Suntouchable13
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Maybe it’s time to find Biggio a new home and give Schneider more burn? Or play him more in LF instead of Varsho? I think he needs more playing time.
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Honestly, at this point, KK is scaring me more than Varsho. Varsho made a good adjustment and seems to have fallen off from it. KK hasn't looked particularly good since the beginning of ST with way too much swing and miss.
Suntouchable13
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Yea, I agree. I think they have to sit someone like KK or Varsho and get DS in the lineup more. We need his power. He can hit righties too, as he has shown in AAA.
Analytics dept you know the ones to take Berrios out of a playoff game are probably saying you can't play Schneider full time as their data on a piece of paper says if he plays every 3rd Monday a day game after night game his HR to swing ration is 14 parsecs to minute which equals 1 home run. All other data point to him being as useful as Aki Berg on the top pair for the Leafs in the 90s-2000's
Just give the guy a run of games here. No reason he can't play 2b and move Biggio around the diamond. I don't get the love affair this org has for Biggio. He will never hit like his daddy. He is a utility player who should be giving regulars days off if needed.
Championship teams don't have IKF, Biggio, and Clement playing every day, and in some cases 2 of them.
Just give the guy a run of games here. No reason he can't play 2b and move Biggio around the diamond. I don't get the love affair this org has for Biggio. He will never hit like his daddy. He is a utility player who should be giving regulars days off if needed.
Championship teams don't have IKF, Biggio, and Clement playing every day, and in some cases 2 of them.
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He’s being deployed primarily against lefties despite always hitting righties better in his pro career. Plus the only bats projected to hit better than him on the team are Vladdy, Bo, Kirk, and Springer. This isn’t an analytics issue
Again, the Blue Jays have an analytics department that presents a whole heap of statistics and someone looking at those stats who doesn't understand statistics.
The reason Schneider isn't penciled in as an every day player is because he's still striking out way too much, but the struggles of others might outweigh the risk of Davis's K rate (he's current striking out 4 times out of every 9).
Biggio is far from the problem with the Jays and should arguably be playing nearly every day. You are vastly underrating his ability and value.
Having a weaker player at 3rd isn't necessarily a deal breaker, but a bopper at 3B is something that nearly everyone here wanted.
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Not a fan of Biggio but i'd be inclined to say he should play instead of KK atm.
All of the guys who are fighting for playing time have pretty significant questionmarks, and that includes Schneider. Biggio has been inconsistent the last few years, IKF has never been even a decent hitter, Schneider strikes out a ton, Clement still hasn't proven much at the MLB level... they really shouldn't just be handing the playing time to any of them. They'll all likely get more or less playing time going forward as they earn it. IKF and Biggio are also off to strong starts, so it's not like they're even a problem right now.
If it's mid May and Schneider is mashing the ball and has cut his K-rate to a reasonable level and he's still only playing half the time, I'll be very concerned.
If it's mid May and Schneider is mashing the ball and has cut his K-rate to a reasonable level and he's still only playing half the time, I'll be very concerned.
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I hated that we brought KK back. I think Varsho's D in centre outweighs a struggling bat but it doesn't if he's playing in LF. KK not looking good makes it even worse.
Of all the moves, that was the hardest one to stomach.
IKF at 7.5 is acceptable when the worst case is gold glove D with speed and some hitting and it's decent if you think there's more to his bat than what he's shown.
At 10.5M, the Jays could likely have gotten their hands on a contract or player that was redundant on their present team.
That description of IKF (gold glove D, speed, some hitting) sounds closer to the best case scenario than the worst considering the baserunning has regressed the last couple years and he's never really provided "some hitting" at any point in his career.
Suntouchable13
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I just feel like this lineup desperately needs power, so I think he should play. I bet he is in there tonight.
IKF has decent sprint speed and has been very good over the years. Saying that his baserunning has regressed ignores that the negatives to his baserunning involve other factors (such as how NYY wanted him to play). By can provide some hitting, I mean like a shade better than 2023 Espinal. Essentially, the Jays are paying 5M more to have an Espinal who has more positional versatility and who will still play good D if he becomes a backup.
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IKF I think frustrated everyone because he was kind of the same as the rest for what we had but better at 3B. KK was already the inferior CF to what we already had available internally. His defense was still good last year but it's redundant with Varsho. It is what it is but agreed that money like you said I think could have found us some pop for LF
I think everyone here wanted improvements at both positions.
I also think that most would have settled for Espinal plus 18-20M worth of outfielder.
The problem is the Jays cheaped out and now have Biggio, IFK, Schnieder, and Clement. On a decent team, there is only one of those guys and he is probably not starting. On the Jays you have 2 of them in the lineup daily and playing a position 3B where typically who have a power bat playing there.
The way Shatkins ran CLE is a shitty division that should have been a red light to the Jays to hire them. He was hired to oversee a ballpark renovation as he did in Cle the shitty part is his buddy came along to be the GM and between those 2 there isn't a smart baseball guy
Hopefully, once the ballpark renovation is done they can fire this duo as they are no longer needed and on-the-field results will matter again versus building a ballpark and running it like a KMART franchise.
The way Shatkins ran CLE is a shitty division that should have been a red light to the Jays to hire them. He was hired to oversee a ballpark renovation as he did in Cle the shitty part is his buddy came along to be the GM and between those 2 there isn't a smart baseball guy
Hopefully, once the ballpark renovation is done they can fire this duo as they are no longer needed and on-the-field results will matter again versus building a ballpark and running it like a KMART franchise.
The Jays didn't "cheap" out. The Jays have allocated payroll in an interesting way...
What teams would you consider "decent"? Because Davis Schneider played 35 games last year, and the Yankees, for example, have exactly 4 players on their roster (Torres, Judge, Soto, Berti) who had a higher fWAR than Schneider.
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