NFL: 2024 Training Camp and Preseason

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StreetHawk

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Meanwhile Raiders signed Nathan Petermann today. NFL is absolutely horrendous at talent evaluation in so many instances...
Honestly, the NFL puts so much value of NFL snaps in the regular season. Peterman has thrown all of 160 passes in 5 career starts completing 85 passes. or 82 for 155 in his 5 starts as he did some mop up duty once. For 712 yards (140 yards per game for each start) 4 TD and 13 picks.....

Nick Mullens, CJ Bethard, among others who were not 1st rounders but due to injury luck to the starter got NFL snaps, thus are always ahead of guys like a Rourke or anyone who comes from the spring leagues.
 
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Honestly, the NFL puts so much value of NFL snaps in the regular season. Peterman has thrown all of 160 passes in 5 career starts completing 85 passes. or 82 for 155 in his 5 starts as he did some mop up duty once. For 712 yards (140 yards per game for each start) 4 TD and 13 picks.....

Nick Mullens, CJ Bethard, among others who were not 1st rounders but due to injury luck to the starter got NFL snaps, thus are always ahead of guys like a Rourke or anyone who comes from the spring leagues.
Agreed. But it's just insanity to me though. No doubt Tommy DeVito is gonna ride out those 6 incredibly mediocre games he played last year to a 10 year NFL career as well. Just blows my mind how hyper fixated they get on that "experience", when it's just random chance as to who gets injured in front of you...
 

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Agreed. But it's just insanity to me though. No doubt Tommy DeVito is gonna ride out those 6 incredibly mediocre games he played last year to a 10 year NFL career as well. Just blows my mind how hyper fixated they get on that "experience", when it's just random chance as to who gets injured in front of you...
Unless you are absolutely great on the whiteboard to help the starter out, which maybe guys like Chase Daniel were, I don't see how you base QB2 or 3 on a guy with fewer than 10 starts over someone with no NFL regular season starts.

Mullens is 5-15 Beathard is 3-10 as starters. If they were 10-10 and 6-7, sure ok. But, they aren't helping your team stay afloat in the PO race if your starter is out a month and they need to play 4 games. More likely to go 1-3 over those 4 games based on their performance track record.

But, it's the starts they got while in SF. Thus, luck is always part of the equation for a non 1st round QB trying to make their way in the NFL. That and connections with the HC/OC to know their system.
 
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Peterman is one of those guys now where he knows enough people around the league that someone will vouch to bring him into camp. Not sure who it is on the Raiders, but he was there once before. Josh Johnson is in the same catergory, that dude was in it to be Baltimore's backup, and stunk up the joint, but he knows systems and playbooks, and when you've been around, that's really all what anyone wants.
 

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Peterman is one of those guys now where he knows enough people around the league that someone will vouch to bring him into camp. Not sure who it is on the Raiders, but he was there once before. Josh Johnson is in the same catergory, that dude was in it to be Baltimore's backup, and stunk up the joint, but he knows systems and playbooks, and when you've been around, that's really all what anyone wants.
It's a reality in the NFL. Which is why guys like Cam/Kap never get looked at as a backup. More talented than virtually all backups, but those guys, to quote the Rock, "Know their role". Not there to compete with the starter, but to help them via film study.
 

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Not getting in any games in your rookie sucks for a QB. Wipes out a year off the rookie deal. Making 2025 his real rookie year, with him only being much more familiar with the playbook and system through team meetings and film study. But, nothing replaces the live reps, even if it was half a season.
 

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Odd timing for Ponder given that she hosts their NFL coverage for the pre game show. We are under a month away from the kickoff. Wonder who they will move into her role.

RG3, no major loss. He was always trying to be different, which I get since if you blend in too much, you become replaceable. Reportedly, RG3 has 2 years left on his contract and has been with them for 3 years already. Sorry, but with all of the cuts ESPN has done over the past decade, either RG3 got a 5 year deal to start or he was extended once after 2 years or something. Just don't get these hiring or contract decisions ESPN makes. No reason to give a newbie to media a 5 year deal, which includes Jason Kelce. This isn't Brady here.

Have to be able to project who moves the needle and who is replaceable...
 
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