Speculation: 2025 TDL Discussion
- Thread starter KopitarGOAT420
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You’ve waited over 5 yrs to make that your first post… that’s impressive patience. Luc is that you?
kovacro
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FWIW, it was mentioned this past weekend on HNIC segment "After 40 Minutes" that even though ROR has no trade protection, the Preds are going to treat him as if he has a NMC and it would take a very substantial offer to move him. Apparently teams have sniffed around.
He seems like a good leader type/character guy but not sure I'd be all that interested in him.
OT - Don't post on here with as much frequency as I used to, just wanted to say stay safe ladies and gents. Heartbreaking to see whats happening there. Thoughts and prayers.
raswilliam
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Yeah but his bitch factor would still be 100%.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Can't believe we're just glossing over the fact that I solved the Kings TDL dilemma. They do this ^, they win cup... It's that simple.
FSL KINGS
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It's Blake's unforced errors that got me. Like the Cal Peterson contract followed by dumping Walker & Grans, to get out of 3 million of it. Dumping assets because of mistakes. Too many big screwups.
Team needs a fresh perspective from a GM with some sort of scouting experience. Blake's inability to judge talent & fit, is costing the Kings.
Edit: The team is playing well, but we have Blake making decisions on adjustments going into the trade deadline.
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Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
Bro this isn't NHL '25 on playstation. Ottawa is 1 point out of a wildcard, Why would they trade their 4th highest scorer when they are trying to make the playoffs.
He also has a NMC, what if he has an irrational fear of fire?
Ollie Weeks
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Ottawa are frauds and will find themselves comfortably out of a playoff spot by the TDL. Giroux is 43 years old and will gladly waive his NMC to join the Kings and have another shot at the stanley freakin cup.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
Don't think , even for a second, that I didn't notice that you completely glossed over the possibility that Giroux might have an irrational fear of fire.....
Yep can see that totally happening with Blake going to president of Hockey operations and Luc weaseling himself even farther up the food chain. Heck if they are going to promote within, wonder how Yannetti would do. I am pretty sure on Hovens pod he mentioned that he would like to be gm one day
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Peter James Bond III
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I don't see how this team suddenly starts scoring 3-4 goals a game. Unless Doughty's return, fuels the team.
It's possible it does to some extent. It will depend on how close he is to last year's level. A few players are REALLY going to step up their production. Maybe 1 will, but I don't see many doing that.
So, it almost makes zero sense to acquire a veteran goal scorer (with or without term) and giving the team a lift. I don't think there's anyone out there, that would boost this team...if you still have Danault, Moore and Clewliss dressed every game and they are playing the level they are, you're not going to win. Unless you deal one of Moore, Danault and not dress Lewis.
The best thing they could do, is 'make a hockey trade', where Fiala, Moore or Danault are dealt and maybe you add a decent prospect or #2 pick, for a true upgrade. Not sure who would fit that definition, maybe one like Alex Tuch, as mentioned. But I don't think the Sabres are dealing him, but maybe dealing Cozens or Quinn, Byram. I still think Marchessault would be good...not ideal, at his age, but may make the team better...2 yrs removed from Conn Smythe winner. Of course, there's Krieder, Zbad, Rust, etc. I suppose Josh Norris, Pinto, Giroux if they fall back...and the Pens and Blue Jackets will probably be sellers, if they fallout of wildcard.
I wouldn't mind seeing a deadline deal for a RHD or Forward that is close to NHL type...like dealing #3 for Portillo, at 2022 deadline. Look towards the future type of deal and shore up a weak spot in the org.
I think they also got Braden McNabb that way from Buffalo and that was a good deal.
It's possible it does to some extent. It will depend on how close he is to last year's level. A few players are REALLY going to step up their production. Maybe 1 will, but I don't see many doing that.
So, it almost makes zero sense to acquire a veteran goal scorer (with or without term) and giving the team a lift. I don't think there's anyone out there, that would boost this team...if you still have Danault, Moore and Clewliss dressed every game and they are playing the level they are, you're not going to win. Unless you deal one of Moore, Danault and not dress Lewis.
The best thing they could do, is 'make a hockey trade', where Fiala, Moore or Danault are dealt and maybe you add a decent prospect or #2 pick, for a true upgrade. Not sure who would fit that definition, maybe one like Alex Tuch, as mentioned. But I don't think the Sabres are dealing him, but maybe dealing Cozens or Quinn, Byram. I still think Marchessault would be good...not ideal, at his age, but may make the team better...2 yrs removed from Conn Smythe winner. Of course, there's Krieder, Zbad, Rust, etc. I suppose Josh Norris, Pinto, Giroux if they fall back...and the Pens and Blue Jackets will probably be sellers, if they fallout of wildcard.
I wouldn't mind seeing a deadline deal for a RHD or Forward that is close to NHL type...like dealing #3 for Portillo, at 2022 deadline. Look towards the future type of deal and shore up a weak spot in the org.
I think they also got Braden McNabb that way from Buffalo and that was a good deal.
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Peter James Bond III
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A dream scenario would be dealing Fiala, Moore and #1 2025 for Barzal. He recently returned and looking good. Or Brady Tkachuk. Maybe you have to retain Moore 50%. And you're probably adding even more, like a Ziemmer or more picks.
The Kings have missed out on premium players, like Eichel and Matthew Tkachuk, that were dealt.
They went 1B level, with Fiala and PLD. You can call PLD 1C level, but the Kings didn't see him that way.
Of course, he now has 30+ pts and 25 assists and doing ok....but he'll never have the Kings compete,
that they will always champion.
I'm not loving to give out #1 picks, but you do, for a Barzal or Tkachuk. Hate Brady or not, whatever.
I'd prefer Barzal. I'd even deal Fiala for Norris, if they add something. Kevin just cannot push his skills
to the threshold of making something happen you think he should attain. It's like he has the ability to out skate, out maneuver just about anyone...and sometimes make a great pass, or get a great shot off....but not as much as he should. Most players that skill level, do the next task successfully - score, create a high chance...whereas he does not.
It's like he needs his personal coach from Switzerland (or wherever he is) to come over and work with him.
That's so bizarre. I don't think he ever attains 70 pts again. It's not what the Kings thought they were getting.
He still has value.
I like the idea of going homerun: Barzal, Tage Thompson, Tkachuk, over a Zucker, Giroux, even Bryan Rust.
Top players get traded. If the Kings fall out of the playoffs, they should ask Doughty, Kopi, if they would want to go to a team to try for another Cup...and certianly get a haul for Gavi. I love Gavi and he's been nails...but if he's not signing, you gotta deal him.
Speaking of Barzal...I would consider Lee or Brock Nelson, over many other names out there. Still playing at a high level and can actually make a difference. All that said, I'm not dealing Greentree, Clarke, but would consider other prospects for the top level players. You can't say you're not dealing Ziemmer, George, Slukynsky for a Barzal. Both George and Slukynsky will never both be #1 anyway. ideally, you keep both, ala Jonathan Quick, Jonsthan Bernier and 1 wins out.
The Kings have missed out on premium players, like Eichel and Matthew Tkachuk, that were dealt.
They went 1B level, with Fiala and PLD. You can call PLD 1C level, but the Kings didn't see him that way.
Of course, he now has 30+ pts and 25 assists and doing ok....but he'll never have the Kings compete,
that they will always champion.
I'm not loving to give out #1 picks, but you do, for a Barzal or Tkachuk. Hate Brady or not, whatever.
I'd prefer Barzal. I'd even deal Fiala for Norris, if they add something. Kevin just cannot push his skills
to the threshold of making something happen you think he should attain. It's like he has the ability to out skate, out maneuver just about anyone...and sometimes make a great pass, or get a great shot off....but not as much as he should. Most players that skill level, do the next task successfully - score, create a high chance...whereas he does not.
It's like he needs his personal coach from Switzerland (or wherever he is) to come over and work with him.
That's so bizarre. I don't think he ever attains 70 pts again. It's not what the Kings thought they were getting.
He still has value.
I like the idea of going homerun: Barzal, Tage Thompson, Tkachuk, over a Zucker, Giroux, even Bryan Rust.
Top players get traded. If the Kings fall out of the playoffs, they should ask Doughty, Kopi, if they would want to go to a team to try for another Cup...and certianly get a haul for Gavi. I love Gavi and he's been nails...but if he's not signing, you gotta deal him.
Speaking of Barzal...I would consider Lee or Brock Nelson, over many other names out there. Still playing at a high level and can actually make a difference. All that said, I'm not dealing Greentree, Clarke, but would consider other prospects for the top level players. You can't say you're not dealing Ziemmer, George, Slukynsky for a Barzal. Both George and Slukynsky will never both be #1 anyway. ideally, you keep both, ala Jonathan Quick, Jonsthan Bernier and 1 wins out.
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