Transfer: 2024 Summer Transfer Window - Open Window Discussion

[Paulie Gualtieri]

yep, saw that earlier. Don't think that's remotely enough to get Villa to sell now (as PSR issues are cleared). Would also hurt with the homegrown & club trained numbers for Champions League.

A new bid is being prepared apparently.

 

[luiginb]

A new bid is being prepared apparently.

I don't get it, Ramsey ain't it.

 

[cgf]

Alternative zu Xavi? FC Bayern packt neuen Namen auf die Transferliste

Désiré Doué, das aufstrebende Talent von Stade Rennes, könnte schon bald ein heißes Thema in München werden.

fcbinside.de

Doue is on Bayern's list of alternatives to Simons...who seems to want to stay in Leipzig.

 

[luiginb]

Brazil's U23 Mauricio going from Internacional to Palmeiras for 8.5 mil

Camarda officially going to play with Milan's U23 this year, which is impressive for a 16 yo.

And speaking of formerly highly rated youngsters, Abel Ruiz is back in Spain for Girona, who signed him for 9 mil. He was underwhelming at best for Braga who had bought him in 2020 from Barcelona.

 

[KJS14]

It's not funny, but you are associating neferious intentions to something that was expected and makes sense. Clubs and in all sports are motivated by deadlines. And especially right now, many deals are sort of on hold because of Euros and other competitions, Gallagher as an example.

And there's nothing neferious about it, it's not even a loophole, it's just poorly structured rules. Similar to how there is nothing wrong with amortization with long-term deals or doing anything else that is legal and allowed to happen.

It was expected that those clubs would need to sell players to comply with PSR rules. Saying that it was expected they would all swap players with each other rather than sell to other clubs is you being ignorant to what happened.

Circumvention =/= illegal. Loopholes =/= illegal. It can be legal and still be BS.

However, if those clubs did collude to inflate swap transfer fees to comply with PSR, then that is against the rules. It'll just be near impossible to prove unless the club execs were morons and stated as such in emails to each other.

 

[JPBolts]

A new bid is being prepared apparently.

that's interesting. I really don't see a way that a deal for him happens this summer but who knows.

 

[Jussi]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806347818212147463

 

[JPBolts]

how much would everyone expect to sell their most promising youth prospect to a team in the same league?

 

[Savant]

But Chelsea won’t bury Ugochukwu



This would put at least five guys in front of Ugochukwu.

Also wondering if Chelsea still telling Lavia he isn’t sloppy seconds

 

[KJS14]

how much would everyone expect to sell their most promising youth prospect to a team in the same league?

Hard to say when every team's most promising youth prospect could be different levels. For Arsenal, Nwaneri is supposed to be one of the most promising youth prospects in all of England, but I somehow doubt we'd get a 20M fee for him. Maybe that's our poor track record for selling that has me feeling that way.

Bellingham went for 30M after starting 30+ games in the championship and having several clubs chasing him. That's a single data point, but I think everyone here had heard about Bellingham to a degree before he went to Dortmund. Whereas, I didn't know who Omari Kellyman was at all until he was sold for 20M to comply with PSR, and I think I have a decent grasp on some of the top prospects.

 

[cgf]

It’s not always about #s with prospects. Precociousness =/= potential

 

[JPBolts]

Well then

 

[S E P H]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806347818212147463

Bought Hojlund for 70+ million and now want to spend another 30+ million on another striker. Never change United.

 

[cgf]

Bought Hojlund for 70+ million and now want to spend another 30+ million on another striker. Never change United.

Aren’t you in favor of spending almost double that to get sesko as a Havertz backup…

 

[Savant]

Aren’t you in favor of spending almost double that to get sesko as a Havertz backup…

You know, I also kind of think Zirkzee can play with Hojlund

 

[Jussi]

Bought Hojlund for 70+ million and now want to spend another 30+ million on another striker. Never change United.

United don't have another striker and Höjlund can't play all the games as the lone striker. A new striker has always been the plan, to replace Martial.

 

[les Habs]

Chelsea have apparently triggered the Guiu buyout clause. All that remains is the medical.

In other La Masia news, Dani Rodriguez has agreed (verbally) a new deal with Barca. Apparently Spurs, Athletic Club and La Real (I think he joined Barca from La Real) were interested.

Unsurprising, Ferran Torres says he doesn’t want to leave Barca.

 

[Blender]

But Chelsea won’t bury Ugochukwu



This would put at least five guys in front of Ugochukwu.

Also wondering if Chelsea still telling Lavia he isn’t sloppy seconds

Dewsbury-Hall is an attacking player, usually as a central midfielder and sometimes an attacking midfielder. Ugochukwu is a defensive player.

The Lavia transfer never made a lick of sense, I have been saying that the entire time.

Chelsea have apparently triggered the Guiu buyout clause. All that remains is the medical.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806449866068934785

 

[Savant]

Dewsbury-Hall is an attacking player, usually as a central midfielder and sometimes an attacking midfielder. Ugochukwu is a defensive player.

The Lavia transfer never made a lick of sense, I have been saying that the entire time.

they are going to play in the same third of the field. We will see how it shakes out. If KDH is an attacking player I guess that means their new 20m toy Kellyman, who is apparently going into the first team, is about to get buried. And Chukwuemeka, and Casadei; all though other eight figure transfer fee toys. Just throwing more shit on the wall and hoping it sticks. Luckily for Chelsea eventually it will.

 

[luiginb]

Rabiot officially became a free agent, and he's strongly linked with Real

 

[Eye of Ra]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805675211309687077

 

[Blender]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806445104493957184

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806570726285013482

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806649797987676166

 

[Savant]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806649797987676166

Leicester is also a team that failed PSR. So another player swap between two teams that failed PSR on the way here.

 

[JPBolts]

Hard to say when every team's most promising youth prospect could be different levels. For Arsenal, Nwaneri is supposed to be one of the most promising youth prospects in all of England, but I somehow doubt we'd get a 20M fee for him. Maybe that's our poor track record for selling that has me feeling that way.

Bellingham went for 30M after starting 30+ games in the championship and having several clubs chasing him. That's a single data point, but I think everyone here had heard about Bellingham to a degree before he went to Dortmund. Whereas, I didn't know who Omari Kellyman was at all until he was sold for 20M to comply with PSR, and I think I have a decent grasp on some of the top prospects.

Yep, and I think that's exactly why transfer values are always subjective. how much someone is worth to a team is going to be different to how they are worth to others. I did look at Arsenal sale history and was a bit stunned, that is a terrible record. I guess that having a record of selling players for a decent amount might also weigh in on how much you are willing to sell.

Yep -- and I'd say the interesting case study comparison will be Archie Gray (if he gets sold this summer).

Leicester is also a team that failed PSR. So another player swap between two teams that failed PSR on the way here.

and 2 more teams involved in a swap deal!

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Yep, and I think that's exactly why transfer values are always subjective. how much someone is worth to a team is going to be different to how they are worth to others. I did look at Arsenal sale history and was a bit stunned, that is a terrible record. I guess that having a record of selling players for a decent amount might also weigh in on how much you are willing to sell.

Yep -- and I'd say the interesting case study comparison will be Archie Gray (if he gets sold this summer).


and 2 more teams involved in a swap deal!

Get that your post was tongue in cheek, but Flynn Downes played there on loan last season and isn’t by any measure a largely unknown academy player. Not really the same.