Speculation: 2025 RFA Class and offer sheets

Not on 9.5m
The poster said on 7 years. So 9.5 on 7 years would most likely be in the 4 1st round pick range, even with the compensation going up for this year. I can't see the compensation going up that much to where it wouldn't be 4 first round picks. 9.5 x 7= 66. 66/5 =13.3
If over 5 years, you have to calculate the total cap / by 5 years.
 
Imma be a party pooper.

I think agents want offer sheets and agents know journalists.

I bet every single ownership group said “make sure this doesn’t happen to us.” - and the teams who maybe have risk may have plans to mitigate it.

I wonder if there are good potential targets on no tax teams who are pursued by taxed teams.

They’re ones where the player may sign and go, get a good opportunity, or if retained, then has a bigger aav - perhaps much higher (not just from opportunity but also the higher taxation in the offerer’s area that drives the aav up) than otherwise would have received in the no tax area. No tax teams rfas may have a similar incentive to ufas, just contorted to incentivize them signing because it’s a lot of potential upside. I didn’t see a lot of targets on the no tax teams but guess I’ll go look after writing this.
 
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If I'm the Canucks I'd get my third back from the flames and offer mactavish 9.5x7

Anaheim has something of an internal cap and might not want to go that big for a possible 2c but he's what the Canucks need

If they're worried about an internal cap when they're still flirting with the cap floor, then they might as well fold the team now, or just admit that their plan is to operate as a farm team for the rest of the league.

But considering they apparently made bigger offers for Stamkos and Marchessault than they were ultimately signed for, I suspect the idea that they'd let McTavish go on an offer sheet because of an internal cap is just wishful thinking. Even if they had a budget, that's not one of the guys they let go, especially with the way he's broken out here in the 2nd half of the season. And not when they can easily dump a few veterans on expiring contracts to pay for it.
 
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Might depend on Byram's motivations as well. When Trouba was trying to get out of Winnipeg, he knew the offer sheet route wouldn't work since they could match.

If I'm counting on my fingers correctly, Byram is a year away from UFA status so maybe an offer sheet would be a last resort option. If Byram were to elect for arbitration (to get a 1 year deal that would walk him to UFA), he'd be ineligible for an offer sheet.
The currently 23 year old Bowen Byram is not, in fact. A UFA in one year.
 
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You do not understand the rules. If a team offers a seven year deal, the total to be paid over seven years is divided by five years, which increases the AAV. The deal as proposed would require Boston to surrender four unprotected first round picks.
You are right about the first part... but you are very likely wrong about the 2nd... the compensation thresholds have not been set for 2025 yet, they are going to increase and when they do that proposed 7 year deal would most likely fall into the 2nd highest tier of 2 Firsts, a Second and a Third as that compensation threshold should increase to over 12m
 
The other factor is how selfish American culture is. The greater number of American players means the more NBA selfishness will enter the league. Before a lot of Canadian players were refusing to sign offer sheets even when proposed. You're going to see guys leveraging it to get the contract they want way more often to maximize their dollars. Such is American culture.

As Bergevin said, if you want loyalty, buy a dog (as he was simultaneously stabbing 990 game career Hab Andrei Markov in the back over an extra year at 3 mil when we weren't tight on the cap space only to spend all that cap on garbage).
You might want to do just a little research before you start making false stereotypical statements, as none of the last 8 NHL players to sign offer sheets were Americans. They were all selfish Canadians or Europeans.

Marc Bergevin is Canadian too.
 
You might want to do just a little research before you start making false stereotypical statements, as none of the last 8 NHL players to sign offer sheets were Americans. They were all selfish Canadians or Europeans.

Marc Bergevin is Canadian too.
Ryan Kesler signed an offer sheet, thus all American's are trash :sarcasm:
 
Just a reminder to everyone, we do not know what the RFA Offer sheet thresholds are yet for offer sheets this summer.

From the summer of 2022 to summer of 2023 compensation rose 2.07%, while the cap rose 1.2%.
From the summer of 2023 to summer of 2024 compensation rose 6.35%, while the cap rose 5.11%.

If we assume another 6.35% increase (I think it will be more since the cap is rising 7.85%) teh thresholds would be:
Low EndHigh EndCompensation
Min1,607,662
None
1,607,6632,435,8533rd in 2026
2,435,8544,871,7092nd in 2026
4,871,7107,307,5621st and 3rd in 2026
7,307,5639,743,4181st, 2nd and 3rd in 2026
9,743,41912,179,2741st in 2027 and 1st, 2nd and 3rd in 2026
12,179,275Max1st in 2026, 2027, 2028 and 2029
Thanks! I was trying to do the math the other day but didn’t have enough time.
 
Ryan Kesler signed an offer sheet, thus all American's are trash :sarcasm:
David Backes was the last American to sign an offer sheet - back in 2008. Yup, Americans are selfishly driving this phenomenon that was incorporated into the CBA for the players by the players. But probably just the selfish American ones.

Fun fact, the first NHL player to sign an offer sheet was Gary Nylund in 1986. He is Canadian.
 
You might want to do just a little research before you start making false stereotypical statements, as none of the last 8 NHL players to sign offer sheets were Americans. They were all selfish Canadians or Europeans.

Marc Bergevin is Canadian too.
One of the previous caveats to being eligible to partake in an offer sheet was signing a bridge deal. Most players didn't accrue enough games to be eligible directly off of their elc. The lack of Americans is explained entirely by there not being many good American players before the modern era and never taking discounts on bridge deals to begin with.
 
One of the previous caveats to being eligible to partake in an offer sheet was signing a bridge deal. Most players didn't accrue enough games to be eligible directly off of their elc. The lack of Americans is explained entirely by there not being many good American players before the modern era and never taking discounts on bridge deals to begin with.
Please just stop replying. The only person you're making look bad is yourself.
 
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4.5M x 3 years for Jack Quinn
9M x 3 years for Matthew Knies

Those would be tough to match.
 
no , I am not. No good young player is signing any short term contract like this, especially Matthew Knies
Leafs aren’t paying Knies 9M without the pressure of an OS. A 3 year deal leaves Knies with a AO of 9M. Signing long term is dumb for young players now that the cap is rising.
 

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