2025 HHOF predictions

[carjackmalone]

No one’s had 60 goals with two different teams

Bure scores at least 59 between Van and Florida four times though

 

[Giotrapani91]

They really only changed the rule so they could induct Pronger, for whatever reason the committee didn't want to make him wait.

It's a really dumb rule.

Shea Weber wasn't first ballot In my opinion.

I think it's somewhat the other way around : they didn't want players who are obvious retirees due to health reasons to announce their retirement early -- thus terminating their contract -- only to make it to the HHOF.

It also helped that Pronger was a super obvious HHOF'er. Things may have been different if the first instance where the question would've been with Shea Weber (who was ... maybe an obvious HHOFer, but definitely not a super-obvious HHOFer like Pronger).

 

[Voight]

It's a really dumb rule.

Shea Weber wasn't first ballot In my opinion.

From about 2010-2015 he was a top 5 defenseman. Thats a HHOF in anyones book. He was robbed of a Norris in 2011 and in 2012 lost one of the closet votes in history. Honestly, had he spent his best years playing for a bigger market/more popular team, he'd of won a Norris.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

No one’s had 60 goals with two different teams

Bure scores at least 59 between Van and Florida four times though

after bure, mogilny is the only player to ever score 55 with two different teams right? gretzky and jagr each peaked at 54 with their later teams.

and doing this off the top of my head, without looking it up, players with 40 goals with three different teams:

mogilny (buffalo, vancouver, new jersey)
larouche (pittsburgh, montreal, rangers)
shanahan (st louis, hartford, detroit)
mullen (st louis, calgary, pittsburgh)
mahovlich (toronto, detroit, montreal)
hossa (ottawa, atlanta, detroit)
ciccarelli (minnesota, washington, detroit)
verbeek (new jersey, hartford, rangers)

who am i forgetting? one guy i thought about, wilf paiement, had 40 for colorado and toronto, but just missed with 39 in quebec. heatley also just misses with 39 in san jose.

 

[MadLuke]

Hull was 39-37 with Dal-DET so not even him. Dionne 31 with the Rangers, Espo not close on the Hawks, Gartner 35 with Toronto, Tkachuck 38 with STL, Turgeon 38 with MTL...

But those type of stat always have some, why are you moving around so much during your prime type of feeling... (if it was not absurdly long)

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Gartner 35 with Toronto

steve thomas is another 35 with toronto, 40 with two other teams (chicago and the islanders), which is weird to me because i feel like he’s most remembered as a leaf

 

[Giotrapani91]

after bure, mogilny is the only player to ever score 55 with two different teams right? gretzky and jagr each peaked at 54 with their later teams.

and doing this off the top of my head, without looking it up, players with 40 goals with three different teams:

mogilny (buffalo, vancouver, new jersey)
larouche (pittsburgh, montreal, rangers)
shanahan (st louis, hartford, detroit)
mullen (st louis, calgary, pittsburgh)
mahovlich (toronto, detroit, montreal)
hossa (ottawa, atlanta, detroit)
ciccarelli (minnesota, washington, detroit)
verbeek (new jersey, hartford, rangers)

who am i forgetting? one guy i thought about, wilf paiement, had 40 for colorado and toronto, but just missed with 39 in quebec. heatley also just misses with 39 in san jose.

I don't think pat verbeek would be a bad inductee, 522 goals 540 assists 1062 points and 2900 penalty minutes that's not a bad career if you ask me.

 

[The Panther]

after bure, mogilny is the only player to ever score 55 with two different teams right? gretzky and jagr each peaked at 54 with their later teams.

I wouldn't get too excited about this. It's just a result of being goal-scorers in the 1990s when everyone was changing clubs every two years.