BostonBob
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I just realized that Lawrence has already played 11 seasons in Dallas. I still don't like him leaving but it's a bit easier to accept now.
2025 Musings and News: Tis the Off-season
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With the trade of Ed Ingram to Houston that puts one of the final nails in the coffin of one of the worst Vikings draft classes ever. It rivals 2005.
And it all started with that atrocious trade down from 12 to 32 for not great value. Even in foresight it wasn't good. A few reaches (Ingram. Asomoah over Dean). Maybe it was just a lot of Ed Donatell's figure prints cause it was heavy on D. But the trade down was 100% on Kwesi.
1. S Lewis Cine - barely got on the field, then cut after 2 seasons. (did break leg on special teams rookie year)
2. CB Andrew Booth - barely got on the field, traded for a warm body after 2 seasons.
2. G Ed Ingram - started for 2.5 years, but was horrible and finally mercifully benched. Traded for a 6th after 3 seasons.
3. LB Brian Asomoah - Special Teamer.
4. CB Akayleb Evans - cut midway through year 3.
5. RB Ty Chandler - JAG. Might not make the team this year.
5. DE Esezi Otomewo - cut after 1 season.
6. WR Jalen Nailor - sadly might be the best player from the class with 1 decent season.
6. OT Vederian Lowe - traded for a 6th after 1 season. (Think he's been on OK for NE. Even caught a TD aha)
7. TE Nick Muse - yo-yoed between PS and 53 for for 3 years, signed with Eagles in January.
I mean 5ths/7ths are usually dart throws so finding Nailor (and Lowe) could be deemed a success. But how do you miss that badly on all 5 guys you picked in the first 4 rounds?
There's a good chance no one other than Nailor plays out their entire rookie contract. At least they got a couple picks back for Ingram and Lowe.
And it all started with that atrocious trade down from 12 to 32 for not great value. Even in foresight it wasn't good. A few reaches (Ingram. Asomoah over Dean). Maybe it was just a lot of Ed Donatell's figure prints cause it was heavy on D. But the trade down was 100% on Kwesi.
1. S Lewis Cine - barely got on the field, then cut after 2 seasons. (did break leg on special teams rookie year)
2. CB Andrew Booth - barely got on the field, traded for a warm body after 2 seasons.
2. G Ed Ingram - started for 2.5 years, but was horrible and finally mercifully benched. Traded for a 6th after 3 seasons.
3. LB Brian Asomoah - Special Teamer.
4. CB Akayleb Evans - cut midway through year 3.
5. RB Ty Chandler - JAG. Might not make the team this year.
5. DE Esezi Otomewo - cut after 1 season.
6. WR Jalen Nailor - sadly might be the best player from the class with 1 decent season.
6. OT Vederian Lowe - traded for a 6th after 1 season. (Think he's been on OK for NE. Even caught a TD aha)
7. TE Nick Muse - yo-yoed between PS and 53 for for 3 years, signed with Eagles in January.
I mean 5ths/7ths are usually dart throws so finding Nailor (and Lowe) could be deemed a success. But how do you miss that badly on all 5 guys you picked in the first 4 rounds?
There's a good chance no one other than Nailor plays out their entire rookie contract. At least they got a couple picks back for Ingram and Lowe.
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Beyond that, they still only really lost depth pieces. Slay and CJGJ were starters, but we’ve seen the Eagles are definitely fine in the secondary. Though they did try to sign Justin Reid.
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it's a very deep RB class, so can get someone in rd 3 or 4. Should see a big run on RB on day 2 of the draft.
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they'll just utilize 20% of the playbook for rush and hand it off to henry the rest of the time. rush at least gives them a chance to win without lamar as opposed to trotting out guys like josh johnson, anthony brown, tyler huntley, etc
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Yeah I suppose a guy who can throw it a little and can't run, is better than a guy who can run a little but can't throw, especially when you add Henry to the mix
He’s got experience as a starter with 14 games. Figure his base per is like $3-4 mill with bonuses based on starts or something.
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Trying to find someone similar to Lamar wasn’t working anyways. May as well just go with the best guy you can find. It’s bit surprising that no one’s given Cooper Rush a chance to compete, the Vikings or Browns should’ve been in on this.
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I'm amazed how quickly the Eagles have dismantled a team that won the Super Bowl. What the f*** is Howie doing up there?
Eagles elite championship D decimated by free agency losses. Now you let him walk?
I don't understand it.
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Next season Alt 22y, Slater 26y, Becton 26y
Are Chargers building a legit monster Oline?
Unholy Diver
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Seriously, what are they doing? If I didn't know any better it would almost seem like they might be limited or even capped at how much they could spend, thus making it tough for every guy to get paid as much as he wants
Unholy Diver
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Eagles have a boatload of dead cap. Kelce, Cox, Slay, Bradbury, Sweatt, etc. well over $60 mill. There is not much more they can do with the current roster to free up cap room. I think Jurgens has the highest base salary of any starter and it’s like $5 mill. Everyone else is getting their money but taking it mostly as bonuses which get prorated.
Blackhawkswincup
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Zion Johnson was also a first rounder in 2022. Chargers have outside of their C, 4 former first rounders.
Becton is going into year 6, from 2020 draft. Slater from 2021 draft.
Johnson from 2022 draft. Alt from 2024 draft.
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GKJ
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Not making the same mistakes they did after 2017 is what they’re doing. All their young stars on rookie deals will have to get paid. They haven’t lost anyone that they should not be able to replace.
Eagles get out in front of contracts. 2021 class is done their rookie deal. Smith got extended early. Same with Dickerson.
2022 class, Jordan Davis, I don't think gets an extension this off-season. Jurgens, I think will get done, but not under the gun to make it happen. He's the most certain of that class to get a new deal from Philly. Dean, I also think will not get an extension early. Still some more wait and see with these 2.
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It doesn’t seem very many RBs have improved stat wise after leaving Pittsburgh. They seem to have a good feel on when to cut bait
