Speculation: 2025-2026 Offseason Thread 3 -subtitle traded for a 5th round pick

[JTBF81]

Cirelli, a prospect, our 2&3 this year, next year's number 1 for Elias Pettersson. Two number ones if they retain $2 million annually of his contract.

Fire away. Tell me where this would be bad.

LeBrun thinks Canucks are willing to retain salary in an Elias Pettersson trade

<p>Under new management this summer, the Vancouver Canucks are reportedly continuing to shop some of their veteran players. On Wednesday, TSN’s Pierre LeBrun joined Oilers Now with Bob Stauffer to share the latest rumblings he’s hearing from across the NHL. Asked about the situation with Elias...

canucksarmy.com

No thanks. Cirelli has plenty of value as a 2C to Tampa, and Pettersson has plenty of question marks to give up all of that.

 

[RSchmitz]

Cirelli, a prospect, our 2&3 this year, next year's number 1 for Elias Pettersson. Two number ones if they retain $2 million annually of his contract.

Fire away. Tell me where this would be bad.

LeBrun thinks Canucks are willing to retain salary in an Elias Pettersson trade

<p>Under new management this summer, the Vancouver Canucks are reportedly continuing to shop some of their veteran players. On Wednesday, TSN’s Pierre LeBrun joined Oilers Now with Bob Stauffer to share the latest rumblings he’s hearing from across the NHL. Asked about the situation with Elias...

canucksarmy.com

Oh boy, where do I begin?

 

[DaBolts]

Oh boy, where do I begin?

Cirelli has lost a step.

We need center depth. Point is a December to March player who is either hurt or vanishes in April. Love the guy, but not able to survive a full season.

And defensively, there are opportunities. With the salary cap increase we can make moves.

 

[JTBF81]

Cirelli has lost a step.

We need center depth. Point is a December to March player who is either hurt or vanishes in April. Love the guy, but not able to survive a full season.

And defensively, there are opportunities. With the salary cap increase we can make moves.

Cirelli has lost a step despite having his best seasons as a member of the team the last 2-3 years, and being top 3 in Selke voting the last 2 years....but he's lost a step....hmm

 

[JTBF81]

If Tampa is going for a C, it's likely one of Larkin, Trocheck, or ROR. EP has floundered badly the last 2 years, Vancouver isn't retaining for 5 or 6 years, and he's not worth giving up quality assets to obtain.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Cirelli, a prospect, our 2&3 this year, next year's number 1 for Elias Pettersson. Two number ones if they retain $2 million annually of his contract.

Fire away. Tell me where this would be bad.

LeBrun thinks Canucks are willing to retain salary in an Elias Pettersson trade

<p>Under new management this summer, the Vancouver Canucks are reportedly continuing to shop some of their veteran players. On Wednesday, TSN’s Pierre LeBrun joined Oilers Now with Bob Stauffer to share the latest rumblings he’s hearing from across the NHL. Asked about the situation with Elias...

canucksarmy.com

You don't watch enough of the Canucks to even mention EP40. Gross.

 

[DFC]

Cirelli, a prospect, our 2&3 this year, next year's number 1 for Elias Pettersson. Two number ones if they retain $2 million annually of his contract.

Fire away. Tell me where this would be bad.

LeBrun thinks Canucks are willing to retain salary in an Elias Pettersson trade

<p>Under new management this summer, the Vancouver Canucks are reportedly continuing to shop some of their veteran players. On Wednesday, TSN’s Pierre LeBrun joined Oilers Now with Bob Stauffer to share the latest rumblings he’s hearing from across the NHL. Asked about the situation with Elias...

canucksarmy.com

Is Pettersson all that much better than Cirelli right now? Relative to the contract? I don't think we should be involved in that.

 

[RSchmitz]

Cirelli has lost a step.

We need center depth. Point is a December to March player who is either hurt or vanishes in April. Love the guy, but not able to survive a full season.

And defensively, there are opportunities. With the salary cap increase we can make moves.

Cirelli's played more games over the last two seasons than Pettersson

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Who knows what St Louis is doing, but Parayko might be available.

 

[RLP55]

I wouldn't make too much of the noise around Carlson or anyone else. We literally never do anything the insiders speculate we will. The Sergachev trade, Guentzel signing, etc were never on anyone's radar until they were done.

I'm not fully confident in JBB, but I am confident that he's going to cook up something more than signing a few UFAs and calling it an offseason.

This!

Don't recall any insiders mentioning JJ Moser.( yes acquired the year before ) Not to mention turning Howard into SOR. Or the scouts finding D'Astous.

Patience grasshoppers.

 

[JTBF81]

Who knows what St Louis is doing, but Parayko might be available.

I wonder what kind of deal that would look like, should he actually be available? No chance St. Louis lets him go for cheap.

 

[PucksInTooDeep]

I wonder what kind of deal that would look like, should he actually be available? No chance St. Louis lets him go for cheap.

The deal they accepted but Parayko didn't waive for was Mrtka and a 1st. They might take something around a 1st, Rautiainen and Goncalves or some package of futures. Sounds like they are for sure trading Kyrou and looking to move Parayko to rebuild around Thomas and Snuggerud.

 

[JTBF81]

The deal they accepted but Parayko didn't waive for was Mrtka and a 1st. They might take something around a 1st, Rautiainen and Goncalves or some package of futures. Sounds like they are for sure trading Kyrou and looking to move Parayko to rebuild around Thomas and Snuggerud.

I'm guessing Paul might need to go the other way to help make the cap work with other moves at F, but he could be moved in a separate deal. The '28 1st no doubt would be involved, maybe another pick, and a high value prospect I'd guess. I wouldn't move SOR, but Rautiainen or maybe even Geekie wouldn't necessarily be off limits.

 

[JoVel]

You don't watch enough of the Canucks to even mention EP40. Gross.

Even if we got Pettersson for free, I'm not convinced we would be a better team than before. If anyone has ever trashed a player for being too soft and afraid of playing winning hockey, this guy is at least ten times worse.

 

[LightningStrikes]

So we have $16.8M of cap space with a huge hole on RD and at least 2 open spots on F.

 

[Stelio Kontos]

Ready for the Bjorkstrand sign and trade. Complete trash. How JBB thought he and Gourde were the solution is mind boggling

 

[JoVel]

Ready for the Bjorkstrand sign and trade. Complete trash. How JBB thought he and Gourde were the solution is mind boggling

Why would anyone give assets for him?

 

[Stelio Kontos]

Why would anyone give assets for him?

let a man dream dammit. trying to cope with that abomination of a trade. Two firsts for him and gourde my god .

 

[RSchmitz]

Hoping the days of JBB dropping his pants to acquire third liners is over.

 

[ccman68]

Bjorkstrand got injured right as we got him and was never the same player. Seems weird to me to shit on him for that. Gourde took the toughest defensive assignments for us this year and deserved the Selke nomination over Cirelli. I just can’t be assed to be too mad about that trade.

Jeannot one I won’t defend, but even he had problems with injuries. And I think the whole ”we gave up an entire draft” thing was always stupid as f***. As if any of the picks other than the first rounder even mattered at all.

 

[Doctor Congo]

Bjorkstrand got injured right as we got him and was never the same player. Seems weird to me to shit on him for that. Gourde took the toughest defensive assignments for us this year and deserved the Selke nomination over Cirelli. I just can’t be assed to be too mad about that trade.

Jeannot one I won’t defend, but even he had problems with injuries. And I think the whole ”we gave up an entire draft” thing was always stupid as f***. As if any of the picks other than the first rounder even mattered at all.

I don't think it was even about his production. I refrained for easily 60 games before seriously critiquing Bjorkstrand. And it was about that time when he was straight up tripping on air and falling over on his own shots. Like you could tell Kucherov was just as frustrated with him as we were

 

[Stelio Kontos]

Bjork injury is valid & you know what I could see how the Gourde Bjork trade was decent hoping to replicate the chemistry in Seattle but they get here and it dosent work. Than I see Bjork playing like he dosent give a f*** and yanni almost gourde getting abused looking like a 10 year old out there whenever he has the puck in the playoffs and I shake my head. Hated it at the time literally wanted to throw up when I saw it

When your GM’s master plan is to reacquire players you ONCE HAD and let go for nothing than spending all your draft capital to get them back you kind of think wtf are they doing? I ask again what team in any league has brought back so many former players and had any success??

1st for Gourde..
2nd for Perry
2nd for McD

Someone please tell me

 

[RSchmitz]

Bjorkstrand got injured right as we got him and was never the same player. Seems weird to me to shit on him for that. Gourde took the toughest defensive assignments for us this year and deserved the Selke nomination over Cirelli. I just can’t be assed to be too mad about that trade.

Jeannot one I won’t defend, but even he had problems with injuries. And I think the whole ”we gave up an entire draft” thing was always stupid as f***. As if any of the picks other than the first rounder even mattered at all.

I mean, some here think the 5th for Raddysh was worth something so...The issue I have with the Bjorkstrand deal is that they paid a premium price and more in that deal, and then didn't really know what to do with him in the lineup. That is completely unacceptable, if you're going to throw two 1sts and a 2nd in a deal it has to work out. Not just part of it.

 

[RSchmitz]

Bjork injury is valid & you know what I could see how the Gourde Bjork trade was decent hoping to replicate the chemistry in Seattle but they get here and it dosent work. Than I see Bjork playing like he dosent give a f*** and yanni almost gourde getting abused looking like a 10 year old out there whenever he has the puck in the playoffs and I shake my head. Hated it at the time literally wanted to throw up when I saw it

When your GM’s master plan is to reacquire players you ONCE HAD and let go for nothing than spending all your draft capital to get them back you kind of think wtf are they doing? I ask again what team in any league has brought back so many former players and had any success??

1st for Gourde..
2nd for Perry
2nd for McD

Someone please tell me

I think any evidence would be anecdotal at best. In theory reacquiring former players who've had success is a good thing, I like that logic over thinking you have to acquire someone new with no proven history just because it would be a retread, and if JBB is a trailblazer when it comes to that I don't mind. The question is did it work? The evidence has been less than mixed, Gourde and McDonagh have been great additions, it's difficult to grade Perry on such a small sample size. However we haven't moved once inch closer to winning a Cup, and right now that is what the grade should be based on. We didn't advance past round 1, that is absolutely a failed season.

We don't really hate the Bjorkstrand deal because of Bjorkstrand, we hate it because we still haven't progressed past round 1. The Savard deal isn't looked at in the same light exactly because of that, we ended up with a cup.

 

[RussianGuyovich]

the duality of hockey fandom is that; 1) bjork is a human being and i hope that he is ok physically and mentally and that his injury has not cost him his livelihood, and 2) holy shit get that chump off my team