NHL Entry Draft: 2025 Draft Pick Watch

[Jag68Sid87]

Hey people, Pens fan here. Very curious about the direction the Rangers will take this off-season. I feel that the NYR and Pit will absolutely, positively make at least one trade this off-season. Do you folks feel the same way? I base this off of two main reasons:

- Dubas and Drury have made trades even BEFORE the ex-coach became the new head coach. I remember the Ruhwedel trade caught me (and probably most Pens fans) by surprise. Why? Mainly because Ruhwedel was a Sullivan favorite. So, I think we will see more.

- the main reason is the coach's preference for a certain style of player. He pretty much ONLY likes north-south players. It has been to the detriment of several decent, good and very good players on the Penguins over the last seven years or so. I look at the Rangers roster, and I see players that in my brain do not fit the brand of hockey he wants to play. Maybe Drury can/has convince(d) him that he has to change his rigid coaching ways. I'd be surprised, since he has been doing the same thing year over year since 2018. No adjustments. No changes in system or style. You play "the right way" under Sullivan or you are out. Malkin is probably the only east-west player Sullivan has ever stomached for a long period of time. I suppose Panarin could become No. 2. Maybe.


That is the main reason why I feel these two teams will deal at some point. What do you guys think?

 

[Kupo]

Next year might be a better class, but I can see this team having a more successful year and finishing in the later teens, or even 20's.

Jackson Smith. 6'3. Good size. LHD. Can skate. Moves the puck well. I'd take him at 12 if he's there.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

They say next year is deeper... higher potential?

They said that every year. Grain of salt.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Hey people, Pens fan here. Very curious about the direction the Rangers will take this off-season. I feel that the NYR and Pit will absolutely, positively make at least one trade this off-season. Do you folks feel the same way? I base this off of two main reasons:

- Dubas and Drury have made trades even BEFORE the ex-coach became the new head coach. I remember the Ruhwedel trade caught me (and probably most Pens fans) by surprise. Why? Mainly because Ruhwedel was a Sullivan favorite. So, I think we will see more.

- the main reason is the coach's preference for a certain style of player. He pretty much ONLY likes north-south players. It has been to the detriment of several decent, good and very good players on the Penguins over the last seven years or so. I look at the Rangers roster, and I see players that in my brain do not fit the brand of hockey he wants to play. Maybe Drury can/has convince(d) him that he has to change his rigid coaching ways. I'd be surprised, since he has been doing the same thing year over year since 2018. No adjustments. No changes in system or style. You play "the right way" under Sullivan or you are out. Malkin is probably the only east-west player Sullivan has ever stomached for a long period of time. I suppose Panarin could become No. 2. Maybe.


That is the main reason why I feel these two teams will deal at some point. What do you guys think?

sure, you can have Panarin. We’ll take the 11th and a young player please, and thank you

 

[SA16]

I think if you play like a AHLer for hte first half of the year and then play well the second half then...well, that's good you played better but that first half of the season was absolute killer. It's the empty calories shit. You can't be held up as this great player if you're bad for half the year.

They need him to be better and not make excuses for him like you are

I think if a player plays at a near point per game pace for the last three months of the season it shows he is capable of doing so except everyone always like to assume the worst.

Please also explain where I made an excuse for him? I just posted his scoring.

 

[n8]

Or Juan Pablo Montoya

I'd rather Inigo. He's very agile, athletic, understands how to play in multiple systems, can adapt to the situation, knows how to take out the opposition, and can even finish while playing with severe injuries. And a classic Jagr hairstyle to boot!

 

[Levitate]

I think if a player plays at a near point per game pace for the last three months of the season it shows he is capable of doing so except everyone always like to assume the worst.

Please also explain where I made an excuse for him? I just posted his scoring.

We know he's capable of playing at that level. But if he only does it 3 months of the year then it means he's unreliable and you can't have your theoretical top line center/winger/whatever be so unreliable you don't know if you're going to get any production out of him for half the year!

If he was a middle six guy on this team and we expected some inconsistent production because of that then fine, but you can't have your top players disappear for that long

 

[RangersFan1994]

The Rangers should keep this pick. The Rangers have a good history lately of when hiring a new coach, theyre a playoff team the next season. No reason to think that cant happen with some tinkering. Say next year the Rangers pick 24 overall. Even in a deep draft, I rather take the chance on the 12th overall. 2010, 2003 was deep and the Rangers still picked a dud.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

Hey people, Pens fan here. Very curious about the direction the Rangers will take this off-season. I feel that the NYR and Pit will absolutely, positively make at least one trade this off-season. Do you folks feel the same way? I base this off of two main reasons:

- Dubas and Drury have made trades even BEFORE the ex-coach became the new head coach. I remember the Ruhwedel trade caught me (and probably most Pens fans) by surprise. Why? Mainly because Ruhwedel was a Sullivan favorite. So, I think we will see more.

- the main reason is the coach's preference for a certain style of player. He pretty much ONLY likes north-south players. It has been to the detriment of several decent, good and very good players on the Penguins over the last seven years or so. I look at the Rangers roster, and I see players that in my brain do not fit the brand of hockey he wants to play. Maybe Drury can/has convince(d) him that he has to change his rigid coaching ways. I'd be surprised, since he has been doing the same thing year over year since 2018. No adjustments. No changes in system or style. You play "the right way" under Sullivan or you are out. Malkin is probably the only east-west player Sullivan has ever stomached for a long period of time. I suppose Panarin could become No. 2. Maybe.


That is the main reason why I feel these two teams will deal at some point. What do you guys think?

This is among the reasons I do not like the Sullivan hire; did not change his style regardless of the roster he had. Unless Drury can basically blow up this roster, I don't see them being much better next season than they were this season. I hope they can find a way to trade Panarin, though it's unlikely (NMC).

I can see a trade between the 2 teams. What the parameters are, I don't know, but other than Sidney Crosby, they don't have much I would take on (I admit I didn't watch every Penguins game this season Lol). I don't trust Drury's track record trade wise.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

The Rangers should keep this pick. The Rangers have a good history lately of when hiring a new coach, theyre a playoff team the next season. No reason to think that cant happen with some tinkering. Say next year the Rangers pick 24 overall. Even in a deep draft, I rather take the chance on the 12th overall. 2010, 2003 was deep and the Rangers still picked a dud.

This team needs more than a "tinkering" to get back to being a contender. Unless Drury can blow up the roster, it won't matter who the head coach is; I don't see this team being much better next season than they were this season.

Send the pick to Pittsburgh.

 

[NYR Viper]

Just trade Kreider and Panarin and get a couple of later 1st’s along with some other pieces and then give Pittsburgh this years pick. They’ll still have a couple of 1st’s this year.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I mean immoveable in the sense that he has to waive his NMC (which he has said that he won't do), and buying him out only saves us 667k for five years, then costs us 333k for another 5.

I agree that he has value around the league still. I just don't think we're able to move him or justify buying him out.

Ahh. Okay. I get that.

 

[2014nyr]

But you didn't address the general notion that next year's draft is considered much deeper.

This is a 10 player draft. It has been said that after #10, many of these players are interchangeable through deep into the second round.

A pick at #20 next year may be more valuable than this year's #12.

people say next year is way deeper around this time every year. those are the shiny new toys who haven't spent a year being nitpicked in the spotlight. there are very, very few drafts that are truly differential where teams value those 1st rounders more than the present year. nothing about next year suggests it's on that level. there's an elite talent at #1, nothing else looks out of the ordinary.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Next year might be a better class, but I can see this team having a more successful year and finishing in the later teens, or even 20's.

Jackson Smith. 6'3. Good size. LHD. Can skate. Moves the puck well. I'd take him at 12 if he's there.

hate that name. Pass.

 

[bhamill]

This team needs more than a "tinkering" to get back to being a contender. Unless Drury can blow up the roster, it won't matter who the head coach is; I don't see this team being much better next season than they were this season.

Send the pick to Pittsburgh.

If the team didn’t quit mid season they’d have easily made the playoffs. Pretty sure they’ll wait till season two to quit on Sullivan so we should make it next year. Honestly we’ll prob pick in the 20’s. Now if Pan is dealt in the off season, where we finish will depend on what we get back.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Back end:
Soucy Fox
Vaakanainen Borgen
Miller (???) Schneider(coming off surgery)

Give up the pick.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Back end:
Soucy Fox
Vaakanainen Borgen
Miller (???) Schneider(coming off surgery)

Give up the pick.

vomit

 

[bobbop]

But you didn't address the general notion that next year's draft is considered much deeper.

This is a 10 player draft. It has been said that after #10, many of these players are interchangeable through deep into the second round.

A pick at #20 next year may be more valuable than this year's #12.

A pick at #20 next year may be made by a different GM

 

[QJL]

I am genuinely shocked at the number of people here saying keep the pick after how we saw this lineup play this year.

We finished the last 65 games of this season 27-32-6. The decline is real. Take off your tin foil hats and don’t risk make one of the worst decisions in franchise history with a bottom 5 finish being a very real outcome.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I am genuinely shocked at the number of people here saying keep the pick after how we saw this lineup play this year.

We finished the last 65 games of this season 27-32-6. The decline is real. Take off your tin foil hats and don’t risk make one of the worst decisions in franchise history with a bottom 5 finish being a very real outcome.

especially considering we just dropped to 12 in a (weak) 11 player draft. the gods are telling us to forfeit this pick. let’s see if drury listens

 

[nsvoyageurs]

If the team didn’t quit mid season they’d have easily made the playoffs. Pretty sure they’ll wait till season two to quit on Sullivan so we should make it next year. Honestly we’ll prob pick in the 20’s. Now if Pan is dealt in the off season, where we finish will depend on what we get back.

The fact they quit on the coach is one of the reasons this core needs to be gutted. Maybe Panarin gets dealt (I'll believe it if I see it); he's not the only one who needs to go.

I'd rather have a pick in the 20s next year than 12th this year.

 

[eco's bones]

If the team didn’t quit mid season they’d have easily made the playoffs. Pretty sure they’ll wait till season two to quit on Sullivan so we should make it next year. Honestly we’ll prob pick in the 20’s. Now if Pan is dealt in the off season, where we finish will depend on what we get back.

If we end up moving Panarin there are a bunch of considerations. Some teams would have to move a lot of salary (or won't be able to) to take him on or we're going to have to do some retaining. He could be a player who if you move him at the right time (and that might be during the season) to the right team could bring back multiple 1st round picks if we're just looking for that. If we move him over the summer....the Rangers offense is going to take a big hit going into next year. He had 63 even strength points last year--the next highest would have been Lafreniere with 41 and then Trocheck and Fox with 40 each. That said JT had 23 in 32 games. Panarin can be a frustrating player at times but if there's anyone on our team who can make something out of nothing or make a big play at a critical moment it is him. Fit him somehow on to a top team where he's not necessarily the 'guy' and that team is probably going places.

If we do move him I'd want a big return for him. Larger than for anyone else we might move. He's just way more dynamic a player than Zibanejad or Kreider.

 

[haohmaru]

What’s the deadline for making this decision?

 

[McRanger92]

hate that name. Pass.

Jackson Smith-Njigba

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

What’s the deadline for making this decision?

Seems to be 48 hours before the draft.