Bonk were especially bad though.

 

[TLEH]

Him and Cowan and Bonk were especially bad though.

I think Bonk sucks so that’s not surprising. Was he just not getting chances? They had 55 shots I’d have to assume he had plenty of chances

 

[hawksfan50]

So are the Hawks going to draft the Latvian goalie.?..they have put up a wall goalie before on the history of this tournament when playing Canada...thebokd Elvis is in the building routine and he wins the shoot-out goalieduel ...He isx18 undraftddandvplays for Sherbrooke in the QMJHL ...6'2 goalie..

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I think Bonk sucks so that’s not surprising. Was he just not getting chances? They had 55 shots I’d have to assume he had plenty of chances

Catton took some really lazy penalties in this game. Just not moving his feet like he should be.

I haven’t watched much of Cowan, but holy hell his game will not translate to the NHL. He literally does not pass the puck. He just skates around passing off golden opportunities.

 

[bwanajamba]

McKenna had an uncharacteristically bad game as well. Was fighting the puck all night.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Also, Nick Lardis absolutely could have been on this team. That’s a guy who loves to shoot and score goals. I’m looking more carefully, and he’s having a way better season than a lot of the plugs they chose.

 

[Taze em]

Who created these pools? Sweden cakewalk. Shaefer hurt bad?

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

NHL teams don't draft defensive centers at 19th overall.

Strongly disagree with this. If you can get a strong 3rd line contributor at 19 that's a huge win. I'm sure the Hawks were hoping for a 2nd line C, but would be thrilled with a good 3rd line C.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Strongly disagree with this. If you can get a strong 3rd line contributor at 19 that's a huge win. I'm sure the Hawks were hoping for a 2nd line C, but would be thrilled with a good 3rd line C.

Right. A productive NHLer is already a huge success of a draft pick.

Player comps and draft potential is a stupid thought process IMHO. These kids are all such wildcards you can’t extrapolate that out. It just lays the ground for disappointment. Especially comparing these kids to very good NHLers

 

[CanadianHawks]

Catton took some really lazy penalties in this game. Just not moving his feet like he should be.

I haven’t watched much of Cowan, but holy hell his game will not translate to the NHL. He literally does not pass the puck. He just skates around passing off golden opportunities.

Cowan had a brutal turnover when we were up 2-0 against the Finns and I was scratching my head why he didn’t dump it in on the line change. Even the announcers called him on it

 

[ello]

Unironically watch KD draft this Lativian goaile

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Cowan had a brutal turnover when we were up 2-0 against the Finns and I was scratching my head why he didn’t dump it in on the line change. Even the announcers called him on it

They’ve been hyping up this point streak he apparently has in the OHL. But his numbers are honestly not that impressive. Certainly nothing that screams superstar. And he turns the puck over way too much to be a defensively responsible middle sixer.

 

[CanadianHawks]

They’ve been hyping up this point streak he apparently has in the OHL. But his numbers are honestly not that impressive. Certainly nothing that screams superstar. And he turns the puck over way too much to be a defensively responsible middle sixer.

He reminds me of another former London Knight, Max Domi.

 

[Styles]

Strongly disagree with this. If you can get a strong 3rd line contributor at 19 that's a huge win. I'm sure the Hawks were hoping for a 2nd line C, but would be thrilled with a good 3rd line C.

That is not a huge win at all. I can find a decent 3rd line center in every free agency.

 

[MTU34]

That is not a huge win at all. I can find a decent 3rd line center in every free agency.

*You can find a decent third line center to severely overpay

Give me the cost controlled guy you have in his prime over the 32 year old that you gave a huge contract to play in your bottom 6. Go look at how a vast majority of drafts play out. Walking away with a high end 3C with a mid/late first is objectively a successful pick

 

[Styles]

*You can find a decent third line center to severely overpay

Give me the cost controlled guy you have in his prime over the 32 year old that you gave a huge contract to play in your bottom 6. Go look at how a vast majority of drafts play out. Walking away with a high end 3C with a mid/late first is objectively a successful pick

Doesn’t take much to please you people. There is a relentless forechecking forward out there putting up 16 goals and 39 points for this pick. But hey that’s not allowed because we WoUlDnT hAvE gOt BeDaRd!

 

[WarriorofTime]

Kind of a stupid play by Schaefer to get himself hurt. Hopefully nothing too serious but kid needs to play smarter out there than that.

 

[MTU34]

Doesn’t take much to please you people. There is a relentless forechecking forward out there putting up 16 goals and 39 points for this pick. But hey that’s not allowed because we WoUlDnT hAvE gOt BeDaRd!

Well that’s certainly a coherent and good faith argument. We’re not debating whether or not it would’ve been better to keep Hagel. We’re debating whether or not Moore turning into a Dave Bolland makes this pick a success.

Isolating Moore as the return for Hagel is also just objectively bad faith arguing. Pretty easy to convince yourself that you’re right if you ignore the fact that there’s a second first rounder in the deal huh?

And trading Hagel had absolutely nothing to do with “getting Bedard”. When that deal was made Hagel was a very good complimentary player riding a ridiculous shooting bender. No one in their right mind saw a guy that’d end up being good enough to play for Canada at a best on best there. Either way, now that he’s turned into that player, had you not dealt him you’d be faced with the reality of paying a winger 6.5 million dollars a year only to win nothing because you were rebuilding for his entire prime.