GDT: 2025 NHL Trade Deadline - March 7

[Hattrick Kane]

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[BHawks77]

well they've made a gazillion picks in the past 3 drafts and have a gazillion more in the next 3 drafts, so they should have stuff of value to address their need at forward...they throw away their picks like candy to move up 5 spots, maybe start using them on young nhl players when they're available, like Kakko

How do you know Peterka is even available?? Also it seems like Rangers really wanted borgen.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

the best teams in the league right now are exploiting the shit out of their cap dollars, through LTIR and paying the right players, drafting well...they're assembling the type of roster that would be worth 1.25x or 1.5x the cap ceiling, not wasting it on bum vets at multiples their market value like we do with Foligno, Mrazek, AA, Martinez, Brodie, Dickinson etc...stop spending cap dollars and middling vets, and thats what Donato is, more of that group

 

[ColbyChaos]

Coyle to the avs Mittelstadt coming back

 

[Hawkaholic]

the best teams in the league right now are exploiting the shit out of their cap dollars, through LTIR and paying the right players, drafting well...they're assembling the type of roster that would be worth 1.25x or 1.5x the cap ceiling, not wasting it on bum vets at multiples their market value like we do with Foligno, Mrazek, AA, Martinez, Brodie, Dickinson etc...stop spending cap dollars and middling vets, and thats what Donato is, more of that group

We aren't going to be near one of the best teams for the next 3-5 years, at least, and it has nothing to do with who we are signing lol.

 

[Putt Pirate]

Charlie Coyle to Denver. they are loading up. Edmonton is not getting out of 2nd round the way Dallas and Colorado are stocking up.

 

[bwanajamba]

If we extend Donato with long-term deal we have to factor in the cost it will take to move him down line

The reality is an extended Donato is almost certainly to end up a buyout or having to trade asset to get rid of cap hit

We have seen how disastrous Davidsons's vet contracts have been at this point. Imagine Mrazek, Athanasiou or Brodie with 4-5 year terms at 4.5M-5M

None of those contracts have prevented the team from doing anything, and keeping the term short was obviously a conscious decision to prevent them from doing so later on. At least let the bad deal happen before freaking out over it. It's still more likely to be a negotiating position than anything else at this point

 

[Toews2Bickell]

But we do, so why would it matter?

because it does? the Hawks have been asscheeks for years now at spending their cap dollars and their w/l the past 5+ years reflects that

 

[Toews2Bickell]

We aren't going to be near one of the best teams for the next 3-5 years, at least, and it has nothing to do with who we are signing lol.

this same argument for wasting money on average players goes back to the late Bowman years

 

[Hawkaholic]

because it does? the Hawks have been asscheeks for years now at spending their cap dollars and their w/l the past 5+ years reflects that

No it doesn't. Who should we have signed to better contracts?

We aren't in a position to be signing big free agents over the last 3+ years. They are a rebuilding team, building through the draft, signing vets to help the young kids grow. We aren't looking to be a top team lol

 

[Hawkaholic]

this same argument for wasting money on average players goes back to the late Bowman years

Why are we comparing what is happening now, to the Bowman years?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

None of those contracts have prevented the team from doing anything, and keeping the term short was obviously a conscious decision to prevent them from doing so later on. At least let the bad deal happen before freaking out over it. It's still more likely to be a negotiating position than anything else at this point

theres an opportunity cost to all of this...we let guys like Strome walk and sign absolute bums like AA for the same amount basically, where is that money better spent

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Why are we comparing what is happening now, to the Bowman years?

because you're making the same argument that was made then...who cares if we're spending 4m on Connolly, it doesn't matter

 

[Hawkaholic]

theres an opportunity cost to all of this...we let guys like Strome walk and sign absolute bums like Brodie, where is that money better spent

No one wanted Strome, every team in the league didn't want to trade for him. No one here expect Musto wanted Strome around anymore. We were tanking for Bedard.

 

[Hawkaholic]

because you're making the same argument that was made then...who cares if we're spending 4m on Connolly, it doesn't matter

And that move didn't matter, did it? What difference did it make?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

No one wanted Strome, every team in the league didn't want to trade for him. No one here expect Musto wanted Strome around anymore. We were tanking for Bedard.

the best teams in the league right now are leveraging their cap dollars for all that its worth...we waste ours on replacement/below replacement level players...rather just take on every cap dump in the league for picks/prospects than retain the kind of vets we love to pay to be here

 

[Toews2Bickell]

And that move didn't matter, did it? What difference did it make?

you're right, it doesn't matter how you spend your cap space, just give out 5m aavs for 2.5m players, thats how you win in the long run

 

[Hawkaholic]

the best teams in the league right now are leveraging their cap dollars for all that its worth...we waste ours on replacement/below replacement level players...rather just take on every cap dump in the league for picks/prospects than retain the kind of vets we love to pay to be here

We aren't against the cap, what are you talking about?

 

[BHawks77]

this same argument for wasting money on average players goes back to the late Bowman years

You understand that UFA need to want to come to rebuilding Hawks team. Most of the good/great players want to compite for Stanley Cup. Why do you think Seth Jones asked out and made it public. Last summer KD was after Guentzel but for some reason Tampa won out, even Carolina couldnt keep him.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Coyle for Middelstadt, Zellers and 2nd

Good trade for B's IMO getting younger down middle, a prospect and pick

B's have needed to start retooling/getting younger

 

[Hawkaholic]

you're right, it doesn't matter how you spend your cap space, just give out 5m aavs for 2.5m players, thats how you win in the long run

We can do that, and still have all the cap space in the world right now. I don't think you even know what you are arguing right now.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

We aren't against the cap, what are you talking about?

the hawks have a handful of bad contracts on the books, they don't spend their money well, thats what...what do you not understand about wasting cap space

 

[Hawkaholic]

 

[Kevin Musto]

Carolina turned Necas into Stankoven, two 1st round picks, two 3rd round picks

Solid recovery, from a bad situation with Rantanen