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Viqsi said:
I'm just going to sit here and remember how we felt up here when Edmonton managed to win the draft lottery again when we were bottom of the league and so we'd have to settle for someone like Ryan Murray instead of the obvious future superstar Nail Yakupov. Really, the only real star that came out of that one (to the extent that any of them were stars) was a guy we'd looked at but who ultimately dropped to, like, 11th overall. Trying to remember his name... Phillip something, except he spelled it with an F for some strange reason...
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That goalie from tampa bay is pretty good from that draft
 
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Final Central Scouting rankings are a little... surprising... past #3... ?

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(keeping in mind they rank NA vs. Europe separately so Frondell is still #1 Europe and not included above)
 
Pronman's latest tier ranking

Tier 1 - NHL All Star
Schaeffer

Tier 2 - Bubble All Star and Top of Lineup Player
Misa
Desnoyers
Hagens
Martone

Tier 3 - Top of Lineup Player
Frondell
O'Brien
Eklund
McQueen
Aitcheson
Smith
 
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Porter Stoutheart said:
Final Central Scouting rankings are a little... surprising... past #3... ?

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(keeping in mind they rank NA vs. Europe separately so Frondell is still #1 Europe and not included above)
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Having O'brien up that far is pretty shocking. I don't think I've seen a single mock draft where he is picked before 10th OVA or before Martone/Desnoyers

jumb0 said:
Pronman's latest tier ranking

Tier 1 - NHL All Star
Schaeffer

Tier 2 - Bubble All Star and Top of Lineup Player
Misa
Desnoyers
Hagens
Martone

Tier 3 - Top of Lineup Player
Frondell
O'Brien
Eklund
McQueen
Aitcheson
Smith
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Plus side, no matter how the draft lottery goes we land with a Tier 2 or better prospect.
 
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herzausstein said:
Having O'brien up that far is pretty shocking. I don't think I've seen a single mock draft where he is picked before 10th OVA or before Martone/Desnoyers

Plus side, no matter how the draft lottery goes we land with a Tier 2 or better prospect.
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I also don't think I've ever seen Mrtka that high either. But I guess if you think about it, a 6'6" RD with getting towards a point-per-game... :dunno:

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I figured O'Brien would rise going into the draft but didn't envision a jump like that one. That's CRAZY.

I know he put up some decent numbers in the OHL but he has a disturbing amount of PP points in there.

Actually just checked and he has 50 PP points this year. 98 points altogether. Even Misa - who had 134 points - doesn't have that many points on the PP.

Buyer beware on O'Brien..
 
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Scoresberg said:
Aside from O'Brien, I really "like" seeing Cootes, Potter, Reschny and Fiddler that low. All would be pretty solid options with our later picks.
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I see a lot of other teams (well, fans) mentioning Reschny and Fiddler too though. Higher than our picks.

It really sucks that Tampa went on a bit of a run and their pick is currently sitting #26. Vegas at #30. I guess we can hope for a lot of playoff upsets to shift those up a bit. But it's still not going to be what I was initially hoping for.

We should still get good/interesting prospects with those picks, regardless. I definitely wouldn't double them up to move up a few spots in the draft. We'll never get into the top-10 doing that. And outside of that, it feels like there is quite a plateau of uncertainty. Use the 2 picks, cross our fingers. :crossfing
 
I was also going to mention... this year we didn't go down the NCAA "free wallet" path at all... I think that's sort of fair?

For a crappy team, you can usually lure the top NCAA free agents a little easier, since they can envision an easier path on a crappy team. Jake Livingstone was one of the absolute elite-rated NCAA FAs his year, but he doesn't really look like he's going to pan out as an NHL player. We had Colin Graf on tryouts, too bad he signed with SJ, he looks like a player.

But most of these guys aren't going to make it. I wouldn't really critique our org for not adding anybody via this path this year? We have had a lot of draft picks lately, so we're already bringing in a lot of prospects.
:dunno:
 
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I don't think any of us ever had Molendyk or Surin on our 1st round bingo cards, though. Whoever we think we like today based on the rankings/reports... probably those guys will be gone, and we'll get some completely different guys. And TBH, I don't think we're making bad picks? We're just not developing these later 1st round guys POST draft. :(
 
Historically the preds scouts have put a high priority on primary scoring/assists based on my recollection. They've also tended to gravitate towards guys that were scoring 5v5 points.

I could be talking out of my ass, because I can't recall the exact argument I made once before. I do recall being bored over a summer and digging into it and finding a lot of players who seemed to be primary scoring threats at 5v5 being a theme. This isn't exactly groundbreaking, but when players are "close" in rankings I think they lean towards a less productive player who is scoring primary points vs. a more productive player with secondary and PP scoring.
 
Porter Stoutheart said:
I don't think any of us ever had Molendyk or Surin on our 1st round bingo cards, though. Whoever we think we like today based on the rankings/reports... probably those guys will be gone, and we'll get some completely different guys. And TBH, I don't think we're making bad picks? We're just not developing these later 1st round guys POST draft. :(
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Sometimes, it wouldn't hurt us to take a guy who's "dropping" on draft day. That's how you end up with guys like Debrincat, Chychrun, Caufield, Robertson or Aho.
 
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Viqsi said:
I'm just going to sit here and remember how we felt up here when Edmonton managed to win the draft lottery again when we were bottom of the league and so we'd have to settle for someone like Ryan Murray instead of the obvious future superstar Nail Yakupov. Really, the only real star that came out of that one (to the extent that any of them were stars) was a guy we'd looked at but who ultimately dropped to, like, 11th overall. Trying to remember his name... Phillip something, except he spelled it with an F for some strange reason...
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That draft was so bad
 
Viqsi said:
I'm just going to sit here and remember how we felt up here when Edmonton managed to win the draft lottery again when we were bottom of the league and so we'd have to settle for someone like Ryan Murray instead of the obvious future superstar Nail Yakupov. Really, the only real star that came out of that one (to the extent that any of them were stars) was a guy we'd looked at but who ultimately dropped to, like, 11th overall. Trying to remember his name... Phillip something, except he spelled it with an F for some strange reason...
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Oilers don’t get McDavid if that had drafted Forsberg that year. He was already a 60 point guy and Yakupov got injured that year
 
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