2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[wintersej]

Guys they aren’t trading up. Look at the teams above them in the draft. They all want high impact forwards too.

 

[22Brad Park]

Definitely fair, and there will likely be at least a handful of players who are drafted after the first round this year who will go on to have good NHL careers. There might even be an all star who emerges.
(discounting goalies who seem almost unscoutable, and could come from anywhere)

In terms of deep drafts or shallow there are just years for whatever reasons like 2003, and 2015, where there are people with first round grades through the 40th or 50th pick, and then years where there aren't more than 15-20 players who have first round grades.

And this happens in all sports. Like why is it there are a handful of top 5 caliber WR in one NFL draft, and then the next year it is a bit of a wasteland, and you see 3rd round type talents in past years being talked about in the first round the next. Same things happen in all sports.

Yup true ,but the Bruins are picking high enough they should hit on their top pick. Definitely can't afford another miss this time that is for sure .Winning the lottery would take care of things .They could trade back a couple spots if they wanted and still hit a homerun.

 

[GordonHowe]

This shows some good video on him

Thanks for posting.

 

[McBrom7]

Guys they aren’t trading up. Look at the teams above them in the draft. They all want high impact forwards too.

I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't be so dismissive of the possibility.
Pasta - 28 years old
McAvoy - 27 years old
Swayman - 26 years old

The Bruins need this pick to be a player sooner rather than later for their core's 'window.' Trading up gets you an elite player to grow with these guys. It's atleast a non-zero chance to happen and fun to talk about when there's not much going on with this team at the moment.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't be so dismissive of the possibility.
Pasta - 28 years old
McAvoy - 27 years old
Swayman - 26 years old

The Bruins need this pick to be a player sooner rather than later for their core's 'window.' Trading up gets you an elite player to grow with these guys. It's atleast a non-zero chance to happen and fun to talk about when there's not much going on with this team at the moment.

Great, but it means you have to have things to give away. Personally I think the team would be a bit crazy right now to trade a 26 #1.

Look if you tell me you can swap #9 , Lysell, the 2 #2s and get into the top 3, then yeah I make that trade. I'd give anyone on the Providence roster today instead of Lysell. But if I am running a team with a top 3 pick, I fire my GM if he makes that deal. I guess maybe you could use the future Toronto or Florida pick (depending), but again, I don't think that gets you into the top 3 from 9

GM's for the most part are risk averse. No one wants to be the GM who trades away the next 12 time all star.

 

[22Brad Park]

Great, but it means you have to have things to give away. Personally I think the team would be a bit crazy right now to trade a 26 #1.

Look if you tell me you can swap #9 , Lysell, the 2 #2s and get into the top 3, then yeah I make that trade. I'd give anyone on the Providence roster today instead of Lysell. But if I am running a team with a top 3 pick, I fire my GM if he makes that deal. I guess maybe you could use the future Toronto or Florida pick (depending), but again, I don't think that gets you into the top 3 from 9

GM's for the most part are risk averse. No one wants to be the GM who trades away the next 12 time all star.

Look at the standings they are sitting at # 9 with 2 teams about to jump them.That pick is going to get better yet with this roster.

 

[Kegs]

Look at the standings they are sitting at # 9 with 2 teams about to jump them.That pick is going to get better yet with this roster.

Let’s hope they win the lottery. That would be super.

 

[bbfan419]

Let’s hope they win the lottery. That would be super.

If the Bruins won the lottery and the team with #2 pick really wanted Schaefer, I would swap with them and pick up an extra pick or picks, because Misa would be my #1 target.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

If the Bruins won the lottery and the team with #2 pick really wanted Schaefer, I would swap with them and pick up an extra pick or picks, because Misa would be my #1 target.

I'd take Schafer and parley Lorhei and/or Chucky for a more established #1 (early to mid 20 age)

 

[bbfan419]

I'd take Schafer and parley Lorhei and/or Chucky for a more established #1 (early to mid 20 age)

Another possibility yes, I just really like Misa and think he is the best player in this draft, if it were the 26 draft , then no question McKenna.

 

[Sevendust]

If you draft at a position where Hagens, Misa and Desnoyers are gone you draft O´Brien. Exactly the players you take a chance on. Great IQ, great athlete, PPG player in the league since being 16 years old and last year rookie of the year in the OHL. Flaws are that he has to fill out his body and his physicality.

 

[Oates2Neely]

I'd take Schafer and parley Lorhei and/or Chucky for a more established #1 (early to mid 20 age)

If you trade McAvoy it’s a total rebuild and you have to move Swayman & Pastrnak as well. I don’t subscribe to that plan. Schaefer isn’t going to skate in on day one and take Mac’s minutes

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If you draft at a position where Hagens, Misa and Desnoyers are gone you draft O´Brien. Exactly the players you take a chance on. Great IQ, great athlete, PPG player in the league since being 16 years old and last year rookie of the year in the OHL. Flaws are that he has to fill out his body and his physicality.

Aren't there defensemen rated higher than O'Brien that the Bruins could draft?

 

[Dr Hook]

I kind of felt like depressing myself a bit this morning so I took a look at the Bruins draft picks in the top 10 since 1995

Kyle Mclaren
Jonathan Aitken
Joe Thornton
Sergei Samsonov
Lars Jonsson
Phil Kessel
Zach Hamill
Tyler Seguin
Dougie Hamilton (last one in 2011)

3 pure busts and the none of them ended up making a full career with the team, most moved on quite young. I don't know what it means, if anything, but the draft thread got me thinking about it since they are likely to pick in the top 10 this for the first time a long time. They've picked some good/great players in those spots in the past, but it would be nice if they could get someone that will play at a high level for 10-12 seasons with them.

 

[Kegs]

I kind of felt like depressing myself a bit this morning so I took a look at the Bruins draft picks in the top 10 since 1995

Kyle Mclaren
Jonathan Aitken
Joe Thornton
Sergei Samsonov
Lars Jonsson
Phil Kessel
Zach Hamill
Tyler Seguin
Dougie Hamilton (last one in 2011)

3 pure busts and the none of them ended up making a full career with the team, most moved on quite young. I don't know what it means, if anything, but the draft thread got me thinking about it since they are likely to pick in the top 10 this for the first time a long time. They've picked some good/great players in those spots in the past, but it would be nice if they could get someone that will play at a high level for 10-12 seasons with them.

Bruins love trading away super stars for
Peanuts.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I kind of felt like depressing myself a bit this morning so I took a look at the Bruins draft picks in the top 10 since 1995

Kyle Mclaren
Jonathan Aitken
Joe Thornton
Sergei Samsonov
Lars Jonsson
Phil Kessel
Zach Hamill
Tyler Seguin
Dougie Hamilton (last one in 2011)

3 pure busts and the none of them ended up making a full career with the team, most moved on quite young. I don't know what it means, if anything, but the draft thread got me thinking about it since they are likely to pick in the top 10 this for the first time a long time. They've picked some good/great players in those spots in the past, but it would be nice if they could get someone that will play at a high level for 10-12 seasons with them.

it seems drafting is a lot more sophisticated now than it was even 10 years ago. Not nearly as many Jonathan Aitken's or Zach Hamill's. Could also be that there is a lot more high-end talent out there.

 

[Sevendust]

Aren't there defensemen rated higher than O'Brien that the Bruins could draft?

Yes but I still think that the center position is more important for the Bruins than to draft a defenseman like Smith, Hensler or Mrtka

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I kind of felt like depressing myself a bit this morning so I took a look at the Bruins draft picks in the top 10 since 1995

Kyle Mclaren
Jonathan Aitken
Joe Thornton
Sergei Samsonov
Lars Jonsson
Phil Kessel
Zach Hamill
Tyler Seguin
Dougie Hamilton (last one in 2011)

3 pure busts and the none of them ended up making a full career with the team, most moved on quite young. I don't know what it means, if anything, but the draft thread got me thinking about it since they are likely to pick in the top 10 this for the first time a long time. They've picked some good/great players in those spots in the past, but it would be nice if they could get someone that will play at a high level for 10-12 seasons with them.

Honestly that record is weird. Definitely a very unusual number for people who play less than 100 games 33% (Expected would be closer to 15%)

Absurdly high number of played 750 games. 67% (expected given draft positions would be in the 30%)

So an extremely high miss rate, but an amazing Hit rate. The fact that the mismanaged the careers of Hamilton, Thornton, and Seguin is an entirely different story

 

[SPV]

If the bruins move up to 1 or 2, I think Sweeney drafts Hagens, college kid in the backyard, it’s the team’s general strategy. Picking 9 or 10 will be interesting, I think O’Brien, Bear, or Martin should be the guys we’re looking at there. I had said somewhere earlier that I liked O’Brien, and after reading Dom’s notes on him, I like him even more now.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

If you trade McAvoy it’s a total rebuild and you have to move Swayman & Pastrnak as well. I don’t subscribe to that plan. Schaefer isn’t going to skate in on day one and take Mac’s minutes

I'm not as high on Charlie ...he's definitely a good piece but I expected more offensively (powerplay specially) and playoff wise. Injury prone also concerns me as his contract goes along. I'm not against moving him and I don't think it means a total rebuild personally. I'm also not against keeping him in hopes he can be 4 nations version of Charlie..... and I hate to say it....but maybe we need Gryz back on the cheap to bring out the best in Charlie.....then sit Gryz in the playoffs.

 

[Oates2Neely]

I'm not as high on Charlie ...he's definitely a good piece but I expected more offensively (powerplay specially) and playoff wise. Injury prone also concerns me as his contract goes along. I'm not against moving him and I don't think it means a total rebuild personally. I'm also not against keeping him in hopes he can be 4 nations version of Charlie..... and I hate to say it....but maybe we need Gryz back on the cheap to bring out the best in Charlie.....then sit Gryz in the playoffs.

I expected more from him offensively. He’s steady defensively and he isn’t a liability offensively. He can’t run PP1. With the cap increases I don’t view his 9.5m cap hit as outlandish. In a perfect world he & Hampus don’t suffer any injuries and those two can see some increased time together on the 1st pair. Solid pairing.

I’m not opposed to trading McAvoy (or anyone else on the team except Pastrnak). I just don’t like the idea of trading him for futures. The Pastrnak window is now. He’s playing at an elite level offensively not seen in Boston since the 1970’s era. If you’re moving McAvoy you have to have a replacement on the right side. For example Hampus for a right hand dman, McAvoy for a center in his prime.

No to Grzylek.

 

[HustleB]

Why did Ryabkin fall so far? Is he a darkhorse option?

 

[bbfan419]

If the bruins move up to 1 or 2, I think Sweeney drafts Hagens, college kid in the backyard, it’s the team’s general strategy. Picking 9 or 10 will be interesting, I think O’Brien, Bear, or Martin should be the guys we’re looking at there. I had said somewhere earlier that I liked O’Brien, and after reading Dom’s notes on him, I like him even more now.

If they took Hagens over Misa, that would be Sweeney's next big draft mistake, I see him as a Trevor Zegras type, has some skills, but just not going to be as good as you hoped.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Why did Ryabkin fall so far? Is he a darkhorse option?

I would be pretty shocked if this team took him. He seems like just a tough scout. His skills are great. His motor/consistency seems to get heavily questioned. He has already build a reputation as a dirty player. He struggled against men at the start of the year. He has shown his offensive skills in the USHL, but he has only a small number of games with the late transfer and the suspensions.

could he end up being a top 5 pro from this class, yes absolutely, but at the same time his complete bust factor is probably highest of anyone in the top 15 in the draft.

 

[SPV]

If they took Hagens over Misa, that would be Sweeney's next big draft mistake, I see him as a Trevor Zegras type, has some skills, but just not going to be as good as you hoped.

I see him more like Hughes. I don’t really think either guy will be a big miss. And I don’t really have a preference, I just think that’s what they would do.