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Tony Ferrari from THN talks a bit about the draft here. Had some encouraging things to say about Eklund vs. Frondell. It kind of reaffirms to me that Eklund made Frondell better at the end of the year.
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Tony Ferrari from THN talks a bit about the draft here. Had some encouraging things to say about Eklund vs. Frondell. It kind of reaffirms to me that Eklund made Frondell better at the end of the year.
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This is for you, @Frk It . A Lynden Lakovic discussion.
I like the IDEA of Lakovic more than Lakovic himself. I don’t expect him to ever be a bruiser and if we pick him there will always be wings fans that wish he was more physical. I do like the skill level and can see the scoring potential there. Maybe an Alex Tuch? If that’s the highest talent level on the board when the wings pick 11 to 13 and my other favorites are gone then so be it.
I like the IDEA of Lakovic more than Lakovic himself. I don’t expect him to ever be a bruiser and if we pick him there will always be wings fans that wish he was more physical. I do like the skill level and can see the scoring potential there. Maybe an Alex Tuch? If that’s the highest talent level on the board when the wings pick 11 to 13 and my other favorites are gone then so be it.
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I still maintain you guys were too damn high on Rossi/Eklund. But they are starting to show some promise, for sure.
I will probably continue to be a sucker for this guy. He just looks so impressive with the puck on this stick to me for a guy his size.
That said, I really haven’t had an extensive chance to watch any of these guys. Hoping to watch some of Aitcheson, Martin, Mrtka, Lakovic this weekend.
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One of the things I saw in that discussion is they said he had high hockey IQ.
I don't see it. Even when they talked about his passing being sometimes off, and when he came up he just wanted to dangle players, I still feel like I'd take another option.
Why would we trade down? We don’t need more volume of picks we need difference makers
Anyone watched jack nesbitt? 6’4 we could more of that over more 6 foot tall bottom 6 penalty killers who get sh*t on
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It's a weak draft, especially in the 11-14 range. Two chances at a "difference maker" is better than one.
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Agreed Yzerman needs to go full Kevin Costner in Draft day.
Write a note to himself;
“Jake O’Brien, No Matter What!”
Then have his daughter hand said note back to him an hour before the draft.
If we're drafting 12-14, might be prime spot to grab that Aitcherson (sp?) kid and add some grit to the blueline. Not the biggest guy, but if he can be a 2nd pair guy who really embraces the rough stuff, I wouldn't mind it. If he has modest puck skills, might be interesting paired with ASP, a Sydor to ASP's Zubov.
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Aitcheson kid reminds me of Kronwall not the biggest but a big hitter. Who can play as well.
Would love if he's our guy.
Yzerman’s first three years of 1st round picks were home runs. The last three don’t seem to be as good though they need more time for sure. I want him to draft a high end offensive forward. No more two way, high IQ, high character guys with high floors and low ceilings.
Or maybe that’s the strategy as they’ve not done very well in 2nd round and beyond and must have the 1st round make it so they are more likely to make the safer pick?
Or maybe that’s the strategy as they’ve not done very well in 2nd round and beyond and must have the 1st round make it so they are more likely to make the safer pick?
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Another breakdown on Viktor Eklund. There’s some Lucas Raymond in his game. I appreciate how scrappy he is and that he gives it his all every shift. If he adds 20lbs of muscle over the next few years he’s going to be an effective NHLer in the top 6.
Frondell is an Anton Lundell 2.0 to me. I like him the more I see him but I don’t love him as our choice, especially with how Kasper and Danielson are both coming along. He won rookie of the year in the second tier Swedish league but Frondell needs to thank Eklund for it because his scoring really took off when paired with Eklund.
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So, in 2022, 23 and 24 which picks AFTER Detroit are better than Detroit’s players in the 1st? Which picks after 8, 9, 17 and 15 in those years are doing better than who Detroit chose, and are playing a more important role for their team aside from maybe Hage at UM?
Marco Kasper has been a top 3 or 4 rookie in the league since January 1.
Nate Danielson has been on fire the last month on, if memory is correct, the lowest scoring team to qualify for the AHL playoffs.
ASP has won best defenseman in the WJC u20 TWICE and was the top U21 player in the SHL
Trey Augustine (2nd rounder, I know) is a top 3 goalie prospect (IMO, better than Cossa)and won back to back gold for team USA.
MBN carried his team in the postseason last year and was a beast in the postseason this year.
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I am usually not this blunt with my red and white brethren, but this is the dumbest thing I've read in these parts, since I blocked ShanahanMan.
There is nothing to add.
Islanders outplayed flyers and basically doubled shots and blew a 2-1 3rd period lead. Amazing
And jinxed it cause islanders tied it with the open net lmao nice
Screwed my ticket cause needed regulation win but I'll take it haha
And jinxed it cause islanders tied it with the open net lmao nice
Screwed my ticket cause needed regulation win but I'll take it haha
I said the last three years of 1st round draft picks don’t seem to be as good as the first three years. Are you suggesting Kasper, Danielson, ASP, and MBN will be better than Raymond, Seider, Edvinson, and Cossa?
I think drafting pretty much just Augustine in the 2nd round or beyond is proof they haven’t drafted AS well as they could have in those later rounds. They did get some decent depth pieces there though.
Again, you think saying Kasper, Danielson, ASP, and MBN are not as good as the first three years of 1st round is dumb?
I would have liked Zach Benson at least.
Then again, the wings win meaningless games in a couple of those season to prevent them from getting a higher pick and the likely better player. If you think Kasper, Danielson, and MBN are the solution, good luck with that. You better be drafting some superstars in the later rounds. Or signing/trading for them. I do like ASP though.
Kasper had made a pretty good argument the last few months and ASP doesn't look like a slouch. Nate's also been upping his game in GR. Not sure how much I'd bet against them at this point, or that the difference could end up being enough to split hairs over.
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Picks 6, 4 and 6 being better than picks 8, 9 and 17? Color me shocked.
Also why is Benson worshiped here? He had 30 points last year and 28 points this year. It’s not like he’s lighting the world on fire. Danielson could have scored that this season in Detroit.
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He's 6'1" 200 pounds, he's already bigger than Kronwall ever was. He's got enough size anyways that his mean streak can definitely translate to the next level.
I would hope for a little bit more of someone that can score depending where they pick, but I wouldn't hate Aitcheson, they actually need dmen a bit
Yeah if we pick 12-14 and O'Brien and Eklund are presumably gone, I'd rather try to firm up LD than reach for offense.
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i wonder if lako , even though i see hes not a player seeking a physical game , can deal with heavy contact when opponants come after him ? a player with enough quick twitch muscle speed and athleticism which allows him to bite back into the hitters ? or does he get bulled around ? ive listened to some of his interveiws and see him as very with it / mentally sturdy . so if he has the physical sturdiness and competitiveness to deal with the nhl i put him on very high ceiling
then theres carbo brand of finish with wheels and ruggedness
and martin whose young and might beef up to 190lb+ becoming an excellent link in the yzer'fence as a middle 6 center to go along with kasper n dannyson . these 3 centers all being capable of playing 1C when need be = huge over the long haul every season
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