Speculation: 2025 Trade/Free Agency Thread

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Ive been saying this. He is good at faceoffs too, so stick him next to Carlsson and Zegras.

But what realistically could the Ducks offer that Carolina would want? The Hurricanes are in win now and would want players to help this version of the team. If it was a sign and trade, it would be a lot more. I love the idea of Rantanen, but the cost seems to high and the match seems wrong. The Ducks need trade partners looking for picks and/or prospects.
 
But what realistically could the Ducks offer that Carolina would want? The Hurricanes are in win now and would want players to help this version of the team. If it was a sign and trade, it would be a lot more. I love the idea of Rantanen, but the cost seems to high and the match seems wrong. The Ducks need trade partners looking for picks and/or prospects.
I would give up someone good for him, if he comes with an extension. It would probably cost someone like McTavish/Luneau and a first though. Its certainly a gamble.
 
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For whatever reason, I’m just not that big on Rantanen. Very good player obviously, but I get the feeling he’s benefited from playing with great players that we don’t have.

I won’t complain if we get him obviously though
I’m kinda to the point where idk that going after someone like that and trading 2-3 premium assets +…. Is really beneficial for us. I think we’re kinda in that grey area where it’s not to think about it…. But idk how worth it is long term.

Like no matter what we trade in a potential Rantanen trade, the team is better today…. But idk that it’s wise long term…. Unless PV is some trade genius and gets him relatively cheap
 
But what realistically could the Ducks offer that Carolina would want? The Hurricanes are in win now and would want players to help this version of the team. If it was a sign and trade, it would be a lot more. I love the idea of Rantanen, but the cost seems to high and the match seems wrong. The Ducks need trade partners looking for picks and/or prospects.
3 way trade maybe where Ducks get Rantanen and a goalie, Ducks unprotected 1st goes to a rebuilding team (and maybe a prospect?), Carolina gets a good player or two from the rebuilding team and Gibson? I'm not sure what good players are available from rebuilding teams... they might be able to get someone with term with our 1st.
 
3 way trade maybe where Ducks get Rantanen and a goalie, Ducks unprotected 1st goes to a rebuilding team (and maybe a prospect?), Carolina gets a good player or two from the rebuilding team and Gibson? I'm not sure what good players are available from rebuilding teams... they might be able to get someone with term with our 1st.
All of a sudden the ducks aren’t a rebuilding team any more?
 
I’m all for pursuing Rantanen as a free agent, but count me out on trading for him, even if he comes with an extension. Not only will we have to give up a good lineup player (plus more), but he’s already been offered at least 8x$12.5M, so we would have to blow that out of the water for him to agree to stay with us.

He’s a very good player, but I’m getting skeptical that he’s going to be worth that much when he’s not with MacKinnon. I’ll give up cap space for him, but not much in terms of tradable assets.

EDIT: I also heard someone talk about an interesting strategy for Rantanen. If he does make it to UFA, a team with a lot of cap space (us, Chicago, San Jose, etc.) could offer him a huge number for 1 year (like $16M+), then offer him an 8 year extension when he’s eligible. It would be tough to beat the overall number of dollars he would get in that scenario, but it would have a little bit of extra risk for him, too.
 
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All of a sudden the ducks aren’t a rebuilding team any more?
What kind of player do you think the Ducks will get with a pick in the 8-12 range? A middle 6 player or a mid pair D probably that's years out probably. At some point, the Ducks need to start pushing for the playoffs... at the moment they are 6 points out with a game in hand. If they're in the 4-7 point range at the deadline and they can acquire a legit star (assuming he'll re-sign here) they should go for it. There is no guarantee he'll sign here in free agency. If he's not going to sign a contract either before or right after the trade, don't make the move. It's not for a rental, but a long term piece.
 
What kind of player do you think the Ducks will get with a pick in the 8-12 range? A middle 6 player or a mid pair D probably that's years out probably. At some point, the Ducks need to start pushing for the playoffs... at the moment they are 6 points out with a game in hand. If they're in the 4-7 point range at the deadline and they can acquire a legit star (assuming he'll re-sign here) they should go for it. There is no guarantee he'll sign here in free agency. If he's not going to sign a contract either before or right after the trade, don't make the move. It's not for a rental, but a long term piece.
I don't think Carolina gives a rip about the Ducks 1st in the 8-12 range. They're going to want to make a hockey trade that still positions them to win the SC. The name that stands out is Terry. As for the Ducks, they are a rebuilding team with outstanding goaltending.
 
I’ve really have no issues with Killorn individually who has been solid but he doesn’t really help production for our kids and I just don’t like him with Leo who needs a sniper type on his line.

Also, need to upgrade Fabbri as well. He has really not been good.

Adding a Legit Top 6 winger would go over very well for this team.
 
I don't think Carolina gives a rip about the Ducks 1st in the 8-12 range. They're going to want to make a hockey trade that still positions them to win the SC. The name that stands out is Terry. As for the Ducks, they are a rebuilding team with outstanding goaltending.
I'd argue that no one is going to offer an asset like that and neither should we. I do agree they will want to roster assets. But they're not getting a roster player with term at that level of play. Especially if it's just for the opportunity to sign him.
 
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I'd argue that no one is going to offer an asset like that and neither should we. I do agree they will want to roster assets. But they're not getting a roster player with term at that level of play. Especially if it's just for the opportunity to sign him.
Yup, Carolina got themselves into this mess (again). If they want to they can keep taking these risks, but nobody is bailing them out unless Rantanen comes back extended.
 
I don't think Carolina gives a rip about the Ducks 1st in the 8-12 range. They're going to want to make a hockey trade that still positions them to win the SC. The name that stands out is Terry. As for the Ducks, they are a rebuilding team with outstanding goaltending.
Carolina doesn't, but there are rebuilding teams with players that Carolina might want who might still be looking for picks. Cane's are not getting a player back as good as Rantanen in a trade, so I don't think they'll move him.

Virtually every rebuild has required lottery wins in good years, big time FA signings, or big swings on trades. Ducks have not gotten the first one, the second one has been tough to do, so that leaves trades to improve the roster. Good coaching is the other key, but Verbeek won't replace Cronin right now. Ideally, Ducks keep the pick and are able to sign a big time FA in the summer, but that's going to be tough to do.
 
I don't understand the logic in trading for Rantanen. I'm not sure why HE would want the Ducks to trade for him even if he wants to sign with the Ducks longterm.

Trading for him just takes him out of the running for a cup this year.
It makes the Ducks worse longterm since they will likely be trading Zegras/McTavish + 2025 1st + assuming it is a sign and trade.

If he wants to come to Anaheim longterm, overpay for his rights after the season is over and sign him to an 8 year deal. No upside in trading for him now.
 
In free agency? Sure. As a trade? Not so much. If I'm Carolina I'd be asking for Terry with an add.
Sign me up. The reason Terry wasn’t made captian let alone given a letter at all. I assume verbeek always felt that he might be the odd duck out/ and or the piece in a trade to upgrade. Between Leo, Zegras and Terry. That’s 1 or 2 vanilla core to many forwards for a guy like verbeek is my guess. Given Zegras has “ done what’s asked “
And is a center and younger. Definitely Terry goes before z
 

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