Prospect Info: 2025 Draft discussion

[MeinerEiner]

what's the return?

Let's say it's a fair deal. I'm more concerned with whether the first-round pick would be traded or if they say we have to keep the pick no matter what.

Realistically, any player they would take with the pick is the best player in the system.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Use the pick. This team's years beyond trading it for an asset that helps in the here and now.

 

[The Old Master]

Let's say it's a fair deal. I'm more concerned with whether the first-round pick would be traded or if they say we have to keep the pick no matter what.

Realistically, any player they would take with the pick is the best player in the system.

i think you always look, but it would need to be an overpay.

 

[Ulf5]

Let's say the Pens get the 7th pick in the draft. Do you trade the pick or keep it?

Use the pick. This team's years beyond trading it for an asset that helps in the here and now.

Trade it for a 1st next year. Some GM will get hot for a prospect and bite.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Trade it for a 1st next year. Some GM will get hot for a prospect and bite.

Nah, don't overthink it. Use the pick. They'll be right back here vying for a top-5 pick next year too imo. Maybe even in a better situation to chase McKenna after removing a buncha vets via trade between now and next October--if they're smart.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Maybe they could package this year's high pick in what looks to be a shit draft with the dozen or so 2nd and 3rd round picks ranging from 2027-2044 to entice some assuredly-savvy GM to part with next year's top pick in what looks to be a not-as-shit draft? I know we were saving those up to unleash Dubas' ultimate plan to win the whole league but ya gotta give to get.

 

[BusinessGoose]

There's no reason to trade ANY of our picks, at this point.

We need all of them.

 

[Ulf5]

Nah, don't overthink it. Use the pick. They'll be right back here vying for a top-5 pick next year too imo. Maybe even in a better situation to chase McKenna after removing a buncha vets via trade between now and next October--if they're smart.

Next season supposedly a better draft. Would rather have two 1sts then if we miss top 4 or 5 this year

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

There's no reason to trade ANY of our picks, at this point.

We need all of them.

I dunno. I clearly differ quite a bit from you guys on what I think they should be doing but if I'm the Penguins holding like #6 overall and I know that the draft drops off a cliff around 4 or 5 then I'd try to leverage it into something else. Maybe a package for a good young roster player that isn't fitting into his current team's plans or a recent top draftee that is a couple of years out from his draft etc.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Yeah, I mean, they're looking like they're gonna end up in a top-5 spot. That's getting you the best pick you've had in the system, on paper, since Staal. Even if people are calling it a "weak" draft because of the drop off after the first few picks. And nobody really f***in' knows anyway. Just gotta roll the dice and hope for the best.

 

[The Old Master]

Nah, don't overthink it. Use the pick. They'll be right back here vying for a top-5 pick next year too imo. Maybe even in a better situation to chase McKenna after removing a buncha vets via trade between now and next October--if they're smart.

if you have another 1st to add to yours, moving up would be much easier.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Next season supposedly a better draft. Would rather have two 1sts then if we miss top 4 or 5 this year

I guess, but that shit's always overblown imo. I'd rather have like the 6th overall and a top-5 next year than like, a 2nd in a "weaker" draft this year and like the 3rd overall and 20th overall or something next year. /shrug

-edit- Besides, someone's gonna get baited into taking McQueen in the top-5. Dude's a mammoth but apparently sucks at skating, so I think that's a Hugh Jessiman waiting to happen.

 

[Jacob]

I think what we need to do is shut everyone down in the last few weeks to get a top-4 pick.

 

[The Old Master]

Realistically, any player they would take with the pick is the best player in the system.

it's still way too early to tell, but a 7th this year may not be any better than yager.

 

[MeinerEiner]

it's still way too early to tell, but a 7th this year may not be any better than yager.

Yager is not in the system anymore....

 

[HandshakeLine]

Use the pick. This team's years beyond trading it for an asset that helps in the here and now.

You just know we're gonna do something dumb with it, lol.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

You just know we're gonna do something dumb with it, lol.

Oh absolutely. Either traded for some dipshit that Sully misuses or used on some kid ranked like 39th because he's a PKer that went to Boston U.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Every year people talk about how top 5s never miss, and every year some dumb GM drafts Slafkovsky or Yakupov.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Every year people talk about how top 5s never miss, and every year some dumb GM drafts Slafkovsky or Yakupov.

It's true, but I'm not screaming to get 3rds to hope for a Guentzel or "good-era" Rust as picks are equally random outcomes in later rounds

 

[HandshakeLine]

It's true, but I'm not screaming to get 3rds to hope for a Guentzel or "good-era" Rust

Oh, for sure. I'm just saying, I don't think this is a "draft top 5OA and turn the ship around" situation. I don't trust our scouting department or development and, while maybe this shapes up to be a deep draft in the end, right now, I'm not seeing a whole lot that suggests it.

Also, lol that someone drafted Slafkovsky and Yakupov 1OA.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Oh no, agreed. We need about five years of top five picks to hope one idiot works out lol

We're f***ed

 

[HandshakeLine]

We've got the best crew in the business on it!

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

It's cool cuz this team can either try for rebuilding through the inevitable top-5 picks they're gonna be getting, which means they have to heavily rely on their GM, amateur scouting group and development (lol, lmao even). Or they can use those picks to try and snag players from other teams in an effort to rebuild on the fly, which means they have to rely heavily on their GM and pro scouting group (lol, lmao even).

 

[HandshakeLine]

Honestly, this is always the giant elephant in the room with the Pens. It's not the GM/PoHO (lol), it's not the coach. It's that our scouting makes some absolutely baffling decisions with this team sometimes.