You’d have 25-28 teams inquiring on him . Return would be substantial given his cap hit is reasonable.
It is a big risk trading Hellebucyk. I worry he will not sign again in Winnipeg and thus think the team needs to consider it. The return should be huge. And if Scheifele is traded as well the team has a new identity and completes a mini rebuild in one summer (assuming they are able to acquire a starting goalie of course).this was brought up in the scheifele thread, RE: trading Helle
trading helle is an interesting topic. he's a huge piece that'd probably garner a lot in a trade.
similarly to scheifele, 2 years left on his deal, will be a 31 year old UFA with some of the highest mins/shots-faced/quality shots faced in the league. he's led the league in shots-faced the past 4 seasons, and led in minutes played in 3 of the past 5.
is this team good enough in front of him to win a cup with him over the next 2 years? how does his game project over the next 2 seasons?
do we re-sign a 31 year old with such a high career work-load to a UFA deal? he's going to get 9M imo, is that a good deal for a goalie in their early 30s for another 5-6 years?.
if you think this team needs to rebuild, and that this year might be a bit of a sign of things to come for his individual play..... perhaps you entertain moving him. like i said, he'd still garner a lot i think, and the assets acquired would be a higher benefit in the long-run given the premise you do not think this team will win a cup w/ him over the next couple years (we lose with or without him).
If you think this is a cup-winning roster/system or whatever, then evidently keep him and win a cup. and risk having him walk in 2024.
When or if he gets traded and continues to down slide heavily feel free to bump this thread my friend
Your feelings toward Hellebuyck have been well documented for years. If it were up to you, he would have been run out of town long ago. That even includes his Vezina winning season...
I think ppl would only trade him if he said there is no chance he’d resign as we aren’t going to win the cup in the next 2 years so better to get something than not. If someone offers an unbeli package.
The idea of trading him had nothing to do with his play for me. It’s not what it’s about.
Except if you weren’t one who thought they would be a strong contender though. I’m still willing to give a new coaching staff a run at it but there are still some serious doubts about the roster and how much can change in the next two years.Funny how we went from a team that most of all thought would be a strong contender going into this season to a team that won't be contending for a long time and we need to sell off our core.
A lot of hasty forum analysts here.
Perhaps we overrated this team, or underrated strides other teams made. I know I was guilty a bit of not being sold on the Wild being this good for example.Funny how we went from a team that most of all thought would be a strong contender going into this season to a team that won't be contending for a long time and we need to sell off our core.
A lot of hasty forum analysts here.
You still need good to great goaltending to win in this league. I'd wager most of the top teams in the nhl have better than average goaltending. Now is that due to system with the skaters in from them or the actual individual goalie? Don't know and honestly don't care. Just want a team that goes far in the PO's no matter how.
Hellybuyck is a top 5 goalie in the NHL who is having an off year, but if the team managed to get into the playoffs he could have easliy gone on a run. My entire point is that he is having an off year were he isnt playing like a top 5 goalie, but he has not been a bad goalie this year either just an average one. The Jets need to fix a lot of other issues on this team before they should start worrying about goaltending.
I don't disagree. Im just saying I think you still need great goaltending to win the PO's. Yes the Jets need to fix alot of issues, but Helle hasn't played upto his lofty standard this year either.
Hellebuyck has actually been above average, statistically again in 2021-22, it's just that we are so used to having an elte goalie, we have lofty expectations for him. The only year Helle was truly mediocre was 2016-17. If we were to place a good defensive unit in front of him, I have no doubt he would bounce back to become one of the Vezina candidates.
I guess I needed to be more clear then, I was actually trying to make the same point as you just did. He is having an average season by his standards. This team has the talent to make the playoffs with Hellebuyck not playing up to the high level we are used to from him so there are a lot of other problems to address before even looking at goaltending as a reason why this season went off the rails.
