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TheBeard said:
It was Pitts or Carolina. Those are the only teams Karlsson agreed to go to.
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I’m pretty sure Dallas and Seattle he agreed to go to as well but those were the 2 that offered the best packages that Grier was deciding between. Either way, I don’t think you can just say Grier lucked into anyone but Macklin.
 
Anyway, I think when evaluating Grier's work we should also consider last summer's free agent signings, which look pretty good after almost a year, and I think there's a safe bet that Wennberg can fetch a 2nd at next year's deadline. But those two help the argument that he's not a buffoon when it comes to NHL-level talent identification.

We also shouldn't forget about Kovalenko as part of the Blackwood return. He's now healthy and it would be interesting to see if he gets the top six time vacated by Zetterlund in these final 18 games to see what's there heading into next season.
 
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timorous me said:
Anyway, I think when evaluating Grier's work we should also consider last summer's free agent signings, which look pretty good after almost a year, and I think there's a safe bet that Wennberg can fetch a 2nd at next year's deadline. But those two help the argument that he's not a buffoon when it comes to NHL-level talent identification.

We also shouldn't forget about Kovalenko as part of the Blackwood return. He's now healthy and it would be interesting to see if he gets the top six time vacated by Zetterlund in these final 18 games to see what's there heading into next season.
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Kovalenko is probably taking Kunin's spot.
 
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Star Platinum said:
First plus is way overvaluing Ferraro unless the plus is the plus we got with Walman
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I think it might be more that after trading Walman, the line has to be drawn somewhere in terms of the practical aspect of the team you're going to ice the rest of the year, and the fact that Ferraro will continue to have value (more realistic value than a 1st and more) this summer and at next year's deadline helps Grier dig in his heels on that one.
 
TheBeard said:
Kovalenko is probably taking Kunin's spot.
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I could see Kovalenko moving up and Ostapchuk taking Kunin's spot, unless they want him to get more time marinating with the Barracuda. In which case maybe someone gets called up from there to take either Kunin's or Zetterlund's spot.
 
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TheBeard said:
Grier obviously got a vibe from Michkov he was gonna stay in the KHL and Grier didn't have the leverage to risk not having your only prospect not come over for half a decade.

Other GMs literally said they had no idea Walman was available. Stevie called the worst team in the league and said he needed to move money.

Granlund had to be moved as part of the deal. Same with Ruuta. His inclusion was literally the reason we were able to get a first.
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I fully agree. grier has been in a no lose situation.
1. If he trades talent out, he gets assets. Win!
2. if he signs a guy who overperforms, then trades away for assets, he gains "free" assets! yay!
3. if he signs a guy who sucks. trades away for bag of pucks: nuetral (small win as bag of pucks in!)

As long as he never trades any future assets for current value and has no expectations of actually winning a game, he wins! hell, the more they lose, the higher the pick, WIN! Look we got celebrini!! win!

Basically, he cannot lose in the current environment. The only way he can lose is if there is an actual expectation of winning. As long as everyone is OK with adding assets while finishing last, his job is about the easiest one there is!

This is why 6 straight years of losing, 2 straight dead F-ing last, and hes still seen as "good". How many more dead last years does he get to ride trading talent for more future and adding top picks? Personally, i was hoping this year would start the climb, and next year would reach respectability. Now I have no clue what his timeline is? 2037?

This was the most deflating deadline I can remember.
 
Jargon said:
Grier did apparently really like Kovalenko, so maybe he sees him and Zetterlund as interchangeable.

If only Warsofsky didn’t hate Russians…
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Grier is a rabid anti-Lundite

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you know, I knew GMMG was gonna be a seller at the TDL but holy crap if last season was the godfather of tank seasons, this is the godfather 2
 
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